New Immunization Law in California

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Why are you fixed on students? What is about facility managers at the dorm (many are immigrants, without US vaccinations). These people would clean dorm rooms and lecture halls, clean bathrooms, prepare and serve food … What is about TAs? Many of them are immigrants, as well. What is about senior faculty? Older people without booster shots (and with weaker immune systems) may spread infections. What is about health care professionals?

Using reason with unreasonable people is a useless exercise. Just saying :slight_smile:

<@californiaaa smallpox vaccines are irrelevant because smallpox was eradicated from the natural world decades ago through a VACCINATION campaign. >

Exactly! Thanks!

Polio is eradicated in USA. Polio vaccination is irrelevant for US population, because there is no polio. It really doesn’t matter that polio crippled people 100 years ago.

One less “a”, same old posts…

TAs are graduate students. My daughter is currently a graduate student. To enroll in her graduate program, she had to be immunized, just as undergraduates do.

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Really? Bacteria and viruses can’t be stopped at the border? My children have to have polio vaccine because someone in Afghanistan doesn’t want to immunize his child?

Honestly, government has to have a better excuse. Infants in USA should not risk vaccine side effects because politicians are afraid to offend Afghan friends and require prove of polio immunization before issuing entrance visa into USA.

It would make sense to screen pregnant women. Much more sense. Screen all pregnant women, treat hepatitis in positive women, immunize newborns from these mothers, follow up with treatment of positive newborns.

Does it make sense?

Californiaa- the hospitals in my area do not allow volunteers (even the people who stand in the lobby and direct visitors upstairs) to show up for “work” without proof of vaccination, recent TB test, and a current flu shot (starting in October). I can assure you that all employees need proof of vaccinations.

Only public school does it? Do you think private school can’t educate “people who grow up to invent the technology”.

Give me my tax money back. My children also need education. They also want to “grow up to invent the technology”. If you do not allow my children in your schools, give me back MY money and I will find a better way to educate them.

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Hepatitis B is spread largely thorough prison population. If everyone in prison is vaccinated … how does it spread?

Gotta love it–the poster who wants to pick and choose which vaccines (s)he gives his/her children is outraged about the inconvenience caused by someone else choosing not to vaccinate. :slight_smile:

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If probability of chickenpox infection in the USA would be high, I would immunize my kids.

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Some TAs are PostDocs. They are not required to be immunized.

@blossom, Medical doctors in our area are NOT required to be vaccinated. When hospital tried to make mandatory vaccination, they got into lawsuits. Receptionists, facility managers at hospitals, etc, are never required to be vaccinated.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/ColdandFluNews/story?id=6418974

According to the most recent data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, a significant chunk of health care professionals declined to get vaccinated against the influenza virus during the 2006-07 flu season, with only about 40 percent opting for a jab.

“Why are we so focused on vaccinating newborns (sensitive subject), yet so lax on vaccinating medical professionals (which would make bigger impact on herd immunity than newborns)?”

Since when do medical professionals not get vaccinated? Everybody in our lab has countless vaccines for the likes anthrax and B. pseudomallei. Why? Because they risk their lives every day to develop vaccines and treatments to keep you and your kids safe, as well as everybody else around you (not that you care about them though). Do you think those researching ebola care only about their kid? The “vaccination lobby” that you’re denigrating certainly has better character than you.
“Because adults would not allow government to vaccinate them” and here lies the problem; people paranoid that somehow the government is out to get them. We aren’t. This is the mentality of countries in the Middle East, Africa, etc.- that vaccines are a western conspiracy. I’m sure you can guess what the numbers of measles/mumps/essentially everything are compared to the u.s.

“Really? Bacteria and viruses can’t be stopped at the border? My children have to have polio vaccine because someone in Afghanistan doesn’t want to immunize his child?” Many diseases have long incubation times; these people will show no symptoms. Good luck picking these people out among the thousands of flights each day.

< If probability of chickenpox infection in the USA would be high, I would immunize my kids.>

Your kids could easily catch chickenpox by being around someone with an active case of shingles. Five unvaccinated kids at a Montessori school in my town recently caught chickenpox from a teacher who had just come down with shingles but was still at work.

http://www.cdc.gov/shingles/about/transmission.html

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I care about my children, not about all humans in the world. If US politicians can’t close the borders to polio …

“I care about my children, not about all humans in the world” just take a moment and image what life would be like if everybody had this mentality.

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Check vaccine titers BEFORE you issue visa. Give visa only to immunized individuals in endemic countries. Simple solution.

Yet, nobody bothers to immunize adult health care providers. Isn’t it hypocritical?