Non-Targets on Wall Street

<p>Does anyone know any non-targets that send graduates to Wall Street as investment bankers? They could start out as financial analysts or the like and progress to IB. I'm just interested to know if its possible to get from a non-target into IB.</p>

<p>If they sent a lot of graduates to Wall Street then it would be a target. By definition, they are non-targets because of the lack of recruiting.</p>

<p>There are always non-target students who break in, but it is because of their work and not their school.</p>

<p>Are you asking which schools are easier to get into that send students to Wall Street?</p>

<p>That is actually exactly what I’m asking. I guess it was a little unclear.</p>

<p>I hate how people assume that IBs are actually located on Wall Street. The only IB that’s headquarters actually remains on the street is Deutsche Bank. Lol just though I should point that out.</p>

<p>To answer your question, though, yes, some non-targets do send kid to top IBs, but, of course, not as frequently as the targets.</p>

<p>Of course, based off the definition of a target school, they have much greater representation on the street. If you go to a nontarget, I hope you chose the right majors and have an amazing GPA</p>

<p>Schools that have a presence in finance that are relatively easier to get into from high school: Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin, University of Texas, Villinova, Fordham, Baruch, and University of Richmond.</p>

<p>Indiana is alright I suppose but the rest of the schools you listed have absolutely NO PRESENCE in visible, front office positions at banks whatsoever.</p>

<p>UT isn’t bad either. Also its just common to refer to high finance as “Wall Street.”</p>

<p>Best bet might be via MBA, which will require work experience of course.</p>

<p>Having worked in investment banking before I can tell you that schools are tiered in this way:</p>

<p>1). National Targets (i.e. target candidates from these schools for all offices worldwide) - Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Penn/Wharton, Stanford, MIT, Dartmouth, etc. [not exhaustive but a sample of the schools]
2). Regional Targets (i.e. generally target candidates from these schools for local offices with some candidates going to other offices) - USC, UCLA, Berkeley, Rice, UT-Austin, UVA, UChicago, Northwestern, UMich, etc. [not exhaustive but a sample of the schools]
3). Non-Target (i.e. will hire from these schools if the person really networked and found a way to get an interview, attend a school with an “IB” focused program that fosters relationships with banks but arent necessarily considered targets)</p>

<p>For the non-target list I’ve seen most candidates come from schools like Indiana, Arizona State, Penn State, etc. [i.e. large public schools with semi-decent/average undergrad business programs].</p>

<p>Agree with Indiana.</p>

<p>I’ve also heard in terms of smaller schools, Holy Cross and Bucknell place some students in IB. Any idea if Miami, OH is a decent non-target?</p>

<p>Look end of day you’ll find someone from every school in IBD. However, there are certain non-targets, like Indiana, that send at least 1-2 every year. Honestly the easiest thing to do is go on linkedin and search for people in IBD from X school. That’ll give you a better idea.</p>

<p>These students from Indiana class of 2011 already have full time offers. </p>

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<p>thanks for posting bthomp…I should have clarified…i meant 1-2 per bulge bracket and MM firms. </p>

<p>In my class we had I think 2 from Indiana.</p>

<p>^ Exactly. You can do “investment banking” coming out of any school. It’s getting offers by BBs that makes things a bit more tricky.</p>

<p>Would you guys recommend majoring in finance or econ or both? At IU I know I would choose at least majoring in finance plus possibly a double major in econ or a minor because of Kelley. Idk about lesser non-targets though, specifically Illinois or Wisconsin. Thoughts?</p>

<p>You could do it with just finance if you’re doing Illinois. Kid I know from there who does BB IB in NYC now was a standalone finance major.</p>

<p>miami of ohio isn’t a target but it sends a handful of students to bulge bracket banks every year… there are also 5 - 6 MM banks that recruit there (baird, harris williams, etc.)</p>

<p>I probably shouldnt, but I will anyway – this conversation makes no sense whatsoever.
There are people on “Wall Street” from every decent college in US (and international, but we wont go into there). It all depends on an individual. Yes, it is easier to get recruited from targets, since the infrastructure is there. But if you are driven and network/have contacts you will also get in. Just because Indiana has a few kids already this year with offers, doesnt make it a "soft semi or nearby " target. What it means is that a few years ago when it became much harder for North East kids to get into North East colleges, guidance counsellors discovered Indiana. I havent done the research, but I bet the kids with offers are all from the NE and they would have wound up in finance no matter where they went.
PS there are tons of front office mds from UVA to poster that said UVA does regional recruiting only</p>