<p>occidental means western but yeah brown is liberal and i love it that way, the growing infestation of sickly conservativism at many schools is appalling and must be quashed.... and yes I am a hippie... though a button down, short hair one</p>
<p>You go to Brown, I assume?</p>
<p>Maybe it should be quashed, but at least listen and think before you act lol</p>
<p>Thank god you shave. That grungy hippy look is so unappealing.</p>
<p>Shaving is a must (for most men). It is hard to be urbane with facial hair.</p>
<p>no, i do not go to brown</p>
<p>my main dislike of conservativism comes from bush and from living in a tiny mountain town where everyone seems to idolize god and bush. sometimes they get the 2 mixed up. The conservatives act like a gang, or at least as close to a gang as you can get in such a place. They have intimidated members of the Young Democrats club which I started by shooting out windows of people's houses, putting paint thinner on people's cars, or windshields with tire irons. They havent tried anything against me yet because they know I am not one to be easily intimidated. When members of my clubhave reported these actions to the police, they police have taken their sweet time investigating and nothing has come of it.</p>
<p>THey are adament about bush and support things he does even when they are contrary to their own beliefs. ie, they are xenophobes and abhor the guest worker program. of course, when i point this out to them, they just start yelling Dubya Dubya. other things such as bushs fiscal liberalism does not perturb them. Indeed, they all seem like programmed robots spouting the same line from the birefing memo with no original thought</p>
<p>if this is the state of most conservatives, then yes, i say that if you do not have the ability to think for yourself you should not go to college</p>
<p>Nopes soccart, I'm an RD applicant</p>
<p>Bush...what an embarrassment to our nation.</p>
<p>Our country needs some divine intervention to get back on course lol</p>
<p>Good luck, astrix :). I hope to see you next year.</p>
<p>hear hear tore...kudos</p>
<p>My grandparents voted for Bush. Luckily, they are in MA, so their vote didn't count ;)</p>
<p>You guys are probably right about Bush. I don't know how I feel about him, however, because everyone I know hates him, so my sources of information are kind of biased. I'd probably have to do more research and perhaps hear an articulate Bush supporter argue his viewpoint.</p>
<p>lol, it's so true about ma. did you vote in the last election, tore?</p>
<p>I was not old enough. I will vote for the next election though, most definitely (to show the Republican party that it has no mandate ;)).</p>
<p>I wish third parties were more popular in the US. It would make politics juicier.</p>
<p>the trend of politics is that less peple are signing up for politicalparties because the two parites have become tooo extremist</p>
<p>Bush has no viewpoint; he's a pawn. He's a walking contradiction. His main ideology is conservative, yet he wastes money like a child. He doesn't care about trashing the ocean or rivers and he is clearly unintelligent. He is always equivocating. He is simply not a good representative of our country. I cannot believe he is still President. Four more years?</p>
<p>If conservatives at least did what they said they believed in, they would not be half as bad as they are.</p>
<p>Sorry. I couldn't argue for Bush.</p>
<p>I think when I have more free time I'll try to. Just for fun.</p>
<p>i am a RD applicant from India but have been followin US politics for the past couple of years (since 9/11) and i think i find the above comments very interestin..</p>
<p>i (just me, not a representation of India or rest of the world) might agree that bush might be a bad representative of the US and that conservatives act like a gang. BUT</p>
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<li><p>isnt it surprising tht bush won the popular vote as well? Does tht mean tht yeah, bush is bad but the liberals did not have a single candidate tht was better than him?</p></li>
<li><p>some might argue tht rove rallied the rural christian votes in mid-west etc. If that is true, is it also true tht bush is a better representation of the 'inner america' that believes in the conservative philosophies more than worryin about budget deficit?</p></li>
<li><p>if education level of the voters was taken into consideration, it is interesting how liberals usually capture urban areas and predominantly highly educated centers like CA, NY etc.. But, what is also interesting is how the big wigs of these education centers, namely the wall street firms, industrial conglomerates, etc. are largely conservatives</p></li>
<li><p>God know where Iraq thing came from in midst of fight against terrorism in Afghanistan. I am truly sorry for all the American and Iraqi lives lost in this conflict, but as a firm believer in human rights and democracy, I hope that this will be good in long term</p></li>
<li><p>talking about the deficits during the first four years under Bush, given a recession, war on terror, etc. economics teaches you that you have two ways to boost the economy: a. Monetary and b. Fiscal - monetary policies and greenspan can control the short term but fiscal measures might be needed to control the long term. Consumer consumption is the engine that drives american economy. It is not big corporations like GE or Tyco tht helps the american economy but it is the guys shoppin at Wal-Mart tht keeps the american economy going. they needed an incentive to spend money and as it has been proved, tax cuts (tht resulted in some of the deficits) boosted the economy out of recession</p></li>
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<p>as i mentioned upfront, I am international, so this is what it looks to me as an outsider. Bush might be bad, but did the American people have a better alternative that him?</p>
<p>Adides, what are the politics like in India?</p>
<p>"bush won the popular vote"</p>
<p>Yes, the American people are clearly stupid, as they prove over and over.</p>
<p>"the liberals did not have a single candidate tht was better than him"</p>
<p>John Kerry may not have been the best candidate in American political history, but he made sense. I would take 1/2 a Kerry over Bush.</p>
<p>I find it extremely telling that the most populated areas (i.e., generally most likely to be affected by terrorism) are least likely to swallow Bush's propaganda. NY, CA, MA, etc....these are prime targets, along with any urban areas. Even Washington DC (the absolute most likely target) voted for Kerry. Cities (usually less ignorance) essentially did not vote for Bush. Meanwhile, a soccer mom in Nebraska votes for "a safer America" with Bush because she is afraid of Osama bin Laden/Saddam Hussein/Hitler savaging her small town.</p>
<p>Four more years of mistakes.</p>
<p>I'll never understand it...</p>