Newer Violist Searching For Schools

I’m a newer viola student hoping to major in music education or music therapy at an undergraduate level. More details below about my level of playing and musical history, but I’m hoping for some second opinions about choosing a school and degree options. I would love college recommendations for colleges with music departments that a new student could aim for getting into, suggestions about how to find schools to look into, and advice in general for a student in my position.

Summary of the lengthy paragraph below: I have had some musical experience in high school, but only a bit. I really only started to focus on music in January after taking time to really solidify an of the life I want to live. I’m a music major at a community college and taking private lessons with a viola teacher and piano teacher. I progressed through the second half and entire third viola Suzuki books during these past five or so months, and my piano teacher has greatly improved my playing, and I believe I’ll continue to track at a faster rate of growth for at least this next year.

Here’s more information:
I played violin from ages 7-11 under the Suzuki method, and after my first few years started to loathe the instrument and practicing. I stopped music for a couple of years, and then at 13, joined a choir at a home school fine arts co-op, and spent a year surrounded by dedicated fine arts students, who loved music. I was entranced by people who found music fun, worked hard to accomplish goals, and I was influenced to take voice lessons and sang in two home school choirs (one with about 20 kids, the other with about 60), as well as my church choir. My sophomore year of high school I started to play the piano, which I loved. I barely read sheet music, but quickly learned. Junior year I started a music theory course, and at this point realized how much time and energy I dedicated to musical pursuits and how I was motivated and happy learning music. I contemplated if I would want to engage in a future career path with music, and if it would even be possible as I am not extremely talented and don’t have an extensive musical background from an early age. I decided I wanted to learn a stringed instrument again, whether or not I had a future in music, and with the advice of my former violin teacher, started to learn the viola. I played in a chamber music ensemble and symphonic orchestra (as first viola in both, only because there wasn’t any other viola students…). After a heavy academic focused senior year, I wasn’t much further on in my studies and discouraged by this, I explored internships in communication and took some psychology classes, to see how I liked my other options. None of these engaged me the way music did, but I went through this toxic mental loop wondering how a beginner student could possible keep up with equipped and confident college musicians. For a couple of months, I thought I might have to simply pursue a degree in psychology or communications, and minor in music, if even that. However, at this point I went on a six month internship, and the people I worked with and the experiences I had made me realize that my mentality was the only thing stopping me from pursuing a future degree in music. This past winter, I was accepted into my community college music program, and started taking private lessons for viola and piano, with viola as my primary instrument, practicing viola about 2-3 hours everyday, and about an hour of piano. I continued viola under the Suzuki method, and went through the second half of book two and all of book three in about five months. Only about 14 songs, but the method is extensive and I do believe my playing progressed very well given that I only spent a couple hours a day practicing and skill wise I learned a lot and believe that I will continue to progress quickly. I’m beginning concertos now, thinking that I will audition for colleges this upcoming year, to start in Fall 2019. I’ll be going in as a transfer student, with all my Gen Eds completed (I did dual credit classes in high school), and about a year and a half of music classes from my community college program, and a lot of real world experience (Music Together Training, some Suzuki teacher training, I’ve taught private piano lessons, lots of different music classes, etc…). I’ve had some conversations with my teachers about colleges, and because I’d like to pursue music education, possibly taking some music therapy classes with a minor in psych both of my teachers recommended a university with a music department, definitely not a conservatory, somewhere that will help bring me up to a level where I could get my masters from a more intensive music school.

Academically, I’ve done well with my college learning (currently 71 credits in many different subjects, only one B out of those classes, so almost a perfect 4.0), a decent high school transcript, and a so-so SAT score (1190, on the new SATs), which I might retake and try to bump up. I’m a dedicated student, have lots of extracurriculars and volunteer experiences, and while I’m not Julliard material, I do think I have a lot to bring to a school and I’m confident that there are schools out there that I can learn well at and would want me as a student.

So, my question is, with the level I’m playing at and my goals, does anyone have recommendations for schools to look into or resources to utilize to find schools? I know I’m behind on prepping audition pieces, visiting schools, and need to take lessons with my top schools primary viola teacher to see if I like them. I’m overwhelmed by all the options, and also trying to find the best school that will support my level of learning and help me grow as a newer student. From those who were or are in the same shoes as me, or any who can give advice, how can I find schools? Any recommendations for specific schools to look into? So far, I’ve looked at some in-state schools, for myself (NJ), including Montclair, The College of New Jersey, and Rutgers. I also looked at Liberty University in VA (I took some classes online in high school, and enjoyed their program). I have some criteria for schools (a good viola program, offers music education, offers psychology courses, encourages real work application, has small classes for the most part, and preferably with tuition being under 40,000 a year). I’m also open to nontraditional ways to achieve what I want to do, especially considering that a college might not be the right place for me at the moment. I’m In the end, the important thing is that at the end of my time learning I can start teaching music, help others use music to express themselves, and have a supportive school that will help me grow, and hopefully be able to begin to do that in a few years from now (learning is a constant process, and part of the reason I choose music. I don’t think I will be a master in three years, or a decade, or ever. I love the way there is always something new to learn, rules to be understood, made, and broken, the give and take of concepts from fellow musicians, and how tangible and mysterious it is all at the same time).

