NYT Article-Score Choice

<p>Or they could simply say - "the SAT/Act test are socio-ecomonically biased even if they're only taken once and we won't look at them or use them."</p>

<p>I don't see that happening either.</p>

<p>See </p>

<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/harvard-university/579659-report-harvard-info-session-sunday-28-september-2008-a.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/harvard-university/579659-report-harvard-info-session-sunday-28-september-2008-a.html&lt;/a> </p>

<p>for one point of view on test scores in general as a college admission factor.</p>

<p>Still wondering what kind of system the College Board (and ACT) will have in place, to provide a different service to the colleges opting out than to the ones accepting score choice. If you designate one of the opt out colleges as a score recipient for 1 of your scores they will automatically send ALL of your scores, and ACT will do this as well? </p>

<p>More importantly, who will figure out a way around this ; ) ?</p>

<p>Google and you'll find some College Board pages showing how the system will work for students reporting scores.</p>

<p>mini: If my D had only one shot at taking the test we would have probably coughed up some money and wasted a lot of time with prep classes (like a lot of her classmates are doing). Instead, my D decided to just take the SAT and see how it would turn out. She did well enough to realize that prep classes would have been a waste of time and money. She will probably take it again one more time and then she will be done.</p>

<p>The surest way to raise enrollment in prep classes would be to allow these kids just one shot at the exams.</p>

<p>The statement you want people to sign would be worthless of course, but in addition, it fails to take into account that many high schools are teaching to the test and providing 'test prep' for students during English and Math class.</p>

<p>Your efforts to achieve social justice in the SAT realm are good but IMHO the method you suggest is impractical.</p>

<p>Not if they have to sign a binding statement that they did not enroll in prep classes. (and will some cheat? Of course! Some cheat now.)</p>

<p>mini, then everyone will cheat. How can colleges know that I lied?</p>

<p>How do they know now, other than the fact that you've just publicly admitted to it?</p>

<p>I've been told that law schools used to ask if applicants had prepared for the LSAT, but they have now given that up, as asking that question apparently didn't provide any useful information.</p>

<p><a href="http://professionals.collegeboard.com/profdownload/sat-score-choice-juniors-presentation-pdf.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://professionals.collegeboard.com/profdownload/sat-score-choice-juniors-presentation-pdf.pdf&lt;/a> </p>

<p><a href="http://professionals.collegeboard.com/profdownload/sat-score-choice.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://professionals.collegeboard.com/profdownload/sat-score-choice.pdf&lt;/a> </p>

<p>But, yeah, don't worry about it. </p>

<p>Good luck to the applicants finishing applications today.</p>

<p>"I've been told that law schools used to ask if applicants had prepared for the LSAT, but they have now given that up, as asking that question apparently didn't provide any useful information."</p>

<p>The idea is NOT to get any useful information, but to have applicants pledge on their honor, and see how many break it. ;) (I suspect that the wealthier the students are, the more likely they are to act dishonorably, simply by virtue of opportunity. Hey, there are than a few who pay others - adults - to virtually write their admissions essays now...)</p>

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<p>To my knowledge, all of the Ivies superscore, and so do all of the elite LACs. Which ones don't? </p>

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<p>Those are the rules. When you request a score report, you give permission. The College Board sends all of your scores with them on SATs and SAT IIs to date, except those received before a particular year--freshman or sophomore year of HS, I think. (They don't send AP scores unless you request them separately.) The ACT has different rules.</p>

<p>Regarding prep: the college has no way of knowing whether you spent untold hours prepping on your own, had a tutor, took a course, or just glanced over a few sample questions and walked in. Anyone can choose to prep if they want to.</p>

<p>"Those are the rules. When you request a score report, you give permission. The College Board sends all of your scores with them on SATs and SAT IIs to date, except those received before a particular year--freshman or sophomore year of HS, I think. (They don't send AP scores unless you request them separately.) The ACT has different rules."</p>

<p>Those were the rules before score choice. With score choice you only give permission for scores that you select. So how do colleges know if a student sent all of the scores?</p>

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<p>You are darned if you do and darned if you don't. You prepped? We'll have to devalue your score. You didn't prep? What kind of person wouldn't prep for one of the important pieces of their law school application?</p>