<p>Whys that so funny? I quoted Irish because I felt that it was very well said and there was no point in putting it in other words. You want to argue that point and the other point I made, ask Irish68.</p>
<p>sweetlax,</p>
<p>you made no points. everything you said was either made or or had a valid counter argument made. and then you just go on completely ignoring everything i said. If you have something to support any of your claims that doesn't consist of "well thats my opinion, i picked ND over cornell, alumni network, my friend's neighbor said" let me know.</p>
<p>I will back up Sweetlax on the peer assessment score because I do think some academics feel that if you go to a Catholic school you must not be serious about academics. However, I honestly believe that the peer assessment score is too low. I look at schools I view as being equal (and I like to think I am not too biased and am pretty well educated on these issues, but that is debatable) and ours is just so much lower. Who knows why, I don't get it, but I think it is too low. I know that isn't worth much, but that is how I feel. I can give examples if wanted.</p>
<p>Really I think this whole debate is a bit ridiculous in a way because what school is "best" really depends on the individual, you know? For me, ND is the best school for me, and I would have picked it above any other school. However, I am sure there are people who pick IU over ND for various reasons. It depends what is best for YOU and what YOU are looking for. Regardless in this case, you are going to get a fantastic education and you will be very successful...so you may as well go to the best place for you!</p>
<p>I don't understand why Catholicism gets a bum rap. The driving force is "Fides et Ratio", also known as "Faith and Reason."</p>
<p>I think that rankings are hogwash, honestly. One should not choose school the number 36 ranked school over the number 40th ranked school because of the rank. Like Irish said, its different for each individual. To some people the harsh academics and lack on collegiate sports involvement at Uchicago seems perfect, even though to me it sounds like hell. UChicago is consistently ranked high in the us news rankings, however Id choose to go to many lower ranked schools before I would go to uchicago. To me, the best fist is Notre Dame. If I was accepted at any university in the nation, I'd choose to go to Notre Dame. You may say Im crazy, but it "fits" To me, no university embodies the spirit of academcis, family, and activity like Notre Dame. I dont really care if the chemistry department at Harvard is 25 spots higher than it is at Notre Dame, you know? So to me there is no reason why such a heated debate should be sparked by such topic.</p>
<p>PosterX,</p>
<p>Yes, Yale has a great Divinity School, which is a grad school, and has classes in religion. However, a class in religion is not required. It really depends upon your perspective on whether there should be a core requirement, i.e. St. John's great books program or a more open independent exploratory program like Brown. Yale and ND are not at either extreme, though on the scale ND is closer to St John's and Yale is closer to Brown.</p>
<p>Yale has excellent classes in religion, however, a class in religion is not required. While Yale was a religious institution in its founding as the Collegiate School, it is a secular school that has religious classes. ND, like other Catholic schools, have chosen to be Catholic Universities. This choice implies a different challenge than at other schools. Fr. Jenkins has written a lot about this challenge.</p>
<p>At the end of the day, it could be the difference between the schools. To me, I view it as the choice between an ice cream sundae and a banana split. You can't make a wrong choice. Just make the one you think is best for you. You can get in to an excellent graduate school if you work hard at either school.</p>
<p>posterX, why do you care so much about bragging on everything to do with Yale? If you are a student, then you must have way too much to study and be way too smart to even care. If you are an alum, you probably are successful, and have no reason to care anymore. Just tell giggidy why Yale was, is, or will be a good fit for you and be done with it already.</p>
<p>just a quick edit, I meant to say "made up or" not "made or or"...oh well.</p>
<p>Danbrenn, it is quite appropriate for posterx to engage in this discussion because it is a discussion about comparing Yale and ND. That is what the original poster wanted to compare so they can make an informed decision. It is best if the discussion is not one sided one way or the other. I would suggest that irish and others check the Yale board to see if a similar discussion is underway there.</p>
<p>It may be, but I usually try to avoid other boards unless they are not getting any responses there just because I feel like a troll otherwise. I may not be, but I figure the Yale people can answer the Yale questions over there, we can answer the ND questions here, and then the OP can make their decision. </p>
<p>I hate to go over to other boards because it usually ends up like this; the debate takes a turn for the worst and it ends up with people on both sides bickering over rankings or who knows what and the person who gets forgotten is the OP. Truth be told I don't care where the OP goes, as long as they go to the best school for them. If that is Yale, that is fine! I just don't want to start a fight over on the Yale boards, but I will at least peak to see what is going on over there.</p>
<p>I did look at the Yale board and it actually was very even, so I am content leaving it as it is, though I think our discussion was far better. What is funny is that PosterX kept getting shot down on his own board. </p>
<p>I find it funny that posterX never answers any of our questions...the main one being: Are you a student at Yale, alum?</p>
<p>sweetlax,</p>
<p>posterx is the same age as you--HS class of 2011. happy?</p>
<p>i meant to say college class of 2011--wouldn't let me edit before for some reason</p>
<p>Eagle, It is alright for posterX to participate in a discussion about the advantages of Yale and Notre Dame, but if you read the entire thread, it seems like he has been just trying to start fights over rankings and such. This is not helpful to anyone, and it just leads to long, hostile and stupid arguments.</p>
<p>Irish, I agree. A nice balanced, though limited, discussion on the Yale board.</p>
<p>Giddidy, I dunno if you are still around because this thread went a little off-topic, but today I decided on going to ND next year over Penn. I really did like both schools, and I felt honored to be accepted at a great school like Penn, but there is just something special about ND. Everytime I walk onto the campus, it just feels like somewhere I can fit in and feel at home. It just feels right. Obviously, wherever you go, you will get a fantastic education and you'd probably be happy at either place. Like other people said, though, ND has those intangibles -- regardless of rankings.</p>
<p>Top 100 Global Universities is not equal to Top 100 Universities in the World</p>
<p>Their emphasis is on "Global" - read the dang article X</p>
<p>And UConn is not in Notre Dame's league academically; it probably has a more "international" faculty</p>
<p>UConn is better.</p>
<p>lol, I go to UConn, and UConn is not better than Notre Dame. It can compete with Notre Dame on many levels, though.</p>