I know this was a novel and a half, so whether you skimmed and got the important parts or read all the way through, I admire your curiosity, dedication, and I’m glad you had the time to do so, and appreciate all advice and encouragement anyone has to share, whether related to specific schools or simply for me as a music student.

First of all, I suggest you read the Double Degree Dilemma posted closer to the top of this forum, which outlines the different ways to study music, using hypothetical individuals. See which one you most identify with.

You say you don’t want to go to a conservatory, yet are preparing for auditions and stressing about the level of your playing. This may be misguided. It would seem to me that your best option is to apply to a college or university with a non-audition BA program in music (most BA programs do not have auditions for admission but you audition for extracurricular ensembles once there, in the fall).

A BA program will be 1/4-1/3 classes in music and a BM program (conservatory or school of music) will be 2/3-3/4 classes in music. BM programs have auditions for admission. I would also suggest that you might even want to avoid schools that have BM programs if you do a BA because sometimes (not always) the best opportunities there go to the BM students.

Many many schools have excellent music major programs for a BA degree, with or without a performance component in the classroom, but offer lessons for credit and many excellent extracurricular performance opportunities. I react to your post in favor of this option. For admission, you don’t have to submit anything regarding music, just do the common application and essays- but you do have the option of submitting a music supplement, with music resume, recording of playing, and letters of recommendation from music teachers and directors.

A BA in music will include music history, theory and aural skills, composition, ethnomusicology, musicology, technology etc.

Other options are double major in a BA, or major/minor combining music and psychology for instance, or a double degree with BA and BM, which would involve auditions.

If you really want to do music education, then you do need an audition program at a school with a full BM and BME program: state universities are often good bets for that. It is good to go to the state school and get certified in the state you want to teach in. Remember that teaching in public schools, which is what music education degrees are geared toward, is just one way to teach- and also that you can focus on that in grad school and get a broader undergrad education first.

Berklee has music therapy but is a demanding conservatory. You might look at Lesley University, in Cambridge MA, which offers programs in holistic psychology and expressive arts, including music therapy.

Check out the website for Colleges that Change Lives, many of which might suit you. I really like Clark University, and people say good things about the College of Wooster for music (BA, BM, education and therapy are all offered). Bennington and Sarah Lawrence might appeal. If money is an issue, then of course a state school in your state would be an excellent choice, but many privates offer scholarships and aid.

So my personal view, again, from reading your post, is that you are hard-working person who has multiple interests who could probably thrive in a liberal arts college or university that allows you to pursue music but not in a conservatory or school of music kind of way, and allows you to also pursue psychology or communications and ideally relate all your areas of study in an interdisciplinary way and stay broad in your pursuits for as long as you can.

If you are feeling pressure to figure out your career at this point, I hope you can just follow your interests until you graduate, when you can then make decisions about work, grad school and so on. In the meantime, volunteer, intern or work in some areas like music therapy or teaching and see how you like them. And continue to practice and perform no matter where you go to school.

If you can’t get scores up, there are many top schools that are test-optional or don’t emphasize scores: http://fairtest.org/university/optional Though scores are often needed for merit scholarships.

Thank you so much, compmom! I’ve been so wrapped up on thinking about a BM, that getting a BA in music didn’t even occur to me. I’ll definitely look into all your suggestions! This is extremely helpful!

I’ll PM you.

Check this out https://lesley.edu/academics/expressive-therapies

Also check out their holistic psychology program, which is quite interesting and can be combined with expressive arts, thereby combining your apparent interests. https://lesley.edu/academics/undergraduate/holistic-psychology

Your scores and musical experience so far would make you a shoo-in for Lesley :slight_smile:

Lesley is a great idea. I remember looking into their programs for a friend who was interested in dance therapy, and they looked great. Getting an undergrad degree in music therapy and/or psychology would give you both an academic foundation and a skill-set, while buying you a couple more years to train on your instrument. At that point, if you wanted to get a music ed masters and a teaching credential, you would have more preparation for the performance audition under your belt as well as a distinctive background that could make you an attractive candidate for a grad program. (Or you could work in the music therapy field for a while, or go in a clinical-practice direction in psychology or social work, with the music therapy credential as an enhancement.) You would have no trouble finding top-notch musical training in the Boston area, if not directly through Lesley.

Are you interested in Christian schools at all? I noticed you mentioned Liberty. I was on the college search last year and was looking most seriously at Christian universities so am pretty familiar with many of the “better” (and also slightly more affordable :)) ones. I visited Gordon College in MA and loved it even though it ended up being a little too far from home. If you’re interested in Christian schools you should definitely check that one out!

Check out St Olaf if the Midwest is appealing. It could be a very good fit.

First of all, as a parent of two violists, welcome to the dark side! Suzuki book 4 is where viola really divides from violin, and once you have those Telemann concertos solid, you’ll be in good shape for more difficult rep. And your orchestral and chamber experience will be a definite plus!

If you’re looking at Christian colleges, Houghton in upstate NY has a well regarded music program.

Your understanding that this is a lifelong journey will serve you well, especially since you are changing life paths at this point. It might even be worth taking a gap year to strengthen those music skills so that your application can really reflect your strengths rather than your potential.