<p>Virtually all NYC public school documents and the website are translated into Arabic, Bengali, Chinese, Haitian Creole, Korean, Russian, Spanish, Urdu, and French.</p>
<p>I’m not completely following what was the point of asking about cobrat’s background and the subsequent posts. </p>
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<p>The seeming implication from that is that only private prep high schools provide academically prepared non-athlete students. Funny considering there are plenty of famous private prep schoolers whose undergrad academic performance was mediocre as shown by famous Ivy alums like FDR* and a recent past president known more for statements like “putting food on your family”. </p>
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<p>Nothing I said implied a lack of understanding that there are good quality public schools out there. I merely suggested that some student-athletes (eg. minority football and basketball players) did not receive a quality education prior to college, and it should be remembered that deficient educational preparation does not necessarily equate to stupidity.</p>
<p>The band system for Ivy league athletic recruits is used mainly for Ice Hockey, Basketball and Football recruits. For football Harvard was only allowed 2 players in the lowest AI band. Most of the Ivy league athletic recruits are not recruited under the band system. All athletic recruits, including those recruited under the band system must have a minimum AI score, which was raised recently in 2011. Once again no such floor exists for legacy admits For each Ivy League school the average AI of all the athletic recruits is required to be within a standard deviation of the average AI for that school. The academic index is a minimum standard, some Ivy League schools have teams that are above the minimum.</p>
<p>In post #129 Hunt admits he doesn’t actually know the GPA of the athletes or legacies. Because admission data by Espenshade show that both groups are similar academically any statement about the groups having a different outcome during college should be supported by data from the actual GPA of both groups.</p>
<p>Epenshades analysis showed that that academic recruits have a similar SAT bonus to as compared to legacy admits and that being an athletic recruit increased an applicant’s chance of admission by a factor of 4. The dean of admission for Harvard stated in 2011 that being a legacy increased an applicants chance of admission by a factor of 4. Thus recruited athletes and legacies at Ivy league schools appear to be similar academically. </p>
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<p>If one doesn’t have experience or familiarity with the school culture and bureaucracy it affects or how the educational system is put together and works in actual practice, having such translated documents may not be of much help without someone with such familiarity and experience providing some guidance.</p>
<p>For instance, tax forms, insurance contracts, organizational bureaucracy charts of given institutions, and computer technology manuals are all written in the same English language most native-born Americans are familiar with due to growing up in the US and our educational backgrounds. </p>
<p>Even so, most Americans who don’t have some expertise/insider familiarity in those areas would feel lost navigating such documents without an expert providing some sort of guidance. </p>
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<p>Not all athletes are necessarily recruited from public schools and not all athletes who have academic issues in college had them due to having deficient educational preparation from a poor quality public school. </p>
<p>Some could have had that deficiency from attending a poor quality private school/choice of courses taken in a respectable/elite private school or…their academic issues had nothing to do with deficient educational preparation. </p>
<p>In addition, interpreters are available on the phone if not on-site. Considering that a third of NYC residents were born outside the U.S. (and that many of them came with children or had children here) NYC has risen to that particular challenge. The language issue is handled much better now than it was in the past.</p>
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I was never talking about averages in the first place. I was talking about who are the academically weakest students that you will encounter at an Ivy League school. You make a pretty good point that it is likely to be a football, hockey, or basketball player. Indeed, I asked my daughter about this and that’s what she said, based on what people said in class. I asked her about academically weak women, and she said that you can’t tell about them, because they don’t speak up in class.</p>
<p>It’s all relative, as I said. She was in an architecture class this summer, with students from various colleges. The professor showed two photographs of structures, and asked which one was older. One student said, “The one on the right must be newer, because it’s in color.”</p>