New 3.0 to 3.3 (GPA) Parents Thread

<p>warriorboy, if you read this article and the charts it will explain why an exact equivalent is not possible. It will show you a few different tables. Enjoy!:</p>

<p>[Admissions</a> Research: ACT-SAT Concordance - UT Austin](<a href=“http://www.utexas.edu/student/admissions/research/ACT-SATconcordance.html]Admissions”>http://www.utexas.edu/student/admissions/research/ACT-SATconcordance.html)</p>

<p>Warriorboy, go to the College Board website SAT testing section. Then select that “Score Choice” on the left hand side. If you scroll all the way to the bottom of the page, you will find a pdf file you can read, called " SAT Score Use Practices by Participating Institution". The schools are all listed alphabetically. </p>

<p>If a school says “All Scores” then they “Superscore”, they get all the test scores & pick your best ones to use for the applicant. There would be no hiding any bad scores, they get it all, regardless of how many times the test is taken. It is out of your control, so there is no “cherry picking” the test dates or Critical Reading scores or Math scores. </p>

<p>I realized that the 4 schools S was interested in, were “All Scores” schools, so there would be no hiding these scores, they would see everything-the good, the bad, the ugly! So I sent them without knowing what they would be. They turned out very well, he may just end up taking some SAT II’s & he thought he might try the ACT. </p>

<p>Two schools we have talked about are “All Scores” schools: Syracuse & Skidmore.</p>

<p>I notice on that list that some colleges, like U Maryland, say “contact institution!”</p>

<p>My D is going into her senior year with a cumulative 3.3 W, 3.2 ish UW. SAT scores were good, 1890, but decided to retake this fall because of an extremely low math score (490 but with 710 CR, 690 W). Her ACT score was also a 27. However, we have had trouble deciding which schools to apply to because her grades are all over the place. Freshman year she had a 3.0, sophmore year a 3.1, but got a 3.65 for her junior year (3.5 first semester, 3.8 second semester). She is very bright, but has had anxiety problems and frequent panic attacks (really affected her grades and test taking abilities).
At this point, we are looking at:
Colorado State (in-state and looking like the most realistic choice financially)
University of Oregon (her top choice)
Oregon State
Western Washington University
Willamette (seems like a reach, but on her schools naviance students got in with similiar GPA’s and lower test scores)
Linfield </p>

<p>Was also thinking about University of Puget Sound and Pacific U, but from stats on naviance it seemed like they would be too big of reaches and completly out of our price range (we can’t afford a private college w/o some sort of financial aid)</p>

<p>D preferably wants to stay in the west coast (either CA, OR, WA) but would consider other schools if they seemed right and would offer aid. She can deal with the cold and even considered University of Vermont, but would prefer somewhere with a mild climate. </p>

<p>Sorry for this long post, but does anybody have suggestions or feedback about the schools I brought up? I would particularly appreciate feedback about what schools to apply to given her all over the place GPA. Thanks so much in advance.</p>

<p>She’s is very likely to get into University of Oregon. They have increased their GPA requirement for guaranteed admit to 3.4 (weighted) starting Fall 2010, but they only expect about 55% of their admits to come in guaranteed. Assuming she fulfills the 16 “college prep” units, with her upwards grade trend and solid SATs she is very likely to be admitted. Check out this link for more details
[Freshman</a> Admission Information | Office of Admissions](<a href=“http://admissions.uoregon.edu/freshmen/requirements]Freshman”>Freshman Requirements | Admissions)</p>

<p>U of O is a fabulous school with a great atmosphere. Good luck to her!</p>

<p>What you consider an “all over the place” GPA I would call an impressive sharp upward trend junior year after consistent Freshman/sophomore results. Perhaps she overcame her test anxiety?</p>

<p>On that theory, although I do not know the West Coast schools you mention, she has a stronger application than you may think. If you want East School schools, she will also have geographic diversity in her favor.</p>

<p>One suggestion: if she still has significant anxiety, her first college year/exams–especially if she is far from home–might aggravate it. You mihgt wish to look into what pyschological support when needed the schools provide. Her anxiety is nothing to be ashamed of and she is to be commended for her succcess in spite of it.</p>

<p>I found the score choice info. I’m not sure if I understand it. If the school says - all scores- that means that you send all your scores??? Can you send just one? The confusing part to me is V1 and V2 - they seem the same to me…</p>

<p>I’m looking for opinions on how to judge which is the better option in applying EA/ED.
S gpa is on a steady rise and he has really found his stride in junior year. SAT/ACT scores are good even though he will retake in September/October.
He can apply to his dream school ED or apply EA to 1 safety and 3 match schools. The ED dream is one that doesn’t allow you to apply anywhere else even EA; theoretically he may have a chance at it but it is highly selective etc. His SAT/ACT are in the middle of their mid 50% and his gpa as it stands now is lower for them.
Older son didn’t apply anywhere EA/ED as he wanted his senior semester grades on his applications, so we are weighing the pros and cons of each scenario…
Thanks for any thoughts on this…</p>

