Notre Dame and Financial Aid

<p>I was accepted to Notre Dame as an Early-Action applicant. Although it is one of the lower ranked engineering schools on my list I am attracted to the university for the sense of community and also the ability to take business classes at Mendoza along with engineering classes. I feel like Notre Dame is one of the most well-rounded schools on my list and is truly an experience rather than simply an education.</p>

<p>A quick review of my stats are as follows - 4.74/4.8 GPA, Valedictorian, 2240 SAT, 750 CHEM, 650 MATH II (it was a rough day, regret not re-taking it), 33 ACT, strong ECs (Started school recycling program, ECO Club President, NHS, other leadership/community service), and strong recommendations.</p>

<p>What are my chances for a substantial financial aid package when they mail in late March? I also applied to Penn, Columbia, Northwestern, and Duke which I hear are very generous. What is Notre Dame's aid reputation? (Specifically merit/grant rewards, not loans). I was pleased with my award from UVA (22k merit a year), but disappointed with Michigan's 8k a year merit. (Both of those schools were early action admits too)</p>

<p>Any information regarding Notre Dame and financial aid would be great.</p>

<p>With the exception of the Hesburgh-Yusko awards, all of Notre Dame’s financial aid is need-based. If you didn’t apply for that program, your financial aid award will depend on your financial need, not your academic merit.</p>

<p>Second, you should be aware that it is very difficult, if not impossible, for students who are not enrolled in the Mendoza College of Business to take courses offered by that college. </p>

<p>Good luck with your decision. Sounds like you got a very nice award from U-VA!</p>

<p>Thank you for the information.</p>

<p>And even more so thank you for the tidbit about the Mendoza College of Business. Most schools I have visited, especially Penn, are big on the “one” university policy and ability to take classes across all schools. I just assumed Notre Dame followed a similar mentality. When I have all the information regarding finances for all the schools I am accepted into I am going to visit/speak to counselors at all of them.</p>

<p>I am a freshman engineer at Notre Dame. Sorry for the pitch, but I thought I’d offer my two cents on your first paragraph. After I got all my decisions, I had narrowed it down to four schools. All three of the other schools had better reputations for engineering than ND. I chose ND, and I’m very glad I did. I love it here. You are correct that it is more of an experience than an education. I can’t even put into words what it is like to live here. You truly have to experience it to understand why ND is a university like no other. I think the college of engineering offers a particularly great experience. The freshman engineers are a very tight-knit group. We are all friends with each other, and we have an awesome time studying, doing projects, and hanging out with each other. While I have a lot of friends in other colleges, I especially appreciate the comraderie of the engineering students.</p>

<p>As far as taking classes in Mendoza, I disagree that it is nearly impossible to do so if you are not enrolled in Mendoza. ND requires that you take a variety of classes to graduate, so you will certainly be taking classes outside the college of engineering. Just this year I’ve taken classes in three of the five colleges, and I will probably be taking a class in one of the other two next year. In fact, I am considering doing a minor that is offered by the college of engineering that REQUIRES students to take courses in Mendoza. The only issue with taking courses in Mendoza is that you are an engineer, so there are not many free spaces in your schedule. The college of engineering has a lot more course requirements than the other colleges do, so there won’t be room in your schedule if you plan on taking a whole bunch of classes in Mendoza. There’s room for some, but not a ton.</p>

<p>As far as financial aid, I’ve found that ND is more generous than most other need-blind universities. I can’t speak to your situation or what you will receive, but my family is paying less than what the FAFSA told us our expected family contribution is. It is true that Hesburgh-Yusko is the only merit-based scholarship other than athletic scholarships, but most selective universities also offer few merit scholarships or no merit scholarships.</p>

<p>Good luck, and go Irish! I hope to see you wandering the halls of Stinson-Remick next year.</p>

<p>just to add, I believe there is a program within the school of engineering where you can get a combined bachelors in engineering as well as an MBA from Mendoza-- takes five years, I think you apply sophomore year to begin this in your junior year</p>

<p>Another possibility would be your local Notre Dame Club. Many offer scholarships. Some you are automatically eligible for on acceptance to ND, and some require an additional application. If you have not already been contacted by a local club member you should look them up. There should be a local club website where you can find info or contacts.</p>

