<p>Hey Guys,</p>
<p>I am a transfer student from UIUC Business and I am accepted at both programs.</p>
<p>I am interested in either Investment Banking or Management Consulting. Currently, I am interning at an IB.</p>
<p>Which school is better in terms of academics and career opportunities?</p>
<p>Cornell AEM for sure.</p>
<p>AEM hands down.</p>
<p>I don't know why you guys are so sure that Cornell AEM is better than Northwestern Econ. Especially in terms of acedemics.</p>
<p>Just because Cornell is an ivy?</p>
<p>I think it's kind of borderline but I'd go with AEM.</p>
<p>hmm, northwestern places a lot of students into the consulting field. But if you want to go into IB, then AEM is a better choice.</p>
<p>it is close.. but i'd have to go with cornell.</p>
<p>Well, AEM or whatever other major regardless, Cornell and Northwestern's alumni strength/loyalty in consulting is about the same, though Cornell is a fair margin stronger in investment banking.</p>
<p>Thus, not regarding the other factors, if you look purely at alumni (and thus recruiting), Cornell does have the advantage.</p>
<p>Of course, you'd hardly be dooming yourself at NU.</p>
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<p>I second biztogo; I don't know what kind of ranking AEM has received. I just never heard of Cornell having a top-10 business school (i.e. MBA program). But NU's econ has always been placed in the top-10 in just about any ranking that includes the likes of Chicago, HYPMS..etc, unlike undergrad business ranking. In terms of just academics, I don't see how some of you are so sure AEM is better.</p>
<p>When it comes to career placement, Cornell probably does have better network at the Wall St due to its proximity. But Chicago has many opportunities too.</p>
<p>ummm wowzers. Do you guys know how many people graduate with the AEM degree from Cornell? Very few compared to other schools and it has gotten increasingly competitive and I know this because two of my friends were and are currently in the program and I visited campus and it was pretty clear that the AEM degree was second to perhaps Wharton and Sloan and many of the kids turned down Stern to go there, but generally from what the students and professors said it is almost definitely a top 5 program in terms of recruitment, competitiveness and the student body. Now for all you academics out there yes there is Ross and Haas, but honestly better academics doesn't necessarily mean a better job at graduation because being 1 of only two undergraduate business programs is a huge plus.</p>
<p>But do you have placement report to show it's better than Hass and Ross?</p>
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<p>There is no such report. All he has is a second hand biased opinion. Pre-medwannabe, you should check out the actual employment stats for AEM students. It should be on their website or businessweek. AEM is awesome but I think you are overrating their job placement.</p>
<p>Sam Lee-</p>
<p>In the investment banking niche, Cornell's AEM program is very highly regarded, more so than Ross or Haas. If you go speak to any Investment Banker, they will tell you Cornell AEM trumps Ross or Haas for prestige on the street. </p>
<p>For every other field in business Haas and Ross trumps Cornell's AEM, that is including the field of Consulting(this can be argued though).</p>
<p>If I couldn not attend HYPSW, I would pick either Columbia, Dartmouth, or Cornell.</p>
<p>I never knew Cornell was such a powerhouse on the street myself, unitl I actually starting interning at Ibanks. It's funny how guys who have never laid a finger in the field of Ibanking, talk about it like they are old veterans of the field.</p>
<p>I have a question, how many of you arguing against cornell have worked in the field of investment banking, or are you just rambling internet theory?</p>
<p>I base my judgments of a school's job placement on employment statistics, I don't think there is a more reliable source. Also you gotta remember we are talking about AEM here, not Cornell as a whole. This also happens a lot when people start lumping MIT job placement in to the argument of Sloan job placement.</p>
<p>jnpn-</p>
<p>The first thing you learn at Wharton, and I quote:</p>
<p>"Statistics are Bull ****."</p>
<p>Now, this is definitely an overstatement, but the reason I admire the quote is because people get caught up with statistics that don't prove anything, especially here on CC. For example, Harvard does not have the highest SAT average, so technically they are not the "smartest" school, this doesn't change that they are widely considered the smartest, and most elite University in the world.</p>
<p>Statistics also show that Ross and Haas have more people each year placed in Ibanking than Cal Tech does, this doesn't change that Cal Tech trumps Ross and Haas in the field of Ibanking prestige.</p>
<p>AEM is so under estimated by the general public, yes, college confidential IS the general public. No matter what any statistics say, jnpn, ask ANY NYC ibank recruiter the following quiestion: </p>
<p>"Who would you hire, a Ross grad, Hass grad, or AEM grad, considering all other aspects equal?" You'll be surprised at the answer.</p>
<p>Don't get me wrong jnpn, I used to be exactly like you, I thought AEM was mediocre, but since then I've been to many superdays and have LOST 2 major internships to Cornell AEM graduates. AEMers as we call them, are highly represented in NYC's ibanking medium.</p>
<p>Nuff said.</p>
<p>Caltech trumps ross and haas in ibanking? really? thats a first!
I have one more question, losing out to an AEM grad just has everything to do with you being at wharton, and not anything with the fact that they may just be better students than you overall? (I don't mean to be rude or anything but just pointing out a more likely possibility). How many internships did you lose to ross, sloan or stern students?
This is not to say that i support NU econ over AEM but to say that AEM is only second to wharton is ridiculous!</p>
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This is somewhat true, but in situations like this I don't think your anecdotal evidence is any more reliable.</p>
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Statistics also show that Ross and Haas have more people each year placed in Ibanking than Cal Tech does, this doesn't change that Cal Tech trumps Ross and Haas in the field of Ibanking prestige.
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<p>The reason the stats are somewhat relevant when comparing Ross/Haas/AEM is that they have very similar enrollment numbers and interest in investment banking (which isn't the case with schools like caltech).</p>
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<p>I don't see how there can be that many AEMers on the street when it has only been around for a couple years but I'll take your word for it.</p>
<p>Canadian1989-</p>
<p>I never once said Cornell was second to Wharton, please don't put words in my mouth. I don't even consider Cornell better than Dartmouth, Columbia, Stanford, etc.</p>
<p>LMAO, you don't think Caltech trumps ross and haas in ibanking? You need to get a clue man. </p>
<p>I actually have a big advantage here at Wharton, I transfered in from a relitively easy school in which I recieved a 4.0, so when I calculate my GPA I factor in the 4.0. At Wharton, things were different and I got a 3.6, my GPA now is about a 3.8.</p>
<p>I just realized, your an 18 year old kid...no wonder. The stuff I am telling you is not some big new idea, print my post and I guarantee 90% of ibankers will agree with me. </p>
<p>Logically, canadian, you are completely right...but once you start working in ibanking, your perception will change. I know mine did.</p>
<p>JNPN-</p>
<p>I definetly see what you are saying, and I agee. But I am am just speaking from my experience that NYC bankers consider Cornell's AEM more prestigious than Haas or Ross. I am not saying the numbers prove it, but that is just the general perception.</p>
<p>By "AEMers on the street," I'm talking about their presence at interviews and junior conferences.</p>
<p>That is all.</p>
<p>You do know your stuff jnpn, I think you'll do well in ibanking.</p>
<p>Good luck, mate.</p>