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Yes, but the Catholic Church condemns the use of birth control, so you can have recreational sex as long as you are ok with having recreational babies.

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<p>Hahaahaha.</p>

<p>"Natural" birth control is the rythym method, ie timing your sex according to the females cycles. I guess coitus interuptus would be considered natural birth control also.</p>

<p>^^^^ Yeah I'll pass. Those have to be the worst ways of preventing pregnancy save for ejaculating inside of a female.</p>

<p>ejaculating inside of a female in great.</p>

<p>lol</p>

<p>NFP is actually incredibly effective if done correctly. I.E. you have to pay attention to your temperature and cycle and things like that. It's pretty easy to figure out when a woman is ovulating for most women, and OH NOES you can't have sex 2 days out of a month, you are going to DIE. I actually know a woman who used the pill in combination with condoms and managed to get pregnant anyway - then she switched to NFP and has been baby-free for a good 4 years.</p>

<p>lol I feel like the NFP poster child - that is what being a good strict Catholic does to you ;)</p>

<p>NFP sounds like too much work. Much more work than I'd ever want to do to avoid little babies</p>

<p>Ehh..NFP requires too much thinking and work. I'll think putting the rubber suit over the little soldier will do just fine.</p>

<p>NFP sounds like some great idea a MAN came up with. Let's see how many guys are willing to do that if they could</p>

<p>yeah no joke. That doesn't sound very recreational to me. plus that's only if a woman has normal cycles. a lot of people are pretty irregular, so it doesn't work for everyone. If a guy jacks off should he save the sperm because it's potential babies? I think not. No different if it goes into a condom.</p>

<p>Seeing as how having babies should be the woman's choice in the first place, it's up to her if she wants to NFP, no? It doesn't work EASILY for everybody, but even if your cycle is irregular with a little patience and practice it's pretty darn effective as long as you take the time to do it. As effective as pill/condom? Probably not. Practical for the average college student? Almost definitely not. But it's something. I know a decent amount of women who don't like the idea of hormonal birth control, and so they use a condom and NFP as their two forms.</p>

<p>p.s. i don't want to turn this into a birth control debate, i just want to point out that there are some people out there (i.e. me) who are quote/unquote "against" artificial birth control and there are other options out there. am i going to go crazy and steal all the free condoms at school? of course not. but all you guys should be aware that you just might run into some crazy feminist and so you better be ready for it ;)</p>

<p>This has nothing to with either jacking off or pulling out (or sex in general, really), but I want to spare myself from having to start a thread over this. I'm an only child, so I never had to share a bedroom when I was at home. When I was away at college, I had single room. I'm back at home going to the local college now. Anyway, the point is that I've never had to share a bedroom with anybody for a extended period of time.</p>

<p>So what do you guys (and girls) that have to share a bedroom with someone else do when you have to change, especially after you've come from the shower. You're obviously naked (well, you could be a never-nude) and you need to get dressed and your roommate is in the room. What do you do? Bare it all in front of your roomate? Throw him or her out?</p>

<p>I hate that is sound excessively complicated like I've been pondering this for ages. This thread just put that question into my mind ;-)</p>

<p>I plan on "baring it all" I guess. I was a competitive swimmer for years, and you just lose all your modesty. Obviously if you are uncomfortable or your roommate is uncomfortable with it, then the easiest would be to just either "deck change" (i.e. change with a towel) or use the bathroom. But if you think about it, assuming you're rooming same-sex, you both have the same parts, so what is there to be embarrassed about?</p>

<p>haha.. recreational babies</p>

<p>Prettyfish, rhythm method is not effective for women with irregular periods. You definitely have the right idea with checking temperatures and mucus, though. The most secure way to use selective abstinence as a method of contraception would be to use a fertility monitor.</p>

<p>I'm sure you know the old joke, though: What do you call rhythm method users? Parents. If fertility awareness is one's primary method of b/c, that person needs to be prepared for parenthood.</p>

<p>I like to think of FAM (i finally remembered the acronym!) as the classier version of the rhythm method ;)</p>

<p>I'm definitely not saying it's for everyone, (and really shouldn't anyone having sex be at least a little prepared for possible parenthood?) but I'm definitely getting the impression that there's lots of people not even aware of it, don't you think?</p>

<p>(and i honestly didn't know that it didn't work with irregular periods, so you taught me something new! i just assumed that it wouldn't be as easy, i.e. you couldn't plot out in advance which days are a no-no)</p>

<p>There is a difference between rhythm and fertility awareness. Rhythm isn't effective for anyone, really, because ovulation occurs 2 weeks before your cycle, not 2 weeks after. Even regular women have fluctuations, and this is when babies happen. If all you're using for b/c is a calendar, you should probably leave a nice block of time open ~9 months from each encounter.</p>

<p>My concern with FAM is that some women are less in tune with their bodies (forgive the clich</p>

<p>Agreed - my guess is that fertility monitors are quite effective, else they really wouldn't be making a profit, no? I haven't ever looked into it since it's not really baby-making time for me ;) </p>

<p>And I agree with you in re "in-tuneness" and FAM - one of the things I like so much about the concept is the way that it seems that in order to do it correctly, you HAVE to be in-tune - like, it's a good way to get to know yourself better and read your own body signals all with a purpose.</p>

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You definitely have the right idea with checking temperatures and mucus, though.

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<p>This sentence reminded me of the time when alot of my Guard buddies wives were pregnant and a bunch of guys had a 30 minute conversation about the mucus plug.</p>

<p>Just a reminder that only condoms protect against STIs so if you're going to be having sex with multiple people, use a condom. Not saying you shouldn't if you're only doing it with one person, but assuming that you are monogamous and get tested, it should be ok with other forms of bc.</p>