<p>I second that, frolik!</p>
<p>I'm not religious (agnostic), and, er, not opposed to kissing/hugging/physical contact, if that's what you meant by "physical intimacy," fire. Oops. Boy, is my face red.</p>
<p>As for going sub-free, I haven't stayed overnight at Amherst, but my tour guide said she chose sub-free so that her roommate wouldn't be coming back in the middle of the night and throwing up outside their door. Yikes. That image was plenty to scare me away from the other dorms. Although this isn't true for me, I know that some people who do drink can choose sub-free so they'll have the option of partying at the other dorms or not.</p>
<p>people don't get drunk every day of the week, right? and they don't have to puke at your doorstep every time they do, it simply doesn't sound real.</p>
<p>When I overnighted, I stayed in Pond, and one of my hosts came back drunk, threw up (in the bathroom though), and yelled in chinglish until about four o'clock in the morning. True, it was a saturday night, but I just thought in sub free 1. there'd be less likelihood of people coming back drunk, or for me to have a roommate/neighbors who do 2. many current students say that sub free is cleaner and has more of a dorm community 3. it seems more likely to meet people that want to do other things besides go to parties and drink.</p>
<p>Also, the sub-free dorm this year (North) was very nice and new.</p>
<p>While people don't get drunk everyday, many do every week, and I don't know, I think I would get tired of it every week if it kept happening on my floor or something. Freshmen sub-free is also different from upperclassmen sub-free, it's less strict, so it's not like you can't go out and party if you wanted to.</p>
<p>frolik and bogororo, you seem like the kind of people I hope are represented at least partially in the sub-free dorms. Sub-free kids CAN and DO drink, go to parties, etc, they just go to other dorms. Living in sub-free seems to be a good combination of a quiet environment (when you want to sleep) and a social atmosphere that encourages outgoing people to meet kids from other dorms. That said, I've also heard that sub-free dorms have good inner communities too.</p>
<p>Remember, sub-free kids aren't kept from drinking - no kids drink (or they keep it quiet) if they're physically inside a sub-free dorm.</p>
<p>ahobbit - yea, the nice, renovated condition of the sub-free dorm (North) definately affected my decision to live in sub-free.</p>
<p>And you can "go out and party" if you live in upperclass sub-free housing - those kids are just more straightedge about personal sub-freeness than the freshmen are.</p>
<p>I think I'll try sub-free for the 1st semester</p>
<p>does that mean people in sub-free dont like staying up till 1-2 am every evening? or that i couldn't push my music to the max (even with headphones?)?
my parents want me to pick sub-free while i'm trying to convince them it's my own decision. so i don't know where i'll end up, although the housing questionnaire will soon be in the mail :(</p>
<p>3-4 is usually when most ppl start going to bed. you can blast music as loud as you want as long as it's not after quiet hours. 12 on weeknights and 2 on weekends.
other dorms are more lax about music in general though.</p>
<p>frolik: It's funny that your parents are pushing you to choose sub-free dorms. Mine say I should go for the "normal" dorms and be a normal college student. I guess I'm a bit more prudish and good-little-girl than i was raised to be, lol. I haven't decided which would be right for me. I'm not into parties, but it doesn't bother me to be around people who are. Though, I roomed w/ ahobbitinside at Open House, and I'm not sure I'd like the screaming/puking till 4 am roommate on a daily or weekly basis. I did stay with a few other pre-froshes for a while in a different dorm (not sub free) and some people drank or partied, but they weren't quite as into it as our hosts were. They just came back and played Trivial Pursuit or Scrabble, with more amusing results than usual. I think I'd be fine in either one.</p>
<p>Cynthia, it's probably because they are afraid they will have no control over me :) it's after all the first time i'll be living in a foreign country, 11 hours away by plane. so i understand them to an extent.</p>
<p>bogororo, i guess you do technically have the opportunity to move after the 1st semester, but i don't know how many students do it? I'd expect the #of kids who switch rooms at the semester to be pretty low. Maybe Amherst08 or other current students could comment?</p>
<p>frolik, i personally wouldn't care if you blasted your music on headphones. blasting your music late on speakers though may irritate people outside your room. I'm pretty laid back; i don't think it would get me riled - but i donno how the average subfree kid would respond. I hope the same as me, though</p>
<p>it's not that uncommon for freshmen to move into upperclassmen housing in the spring. there are a lot of vacancies because a lot of juniors go away for study abroad. if you can deal with hauling all of your stuff, the administration won't stand in your way.</p>