New to the U.S.? What Surprised You the Most?

<p>This thread has been hilarious! Here are some observations…</p>

<p>Ways in which Americans surprised me:</p>

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<li><p>they are incredibly defensive. As we have seen on this thread, if you dare to suggest that the USA is not #1, and the best country in the world, and not an incredibly benevolent friend to all mankind, prepare to get jumped on.</p></li>
<li><p>they are oddly obsessed with blood/ethnic purity. People will talk about being ‘100% Irish’ or whatever. Creepy.</p></li>
<li><p>America is really, really shabby. Americans often assume that America is ‘the best in the world’, and that might have been true 50 years ago, but these days the roads, airports, trains, internet and mobile phones are all visibly falling apart. I thought it would be more modern and high-tech, but the country is still dependent on paper cheques, which is laughable.</p></li>
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<p>On the other hand:</p>

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<li><p>the Americans I meet are far from ignorant about the outside world. To be honest I think ignorance of foreign countries is a global thing.</p></li>
<li><p>the standard of living is very high – people seem to have a lot of disposable income.</p></li>
<li><p>the girls are easy!</p></li>
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<p>keepittoyourself</p>

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<li>they are oddly obsessed with blood/ethnic purity. People will talk about being ‘100% Irish’ or whatever. Creepy. </li>
</ul>

<p>haha so true. I think this has more to do with the fact that they (americans) lack a uniform ethnic heritage or ethnic identity since americans are a hodge podge of different people. So they try to ally themselves to one form of culture.</p>

<p>“they are incredibly defensive. As we have seen on this thread, if you dare to suggest that the USA is not #1, and the best country in the world, and not an incredibly benevolent friend to all mankind, prepare to get jumped on.”</p>

<p>Honestly, I really don’t think we are defensive. (Contraditictive to say that lol!). I really only back up America when it comes to values, principles and the military. Tell us we aren’t number one in technology and education. I agree with you. Nothing to defend there.</p>

<p>“they are oddly obsessed with blood/ethnic purity. People will talk about being ‘100% Irish’ or whatever. Creepy.”
Agree with the idea here. Obsessed would be a bit to far. But people love talking about their heritage.</p>

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  • America is really, really shabby. Americans often assume that America is ‘the best in the world’, and that might have been true 50 years ago, but these days the roads, airports, trains, internet and mobile phones are all visibly falling apart. I thought it would be more modern and high-tech, but the country is still dependent on paper cheques, which is laughable."
    Agree. </p>

<p>“the Americans I meet are far from ignorant about the outside world. To be honest I think ignorance of foreign countries is a global thing.”
Agree. Quick story. I actually had the opposite on UK kids. After speaking with a few UK kids, not one of them could name a US state. Just an observation. I think people over rate the ignorance of Americans.</p>

<p>" the standard of living is very high – people seem to have a lot of disposable income."
Agree. Especially compared to countries towards the south of us.</p>

<p>“the girls are easy!”
Not really a fair statement to make. Foreign girls are in love with American guys. So foreign girls are pretty easy as well. </p>

<p>My overall observation on this thread…people are basing their opinions of America off of two things.</p>

<p>One- The university they attended here. Honestly, university and regular life in America are two different things. X University does not accurately depict America. I wouldn’t go to insert some UK uni and say everyone from the UK is arrogant because that’s what I saw at X uni.</p>

<p>Two- Coming in with a completely different idea of what the US actually is. It’s probably overhyped overseas. Same goes for the opinion of US students towards other countries. One quick stereyotype off the top of my head might be thinking that everyone in the UK is exteremly formal and proper. Then when you get there you see crime, mugging, poverty, etc. It all comes down to expectations. If you expected a Ferrari and in reality you get a Ford…your opinion would be different.</p>

<p>“America is really, really shabby. Americans often assume that America is ‘the best in the world’, and that might have been true 50 years ago, but these days the roads, airports, trains, internet and mobile phones are all visibly falling apart. I thought it would be more modern and high-tech, but the country is still dependent on paper cheques, which is laughable.”</p>

