New UVA Office of Admission website

<p>in <a href="http://www.virginia.edu/undergradadmission/admission.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.virginia.edu/undergradadmission/admission.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>OCT Last possible SAT I and ACT testing dates for candidates applying under the Early Decision Plan.</p>

<p>SAT II should b added :)</p>

<p>or do they offer satii in october?, correct me if im wrong</p>

<p>On this page, "Offsite" is listed next to a number of links. I don't think including the word "Offsite" is necessary. It looks clunky.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.virginia.edu/undergradadmission/profile.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.virginia.edu/undergradadmission/profile.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>SAT II does not need to be added. They aren't required for admissions.</p>

<p>I think the term 'academical village' seems to be a little outdated from when it was used in Jefferson's time. UVA is much more than just an 'academical village' today and I don't think we should pretend to be one.</p>

<p>Melli, TJ is one of the few most important figures in American history. Lots of other universities would love to be able to say that about their founders.</p>

<p>Melli: ever been to an ivy league school presentation? they mention the term "ivy league" as much as we mention Jefferson. So what's more relevent for college presentations, bragging about your founder or bragging about your athletic conference? </p>

<p>The new site is amazing, I wish I had the opportunity to use it when I applied. Beautiful flash. I love the picture of the guy who is cheering at football games, with his face painted blue and orange.</p>

<p>One suggestion, Dean J: Here's deal with UVa pictures. We place a great emphasis on the beauty of the Lawn and kinda ignore old dorms/new dorms/hereford. However, we should have some pictures of the engineering buildings (Some of them looks good), and where are the LIBRARIES?! (besides Rotunda ;) ) Alderman looks beautiful too! Newcomb looks gorgous as well, and the lake! Also, I rarely see pictures of Brown College, which is the first dorm building UVa built. It has a rich history and many non-Brownies have told me Brown College's architecture/design is fabulous.</p>

<p>Melli, the sentence "Study with the best scholars at Thomas Jefferson's academical village" is vague, cheezy and misleading. Best scholars where? In the 22904 area code? In the world? Huh? Hell, 98% of your studying won't even be in the academical village.</p>

<p>Untilted, Hereford is not shown and should not be shown for a reason: it sucks!</p>

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I think Thomas Jefferson founded UVA in 1819, not 1820.

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1819 is the only date I've ever heard. I'll report that one to the web people. :)
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does anyone know when the online application is available?

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I just spent the morning doing some development on it. We're almost there. I'm still aiming for August 15th, but I'd rather you work on the essays (which are posted on the website) than worry about filling out forms at this point.
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I have the updated version of flash yet the site is claiming that I need to upgrade my version so I reinstalled Flash but I'm sitll getting the "please upgrade" message.

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I had to try a few times before my Flash update "took". I'll find an open source person to test the site, though, in case we have a problem there.
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On this page, "Offsite" is listed next to a number of links. I don't think including the word "Offsite" is necessary. It looks clunky.

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That might be something that is dictacted by our Web Communication people at the University. I agree that it looks odd when it's all over a page. I could see using it for sites that are not part of the UVA's site, though. I'll ask about that.</p>

<p>Regarding the pictures, we have an image library and we might try to rotate what you see. I hope that we'll always have a few of those great lawn shots, but that we'll also show some cool things are tucked away in places prospective students won't see on their tours.</p>

<p>Regarding the "big themes" of TJ and the Academical Village (and the whole Ivy League thing, for that matter), a lot of the emphasis might be due to branding initiatives. This is a hot topic at colleges and universities these days. We want to distinguish ourselves. To be fair, our info sessions don't focus on the history of UVA. We leave that to the U-Guides who give those historic tours and to the publications.</p>

<p>I respect the reverence that the University has for TJ, but as an incoming transfer...it's a little creepy. During my summer session course it seemed like every other comment during discussions was about how "Thomas Jefferson once said..." or "In 1822, Thomas Jefferson..." or "I think Thomas Jefferson would..." The professor would even preface questions with TJ quotes, TJ life anecdotes, and would have little mini quizzes on TJ factoids. "Does anyone remember what Thomas Jefferson said about perennialism?" "If Thomas Jefferson were here, what do YOU think his stance on affirmative action would be?" Or, "In what year did Thomas Jefferson do such-and-such?"</p>

<p>The scariest thing is...everyone seemed to know all of the answers. I was like, uhhh what? Is "The Life and Times of Thomas Jefferson" a required course here that I've missed, or...what?</p>

<p>Thank you pizzelle, that's what I meant. I know, Thomas Jefferson is a pivotal figure not only in American history but in the University. I wasn't downplaying TJ's impact and importance, but really, it just gets.. blah sometimes. The people at my orientation said stuff that was a lot meaner than "Great, TJ again, what a big surprise!" They also said similiar stuff regarding the honor code. Alright, don't kill the messenger now.</p>

<p>Untilted: I have actually, albeit only two Ivies, and those were so boring that I can't even remember what was said. Lol.</p>

<p>Pizelle, hahaha, yeah, we do tend to make TJ out to be some demi-god. Don't start me on the TJ quotes. LOL! </p>