<p>Here is information regarding enrollment in business fundamentals courses by nonbusiness majors: </p>

<p>[Courses</a> for Non-business Students](<a href=“http://business.nd.edu/Undergraduate_Studies/Academics/Courses_for_Non-business_Students/]Courses”>http://business.nd.edu/Undergraduate_Studies/Academics/Courses_for_Non-business_Students/)</p>

<p>Note that although these courses have the same title as the courses for Mendoza students, they are open (apparently) only to juniors and seniors in other colleges. </p>

<p>As enrollment in Mendoza has surged, it has become increasingly difficult for the college to accommodate all of its students, and non-Mendoza students were essentially locked out of many of the introductory courses. Anyone interested in taking a few courses in Mendoza, but not majoring in business, should ask lots of questions regarding any restrictions before making decisions about enrollment or majors.</p>

<p>I know it’s bad to revive old threads, but I just had to ask…
Using the net price calculator, my estimated price at ND was 22,000 a year, while using the same numbers at other 100% need schools it was around $7000. (Duke 6,500; Vandy 7,300)
My efc is estimated at 6-7,000… could this be due to some sort of glitch in the system? I would consider myself a competitive applicant at ND, but kind of wrote it off due to the extravagant number the calculator gave me. Should I reconsider?</p>

<p>Nick - DS was accepted at both ND and Duke last year. Duke’s FA package was appreciably more generous. However, when I emailed ND’s FA office and politely asked them for an explanation of the difference, they essentially offered to match Duke’s package.</p>

<p>Even better, in May our local ND Alumni Club offered him an additional scholarship that replaced much of his loans which made the offer even better.</p>

<p>DS moved in last week and is thrilled. ND really seems like a great fit for him for many reasons.</p>

<p>rmldad - How did the additional scholarship come about? Did you contact the alumni association or did they initiate? My twins are HS seniors and this is our first time thru the college search and application process, so I’m interested in learning about various funding opportunities.</p>

<p>My son was accepted EA in December, but did not receive his FA offer until the end of March. About that same time, our local ND Alumni Club contacted us and let us know that he was eligible to apply for their scholarships. I believe it wasn’t until after he picked ND that we were notified of his receiving the additional scholarship, perhaps in May.</p>

<p>Because the ND Alumni Club scholarship is considered an “outside scholarship”, ND reduces its FA package a corresponding amount by first applying the amount to loans, then to Work Study.</p>

<p>I would suggest you google “ND Alumni Club for xxx” to find your local chapter. We happen to live in an area where the chapter is pretty big. However, from talking to other parents, many cities have large, active groups. The Notre Dame family is huge and passsionate. The local clubs also offer a bunch of other services as well (transportation options, football ticket lotteries, social events, service opportunities, etc.).</p>

<p>As far as financial aid, I’ve found that ND is more generous than most other need-blind universities. I can’t speak to your situation or what you will receive, but my family is paying less than what the FAFSA told us our expected family contribution is. It is true that Hesburgh-Yusko is the only merit-based scholarship other than athletic scholarships, but most selective universities also offer few merit scholarships or no merit scholarships.</p>

<p>Can someone confirm above statement is true as I saw the following in ND website?</p>

<p>Notre Dame Merit Scholarships
Notre Dame offers a limited number of merit scholarships to a limited number of students, accepted for admission as a first-time incoming freshman, who demonstrate exceptional accomplishment, leadership, commitment to service, and intellectual promise.</p>

<p>Notre Dame’s three signature and highly competitive programs include the Penelope W. and E. Roe Stamps IV Leadership Scholars Program, the Hesburgh-Yusko Scholars Program, and the Suzanne and Walter Scott Notre Dame Scholars Program. Additionally, Notre Dame offers a limited number of other merit-based scholarship opportunities that range in value from $10,000 to $25,000 annually. Typically, these scholarships are renewable for four years and recipients may be invited to participate in leadership development and enrichment opportunities as an additional benefit of their awards.</p>

<p>My understanding was that those scholarship should have nothing to do with your family fianancial situation. Please confirm?</p>