<p>Very true of large swaths of the United States. The only thing I found surprising about this observation was that you believed America was primarily modern and high tech before you got here. Where did you get that idea? Hollywood? Dubai we are not.</p>

<p>Not a student atm but one thing you all will realize is that NY or LA or Chicago is not really what the US is like. They are global cities and unrepresentative of the majority of the US landmass.</p>

<p>Esp NY and LA, in outlook, tolerance, diversity ect they are like European cities.</p>

<p>British candy is of much, much better quality. </p>

<p>If you like cricket, time in America can be tough. :)</p>

<p>That said, I deeply like the US. Hope to fly out in March.</p>

<p>Re: Post #61: “- they are oddly obsessed with blood/ethnic purity. People will talk about being ‘100% Irish’ or whatever. Creepy.”</p>

<p>The concept of “blood/ethnic purity” is a foreign concept in American culture. If you understand phrases like “100% Irish” in terms of that concept, then perhaps you are understanding it in terms derived from certain forms of European nationalism, but missing its meaning in American culture. In American culture, it simply derives from people wanting to know their roots and perhaps having some pride in the struggles and achievements of their ancestors who emigrated to America. </p>

<p>The great achievement of America is that anyone can become an American. At the same time, they can maintain elements of their ethnic heritage. I don’t believe this is true of European societies to the same extent. Anyone cannot just become French or German or Italian or English.</p>

<p>Re: Post #63: “Honestly, I really don’t think we are defensive. (Contraditictive to say that lol!). I really only back up America when it comes to values, principles and the military. Tell us we aren’t number one in technology and education. I agree with you. Nothing to defend there.”</p>

<p>I don’t think it’s defensive to “back up” the U.S. (on being #1) when it comes to values and principles. I think it’s outright arrogance. Values and principles are partly cultural constructs that differs in disparate societies due to historical, geographical or anthropological factors. To impose a hierarchy on values and principles (that “mine is better than yours”) reeks of cultural imperialism.</p>

<p>This ties in somehow into my earlier point on how the U.S. does a lot to project an ideal image of themselves, while reality presents itself as quite contradictory. But I’m too tired to formulate the argument cohesively…</p>

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<p>This is pure ignorance. You should watch the British version of the show ‘who do you think you are’ sometime.</p>

<p>Did you know French President Sarkozy is the child of Hungarians?</p>

<p>keepittoyourself</p>

<p>^ Think so? Comparing the US to Europe, I think there’s a good deal of truth to what I stated.</p>

<p>I’m not familiar with the British version of “who do you think you are”. What is it?</p>

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<p>You are talking of the UK- which is slightly diverse compared to other european countries. Pick Sweden for example- search on their census data forms and see if they have an entry for swedish-asian or swedish-african.</p>

<p>The US is unique in that its a melting pot of cultures (debatable but a good assumption). For example, there is no true American food per se, but one gotten from other countries. The cultural identity is derived more from patriotism (there goes the veterans) than the ethnic/nationalistic drive that is common in more homogeneous countries. A lot of the people lack some form of cultural identity and would try and identify with their roots. You are going to hear people say i am part german and part italian. I am part scottish and part french kind of thing especially in college.</p>

<p>of course such luxury is allowed to Caucasian Americans lol</p>

<p>"One- The university they attended here. Honestly, university and regular life in America are two different things. X University does not accurately depict America. I wouldn’t go to insert some UK uni and say everyone from the UK is arrogant because that’s what I saw at X uni. "</p>

<p>I 100% concur. Campus in the US is a bubble and IS VERY VERY Different from OUTSIDE. </p>

<p>“Agree. Quick story. I actually had the opposite on UK kids. After speaking with a few UK kids, not one of them could name a US state. Just an observation. I think people over rate the ignorance of Americans.”</p>

<p>Most europeans/tourists who have been to the US never go past miami, florida or new york. At the worst chicago, DC and they go as tourists. Its very hard though to go around. There is nothing much to see after maybe 4-6 cities in the US. So this kind of makes sense.</p>

<p>I think the American ignorance stereotype comes from an inferiority complex on the part of the perpetrators IMO.</p>

