^ Last para in 258.
It’s a common misconception that high performing URMs must be getting by on giveaways.
“It’s a common misconception that high performing URMs must be getting by on giveaways.”
What have I written that would lead one to believe that would be relevant to me?
“Einstein never would’ve gotten in today.”
If Einstein’s sole purpose since the day he was born was to get into Harvard, he likely never would’ve discovered the theory of relativity that led to the creation of the atomic bomb, Japan would’ve ruled over Hawaii, and quite possibly much of Asia.
Instead, we would’ve had Einstein the Harvard trained physicist who went on to work at Goldman Sachs and made out like a bandit during the Great Depression. Who knows Goldman Sachs might even have been renamed Goldman Einstein Sachs.
Einstein might have had accommodations today for his dyslexia, and perhaps would have written a compelling personal statement on his applications.
@catlover2000 don’t apply to Harvard and you’ll will be okay, most people will.
I do think that to some degree having a 4.0 is ridiculous. The smartest girl I know, who will be are valedictorian next year, doesn’t even have a 4.0. I think a good example at out school is Calculus. People who typically make all As celebrated when they made Bs and Cs in Calculus, because it was a really hard class and it stretched them. You also have to consider standardized testing. I made a B in Geometry because we had a new state test that they hadn’t field tested properly and everyone failed (their was a 40pt curve and I still made an 88). That doesn’t necessarily mean that people who have all A’s didn’t deserve it or work for it. It just means they had some combination of luck and hard work.
@HobbitTon That is an incredibly intellectually vacuous argument, and it’s kind of bizarre that Harvard accepted you. You try to dismiss statistical evidence…with an anecdote that you got accepted?
This was a heavily publicised human interest story when it first came out. I’ll wager very few Harvard grads reacted by saying, “This is an example of everything that’s wrong with AA.” I think most people would have been curious to understand what made him so special, as well as the fellow who accomplished the same feat the year before. In both instances their personalities jump out at you (there are plenty of YouTube videos available. You should look at them.) They obviously figured out a way to get their sweetness and caring for others across to each of the adcoms accepting them. If this is the sort of headline that keeps you up, grinding your teeth at night, then I have no sympathy for your position.
^^^And his parents weren’t a “wealthy family of doctors” either, @catlover2000. Get your facts straight if you’re going to make such bold charges. His father is an engineer with the FAA and his mother works in management at FedEx.
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@circuitrider that’s OK bc I feel sympathy for you. It must suck to be so ignorant hugs&kisses :x
@LucieTheLakie I wasn’t talking about him… go on YouTube. The kid from last year said his parents were doctors from Ghana… plus he said in the interview he was going to chose Yale…
@catlover2000, this is what you wrote:
So I guess you’re conflating the two students (one African American, the other an African immigrant from Ghana) and the two Ivies (Harvard and Yale). But who cares? They’re all the same, right?
P.S. That kind of logic won’t get you into any top school.
P.P.S All you Ivy-destined kids need to learn the difference between “its” and “it’s.”
You take the most challenging courses available to you.
My kids love learning. A good student finds ways to make the most out of each opportunity. That facilitates a good grade. Now, one is graduating from a top college. With a 4.0.
- With 0-3 perfect GPAs out of 300, each year, I don't think our HS is in danger of handing them out like candy.
- Really? It's a conspiracy to give only certain students 4.0s? Only the best students, maybe?
- Being a National AP Scholar can probably help put this one to rest.
Got any other personal insights on 4.0s?
As a hiring manager, I don’t care where you went to school, but when I see “it’s” for “its” and “you’re” for “your,” the resume goes into the circular file.
Why is it so hard to understand H is looking for smart thinkers and do-ers, kids who can take on the right sorts of challenges and do some good. That’s more than taking X class and making assumptions.
Not kids who think they already know it all, jump at each new anecdote, then have a sassy meltdown. Not to mention, point accusing fingers at others, for being “ignorant.” That’s not going to get a kid far with a tippy top, no matter their stats. No matter the family background.
In a kid’s writing on CC, you can often tell who thinks, who can process, and who mistakes fiery certainty for thinking. Or who researches an issue, versus who heard it somewhere or wants to pull in a random anecdote.
@LucieTheLakie I’m sorry the only thing you can find wrong with my opinions are the grammar. BTW, I consider people who live in America as American. For example, if you’re from Asia, but move to America, I consider you Asian American. They’re actually not the same (Idk if you meant that statement sarcastically).
I’m also not an ivy destined kid. Affirmative action has helped me set realistic goals. :x
No, what I found wrong with your “opinions” is that you misrepresented the facts and then tried to cover your tracks. You can blame affirmative action for that too if it makes you feel better.
Ouch.
@NoVADad99 Hey you obviously think you’re a smart guy, do you know what an “ad hominem” is, and how it might apply to your funny excuse for an argument?
@LucieTheLakie It seems like your tactic in this discussion has been to nitpick at methodological mistakes that people have made in their posts and pretending that this somehow refutes the bigger picture - that college admissions consultants coach Asians to hide their ethnicities so that they won’t hurt their admissions chances, and that programs in universities designed to help minorities explicitly bar Asians from joining them or benefiting from their scholarships.
The fact of the matter is that if affirmative action is supposed to act as a “counter-weight” against institutional racism, it ought actually favor Asian Americans, because we are, believe it or not, a minority, and we do suffer from discrimination. I concede we probably don’t suffer the same hostility that blacks and hispanics do, but it’s hilarious that we would be disadvantaged against caucasions applicants.
Uh, hardly, @RMIBstudent. I’m the one in this thread who has repeatedly called out Harvard for not disclosing the acceptance rates for each ethnic group applying and requested an explanation for that practice. I am not unsympathetic to the position of Asian-Americans who feel there is a structural bias against them, but citing erroneous “facts” hardly helps the argument and IMHO undermines it.