<p>Harvard more LAC-ish than Princeton? We all have the rights to our own opinions, but I think you will find very few people (heck, probably not even Harvard people) who would agree with you.</p>
<p>i love this....there are universities outside the U.S. and as soon as they earn recognition, people in the US think there is something wrong with the ranking system.</p>
<p>i guess if the U.S. News rankings were called the "world series of universities" and this would make a lot more sense to americans.</p>
<p>tokyo will defeat all universities for ever. i love that university so!</p>
<p>that is one of the best comments Ive ever seen on CollegeConfidential... and its ur first!!! Congrats... you def. set the bar high!!! As an international student, I consider your comment... just... just... perfect!!!</p>
<p>What a load of crap.</p>
<p>clarify please</p>
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Yes, I still dispute this underrating of Yale. Berkeley certainly enjoys a great reputation in East Asia, though it would be surprising to me if it trumped Stanford there. In the rest of the world, Yale would almost certainly be more highly regarded. In Europe people seem very familiar with the Ivy League, with the possible exceptions of Penn (name confusion) and to a lesser extent Cornell.
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<p>In Europe people have only heard of the top Ivies. Most have not heard of Columbia, Cornell, etc. Same with Asia.</p>
<p>Stanford is probably more renowned in Asia than Berkeley, but in Europe Berkeley has a great reputation due to grad programs and research. Many people say it's better than Oxford and Cambridge for example.</p>
<p>And this isn't just because I'm biased....</p>
<p>“In Europe people have only heard of the top Ivies. Most have not heard of Columbia, Cornell, etc. Same with Asia.”</p>
<p>-And yet I’d be willing to bet that most Americans couldn’t name any schools in Europe or Asia….. Even the educated people may get only one or two.</p>
<p>Considering that like 90% of the best universities in the world are in the US, I’d say the country is doing pretty good for itself…..</p>
<p>i can live with those..</p>
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And yet I’d be willing to bet that most Americans couldn’t name any schools in Europe or Asia…..
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<p>True. American universities are better. </p>
<p>The only reasons I can name the top 10 or so British unis and a few of the Asian ones are:
1) I'm 3/4 Asian so I get beaten on the head early in my life about the top Asian unis.
2) I'm an Anglophile.</p>
<p>The Chinese (Shanghai Jiao Tong) ranking seems to come closer to my personal perception of the top world universities than Newsweek's. </p>
<ol>
<li>Harvard Univ</li>
<li>Univ Cambridge (UK)</li>
<li>Stanford Univ</li>
<li>Univ California - Berkeley</li>
<li>Massachusetts Inst Tech</li>
<li>California Inst Tech</li>
<li>Columbia Univ</li>
<li>Princeton Univ
Univ Chicago</li>
<li>Oxford Univ (UK)</li>
<li>Yale Univ</li>
<li>Cornell Univ</li>
<li>Univ California - San Diego </li>
<li>Univ California - Los Angeles</li>
<li>Univ Pennsylvania</li>
<li>Univ Wisconsin - Madison</li>
<li>Univ Washington - Seattle</li>
<li>Univ California - San Francisco</li>
<li>Tokyo Univ (Japan)</li>
<li>Johns Hopkins Univ
21.Univ. Michigan-Ann Arbor </li>
<li>Kyoto Univ (Japan)</li>
<li>Imperial Coll London (UK)</li>
<li>Univ Toronto (Canada)</li>
<li>Univ Illinois - Urbana Champaign</li>
</ol>
<p>however you slice it, one thing is certain:</p>
<p>Harvard Pwns any ranking in the world</p>
<p>Need_Advice: I tend to compare Yale to Oxford in terms of having a disproportionately high number of influential politicians among its recent alumni and being stronger in the Humanities. Cambridge and Harvard on the other hand have a considerable advantage in terms of strength in the natural sciences, affiliated Nobel laureates, etc. As far as the relatively low ranking of (continental) European universities is concerned, I guess the problem is that there is really no direct equivalent of Oxbridge or the American Ivy League in continental Europe. Besides, we must also remember that most of the Nobel-level reseach that is currently done in France or Germany is actually done outside the university system in national research institutes, which impacts negatively on the rankings. Overall, I would say that university quality in Germany seems to be reasonably uniform across the country and it doesn't really matter that much where you graduate. In France on the other hand, most of the country's business and political elite tends to come from one of the highly selectively Grandes </p>
<p>From U.S. News</p>
<p>School of medicine - Research</p>
<ol>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>JHU</li>
<li>Upenn</li>
<li>UCSF
WUSTL</li>
<li>Duke</li>
<li>Stanford</li>
<li>UCLA
UM-Ann Arbor</li>
<li>UCSD</li>
</ol>
<p>Schools of Business(Graduate School)</p>
<ol>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Standford</li>
<li>Upenn</li>
<li>MIT
NWU</li>
<li>U Chicago</li>
<li>Columbia
UCB</li>
<li>UCLA</li>
<li>Duke
UM-Ann Arbor</li>
</ol>
<p>Schools of Law</p>
<ol>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>Stanford</li>
<li>Columbia
NYU</li>
<li>U Chicago</li>
<li>Upenn</li>
<li>UCB
UM-Ann Arbor
UVA</li>
<li>Duke
12 NWU
13 Cornell
15 UCLA</li>
</ol>
<p>How come from Newsweek top 20</p>
<p>UCSF #9
UM-Ann Arbor #11
UCLA #11
Upenn #13</p>
<p>UCSF ranks high in "international" rankings because it has a lot of international faculty/students.</p>
<p>For me, personally, "global" rankings have zero importance because they say nothing how well the school is recruited by employers, how strong its alumni network is, and how well it feeds into American graduate schools, which are what is actually important when comparing schools.</p>
<p>I have to agree with Aurelius. Just because a school is "global" (in the sense of having lots of international students and faculty) doesn't necessarily make the school good. You can have lots of bad international students and faculty, and that will make your school "global".</p>
<p>The "global" factor is bs. THES employs it to make British people feel better about their schools. Cambridge is the only one that might retain its ranking without the "global" factor.</p>
<p>ach of four different measures of faculty research accomplishment accounted for 20 percent of the rating:
Number of faculty receiving a Nobel Prize or the Fields Medal, the premier prize in mathematics (scores are proportionally reduced for prizes shared with researchers from other universities)
Number of papers published in Science and Nature
Number of researchers listed by Thomson Scientific (formerly ISI) among the most highly cited in their scientific academic fields over a period of 20 years
Articles in Science Citation Index Expanded, Arts and Humanities Citation Index, and double-counting of articles in the Social Science Citation Index
Two other categories received a weight of 10 percent in the Chinese rankings:
Number of alumni who won Nobel Prizes or Fields Medals
Size adjustment total of all other tallies divided by the number of faculty</p>
<p>we are the best in the world. we make processors go, we make didital cameras. my ranking system as follows:</p>
<ol>
<li>U of tokyo</li>
<li>U of tokyo</li>
<li>U of tokyo</li>
<li>U of hokaido (our rivals until death)</li>
<li>U of nagasaki</li>
<li>cambridge</li>
<li>berkrey</li>
<li>MIT</li>
<li>harvard</li>
<li>stanfard</li>
<li>columbia</li>
<li>university of toronto (my cousin there)</li>
<li>Penn</li>
<li>yale</li>
<li>princeton</li>
<li>yale</li>
<li>cornell</li>
<li>oxford</li>
</ol>
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UCSF ranks high in "international" rankings because it has a lot of international faculty/students.
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<p>Would you care to explain how having many international faculty/students would boost its rankings? Which criterion would this influence?</p>