<p>I have visited over 30 US states, so I’m not some ignorant person who have never gone past the east coast. But it must be nice to dismiss other people’s opinions like that!</p>

<p>Some more observations about America:</p>

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<li><p>it’s not as big as it thinks it is. Americans always go on and on about how big the country is, especially compared to European countries. But I have never really noticed this: the really, really big countries are Canada and Russia. Alaska is also huge. But the US is about twice the size of the EU – a lot bigger, sure, but hardly a different world. It is true that Americans are more willing to drive long distances, but I suspect that has to do with extremely cheap gas.</p></li>
<li><p>the imperialism. America is an empire, at least in many ways: it has troops all over the globe enforcing its will on foreign countries. Fine. But the interesting thing about it is that this goes completely unquestioned/unadmitted by most Americans. About Afghanistan for example, all the talk is about whether the mission will succeed or fail, and not about whether foreign troops have any business being there in the first place. </p></li>
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<p>Similarly about Iran: Americans often debate ‘what’s to be done about Iran’… but as far as I can tell Iran’s main crime has been to have oil and not to do what the west tells it. Did you know Iran is the only major oil-producing nation in the middle east that is not full of American troops? At least the French/British/Russians were honest about having empires. Americans call it ‘manifest destiny’ and then ‘global war on terror’.</p>

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<li>the glorification of military power. Unlike someone above, I don’t think that US troops are ‘murderers’ in general, though it is undoubted that large numbers of troops of all countries involved committed war crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan. But it is noticeable that Americans put so much stock in the country’s military superiority – I have heard France dismissed as ‘not relevant’, for example, purely on military grounds, as if this is the only thing that matters.</li>
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<p>Ironically though, America is doing really badly militarily recently. Hard to see Iraq and Afghanistan as anything other than defeats, if you look at the objectives they went in with.</p>

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<li>insularity, not ignorance. As I said above, I don’t think Americans are particularly ignorant. (The inability to find major countries on maps is striking, though). But news broadcasts are only ever about (1) things in the USA, and (2) things abroad that concern the USA. You never see things reported that don’t concern the USA (like the commonwealth games fiasco).</li>
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<p>keepittoyourself</p>

<p>Changing gears: advertisement is unexpectedly different in the US. TV commercials refer to competitor’s products (unheard of in Germany) and there’s a lot of emphasis on discounts: sales, customer rewards cards, coupons, a good-student discount on car insurance, etc. </p>

<p>I second being surprised by the prevalence of paper checks.</p>

<p>Please explain what’s laughable about paper checks. How do people in the rest of the world exchange money between one another? (Person to person, not at a store, etc.) Or make gifts to charity? Especially large sums of money, like when cash would be impractical. </p>

<p>I know and understand that plastic is the most convenient way to use money. It’s how I complete 99% of my transactions. But, my babysitter/snow plower/Girl Scout troop don’t accept VISA. What’s the alternative to paying them with a paper check?</p>

<p>News broadcast is like that in Australia too. It’s the same everywhere i presume.</p>

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Wire transfers (done electronically or on paper) seem to be the most common form of non-cash payment in Europe. Can’t speak for the rest of the world.</p>

<p>I was surprised about the TV too. Cable tv cost $60 a month and the commercials were still SOOO long, and the channels weren’t that great either.
Oh yeah and bashing other companies on advertisements is pretty funny.</p>

<p>For large money transfer in my country we usually go to a bank or post office to make a check (cashiers check i think?).
We don’t use those checkbooks that you just need to write and sign.</p>

<p>Not a lot of kinds of candies. I expected to see those old wonka candies but I thought there would be much much more.</p>

<p>I don’t like it when I have to swipe my credit card myself (instead of the cashier)</p>

<p>phone service was confusing at first, very expensive if you pay for the big companies (verizon, att, etc)</p>

<p>(intl student form Japan)</p>

<p>^ lol if you’re from japan, i think the first thing you’ll really take note of is the speed (or lack of) of broadband internet in the US. its frustratingly slow.</p>