<p>I went in and looked, warriorboy, & I did a little research from my D’s test scores, which she took twice & sent to 12 schools. The first test scores did not go anywhere when she took the test in December 2007. When she took it again in October 2008, the scores went to 4 schools: those 4 schools got both sets of scores automatically. These 4 schools are not on the list on that pdf file. So, assume if the schools are not on that list, it is an “all scores” school, they get all scores from all test dates automatically. </p>

<p>In looking at the other 8 schools on her list, two had “Highest Section V2” listed and those were schools that gave merit aid based on test scores & GPA. </p>

<p>In studying this sent score history of these 12 schools, both sets of scores went automatically every time: I was not allowed to specify test dates nor “cherry pick” scores from different test dates. It appears I requested scores be sent on 3 different dates & all 3 times, both sets of test scores were sent. </p>

<p>As far as the difference between V1 and V2-highest section all scores, V2 schools seem to give the merit aid based on the scores, so they want you to be aware that it is in your best interests to send those scores! </p>

<p>The Collegeboard doesn’t make it easy, do they? But I thought it would help if I went in and reviewed D’s “send score history” so we could make some sense out of this! You can always send me a PM, if this doesn’t clarify the issue!</p>

<p>SLUMOM - that did help alot. So if I send scores to Skidmore, College Board will automatically send all of my son’s scores. I won’t have the choice to send just the best. </p>

<p>I have also been wondering about the best time to apply. If I knew for sure that my son’s grades would be better during the first half of senior year then it would definitely be a good idea to wait, but some schools are more forgiving during the EA round.</p>

<p>Yes, College Board will send all of your S’s scores to Skidmore, there is no choice. </p>

<p>I suppose there are a number of ways to look at the “When” part of it. Some applicants choose to do “Early Action” & then get deferred to Regular Decision & then get denied, sometimes! I really feel that this last admissions cycle with my D, it helped her to apply Regular Decision as close as possible to the deadline. Regular Decision applicants were way down in numbers at many private schools, no doubt due to the economy. I believe I read that on CC somewhere, possibly a NYT article. We can only guess about the number of applicants & the state of the economy for February 2010!</p>

<p>"Yes, College Board will send all of your S’s scores to Skidmore, there is no choice. "</p>

<p>Actually College Board I believe is starting a new program this year where you can choose what SAT scores to send to colleges…</p>

<p>Pierre, see my post #522…</p>

<p>oh ok sorry, I didn’t read all 533 posts of this thread haha</p>

<p>Pierre, it’s a nice day, go outside!</p>

<p>First of all, let me say hello and thanks to all those who’ve posted here. My son fits this thread quite well, and I’ve found the posts here very useful and informative.</p>

<p>For what it’s worth, I’ve done a few trial runs to check out the SAT score reporting functionality. </p>

<p>One of the schools my son will be applying to is an “All Scores” school, and when I add that school to the list of score recipients, it does indeed say something to the effect that this school wants all the scores, and both of his tests (March and May of this year) are checked by default to be sent. </p>

<p>However, I was able to change the default and select only one of the two sets of scores to send. When I did that and proceeded to the next page, I got a warning saying that I might not be complying with the institution’s requirements. But I got the feeling that had I actually pulled the trigger it would in fact only have sent that date’s scores. </p>

<p>Of course, it’s possible that I would have gotten some kind of error message later, but it didn’t seem like it. I’m also not sure whether anything else would be done behind the scenes (e.g., maybe a note to the school advising that there are other scores that were not sent). And even if it’s possible, I think I’d feel funny about intentionally violating the instructions to send all scores.</p>

<p>rockymtn. Agree that the strong upward trend is a positive. </p>

<p>Think Willamette may be a real shot for your D</p>

<p>Linfield should be a lock. My D w/ similar stats was accepted w/ 11K annual merit</p>

<p>I think my S will be interested in many of the schools on your list when the time comes for him to get interested…(read “his mom thinks he should look at all of them during his Jr. year”)</p>

<p>Yes, gweeta, I got the same feeling. They warn you and then let you send what you want. I will not go against school rules (most of D’s choices allow score choice anyway) but it certainly looks doable.</p>

<p>I could see where this might backfire on you, if you use the Common Application, you are requested to put in test scores from all dates, which my D did, on both ACT & SAT. </p>

<p>Once you put those scores in on the Common Application & you have submitted one application, the boxes lock up & you can’t change them. So in other words, you can’t decide to send one set of scores to one school on the Common App and then go in and change them for the other schools. If the school’s policy is that they want “all scores” and they “superscore” (take your highest scores from all test dates) then it really is beneficial to the applicant. If admissions personnel feel the applicant is being deceptive, then it might result in a denial of admission.</p>

<p>SLUMOM, if you put in all of the dates that you took the ACT, and you took them 4 times (for example 3 times junior year, and once senior year) and you are applying to 12 schools, if you sent all scores to all 12 schools that adds up to $432 ($9 x 48 scores). Do most schools expect the student to spend $432 just to send in all scores? The schools my son is applying to said that one can send in the highest composite, but a fair number did say that if one sends in more than one seating they will superscore the ACT as well. I don’t think that if one sends in one set of scores to 2nd and 3rd tier schools they would be considered to be “deceptive” given the costs involved in sending each seating of the ACT.</p>