<p>Melli, it's hard to extricate TJ from UVA. His fingerprints are everywhere - and not only in his usage of Greco-Roman architecture (by way of Palladio.) It was he who wanted to create an "academical village" where professors and students would live and learn together and build strong intellectual relationships. That's why as most public schools have become heavily research-oriented to the demise of good student-teacher interaction, UVA has remained solidly focused on undergraduate education. The fact that you can take any course you want stems from TJ too. UVA is the first university to allow students to take any class in a number of "new" fields instead of following a prescribed list of classes only in Religion, Law, and Philosophy. His ideas of what a university should be like has greatly influenced higher education in the US. </p>

<p>One thing I've been wanting to see for some time now is to have more anecdotes/snippets/examples of alums and students along with their accomplishments featured in our sites/brochures. I think highlighting TJ is great and all, but if UVA is trying to sell how the University is "transformative" then we should show examples from current students and alumni that point to that. Why not show testimonials/examples from alums like the present/former presidents of CNet, Pepsi, MasterCard, American Stock Exchange, and Tudor Investments, or Olympic gold medalist Paul Ereng from Kenya or actors Tina Fey and Ryan McKenzie or journalists Katie Couric, Bob Sellers, Brit Hume, Sarah James, and Fred Barnes or movie producers/directors Andrew Scheinman, Glen Williamson, Tom Shadyac, and Paul J. Witt or National Review Editor-in-Chief Richard Lowry. These are the beneficiaries of a UVA education, who have become leaders in their fields.</p>

<p>I think the TJ stuff can be a bit overwhelming at time, but people should take into account just how revolutionary his ideas were and how brilliantly done the University was in nearly every way. Talk to an architectural historian about the significance of the entire old grounds area in the world of architecture. Then consider that, from conception to completion, the University took less than a decade to complete. Compare that to the South Lawn project, which will take three decades to complete and will most likely only diminish the impact of old grounds.</p>

<p>I'm not a UVA person but I've always liked TJ's college and I occasionally like to browse the UVA forum at CC. Your admissions website is excellent - it loads quickly, has a sleek and well-organized appearance, and the graphics are crisp and inviting. I think it also makes the important information easily available to an applicant who might not be sure where to start.</p>

<p>As a general concept, I join the earlier commenter who suggested you provide more transparency by making available as much raw data as possible. I think in the long run UVA (and all colleges) would benefit from posting this data so your applicants can make better decisions about fit.</p>

<p>Dean J, congratulations on a job well done.</p>

<p>Dean J,</p>

<p>One thing I've always found strange is the online Prospectus. When you click on the Related Links, the pages include all these quotes from people but NO PICTURES what so ever. Even in the section titled "Jefferson's Lawn: A Room with a Spectacular View" with sub-sections highlighting "Living on the Lawn" and being "More than a Pretty Picture", there are no visuals to be seen. I think it would be a good idea to include the photos from the actual hardcopy of the Prospectus that you guys mail out and give away at Peabody.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.virginia.edu/undergradadmission/prospectus.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.virginia.edu/undergradadmission/prospectus.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I think it would be a good idea to send out some students to take, like, 200 pictures from around grounds and then link them somewhere in plain sight. When I was looking at schools I ALWAYS wanted more pictures.</p>

<p>That's an excellent idea, Cavalier302.</p>

<p>The students could even write their own captions. It would definitely set UVA apart.</p>

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I think it would be a good idea to include the photos from the actual hardcopy of the Prospectus that you guys mail out and give away at Peabody.

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There are some issues with getting the entire book as it exists on the website. It could happen with future versions. For now, the full prospectus is available in PDF format.</p>

<p>Perhaps I missed it in my quick overview of the new website, but I can't figure out who my admissions counselor will be. Dean J, could you please tell me who the counselor for Corpus Christi, TX is? Thanks!</p>

<p>I would think that would be something that you would want to have available on the front page. </p>

<p>Otherwise, the site looks great! 100 times better than the old site.</p>

<p>Dean J,</p>

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There are some issues with getting the entire book as it exists on the website. It could happen with future versions. For now, the full prospectus is available in PDF format.

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<p>Thanks for the explanation, but can some pics be added even if not all of them? The "Related Links" are very blah without any visuals. Since you guys have worked so hard to update the entire site, I think it would be cool to also update those links with some photos.</p>

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Thanks for the explanation, but can some pics be added even if not all of them?

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Thanks for considering that an explanation. I thought it was my way of avoiding describing the entire situation. :) I don't see it happening at this point, but who knows...
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Perhaps I missed it in my quick overview of the new website, but I can't figure out who my admissions counselor will be. Dean J, could you please tell me who the counselor for Corpus Christi, TX is? Thanks!

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We don't read by territory at UVA. What's more, your application will be read by at least two different people (and at most, the entire office). </p>

<p>By the way, about those pictures by current students, we're working on something that I think is even better. :)</p>

<p>Dean J, what's the quickest an application will be read? I'm talking at both extreme - the future Echols Scholar with the 4.0/1580 and the stoner with the 2.8/980.</p>