<p>They're completely different schools but they're the two I'm realy weighing. Like a lot of people of this board I got a $25,000/merit scholarship with the NYU Honors program but being from such a nice town in Texas I would like more nature and a smaller school. Additionally, from my visit I didn't really get the sense that NYU students were very focused on academics (This is a big concern for me).</p>
<p>Haverford, conversely, is very big on academics and I love the Honor Code. I'm a Quaker and the connects to Quaker ideals appeal to me as well. Haverford is also higher ranked as a liberal arts college than NYU is as a national university. I'm worried that it will be too small though and I hate to pass up the opportunities at NYU (scholarship, honors program, faculty mentoring and travel abroad).</p>
<p>If it helps I want to be an English major. I love poetry and would like to write a lot in college though for a realistic career I'm considering law focusing on human rights (maybe working with the UN in New York).</p>
<p>I'm completely torn. Your opinons would be really helpful.</p>
<p>It sounds like you really want to go to Haverford. Although I’m not sure where you getting the impression that NYU students don’t take academics seriously. Kids here study when they need to but there are always a select that get too distracted by the city and slack off. I don’t when you came to visit but classes are,for most people, Monday through thursday so thursday night through sunday kids usually go out and have fun.</p>
<p>If you want the traditional college experience go to Haverford but just know that NYC isn’t completely void of nature. Central Park during the spring and summer is pretty and really nice.</p>
<p>There will definitely be more opportunities and internships at NYU, especially considering that the UN building is here.</p>
<p>btw, comparing numbers between or among National Universities and Liberals Arts Colleges is useless, go to which ever one fits you better.</p>
<p>I really appreciate your response. I didn’t mean to insinuate that students at NYU aren’t committed to their studies, they must be doing something right, it’s a great school. I was just disappointed during my visit when my host and her roommates seemed more interested in going to the Tyra Show than doing their homework; they made it seem like school was a chore. I understand that these were only a few out of thousands of students, it was just really disappointing. When I applied to NYU I applied for a reason, I thought it was a good match for me. It is a match for me in most ways but I’m just concerned that from what I saw the academics weren’t what I was looking for.</p>
<p>What’s your experience with the school? Do you think you’re getting a good, rigorous education?</p>
<p>You can go to Haverford undergrad and NYU for graduate school… that’s what I did.</p>
<p>Have you visited Haverford?</p>
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<p>Just driving back the long road that leads to campus, you’ll be transported from suburbia to nature. Although NYU is excellent in writing arts, you’ll not be disappointed with Haverford’s English program. Faculty is world-class, accessible, and to my knowledge there are no TAs. You can’t go wrong with 'Ford.</p>
<p>Yes, Haverford is small, but you do have the advantage of being able to take classes at Bryn Mawr, which is only a short distance away. There is also the possibility of taking classes at Swarthmore, which is a little bit of a hassle but there’s a shuttle that runs regularly and a number of Haverford students do this yearly. The tri-college consortium helps enlarge the school but make no mistake, it’s still small. Haverford is a wonderful school and you will get a fabulous undergraduate education there.</p>
<p>These comments are really helpful. The thing is, I feel really bad giving up the opportunity at NYU. Also, can anyone explain the Quaker Consortium? I was actually unaware of this program when I applied but it seems really interesting. Thank you all so much again for your comments.</p>
<p>You can take classes at Bryn Mawr, Swat and Penn (including Wharton). If you go, you would likely take some classes at Bryn Mawr, you could even major there. Registering for classes at Bryn Mawr is easy, it’s only a mile away and there’s a shuttle. Swat and Penn are doable but not as convenient as Bryn Mawr. Regarding your original post, you can, of course, study abroad if you go to Haverford.</p>
<p>notmacbeth, are those your only two options? You did not apply to any small LACs that offer merit scholarships? </p>
<p>I’d lean strongly towards Haverford, but $25K/year is a lot of money to pass up especially when you consider that NYU also is a good school, and NYC is such an interesting environment. </p>
<p>I’m aware of one Quaker meeting in Manhattan. As I recall it is easily accessible from Greenwich Village, if that helps. Whenever nature beckons, well, there is always Central Park.</p>
<p>My D, a HS junior, is planning to apply to Haverford and Bryn Mawr in part because of the unique opportunities presented by the Quaker Consortium. Students at both Haverford and Bryn Mawr (“the Bi-Co”) take classes on the other campus all the time; the two schools have a unified course registration system, they coordinate class schedules to facilitate cross-registrations (I believe classes start on the hour at BMC and on the half hour at Haverford so you can finish a class at one school and have plenty of time to catch the 5-minute shuttle to the other school for your next class), some majors are shared (e.g., both BMC and Haverford students take music at Haverford and theater at Bryn Mawr), the meal plans are integrated so a simple card swipe gets you lunch or dinner on the other campus, many ECs are joint, and you can even take your major at the other school or live in the dorms at the other school (within limits, as BMC is women only). So in many ways these two schools are almost like two halves of a single school, and anyone considering either should take a close look at the curricular offerings at the other to get a better sense of what’s available to them.</p>
<p>Students at Haverford and Bryn Mawr can also take any class at Swarthmore and vice versa—this is called the “Tri-Co.” But Swarthmore is a good 20 to 25 minutes away from BMC and Haverford by shuttle, so these cross-registrations are much less frequent. Typically a Haverford or Bryn Mawr student might take 1 or 2 courses at Swarthmore in their entire four years, usually in something that’s not offered at Haverford or Bryn Mawr, e.g., linguistics; and because a mid-morning or mid-afternoon class that far away can effectively take up 3 class hours once you figure in travel time, scheduling can be an issue. Bryn Mawr students we talked to said they mostly took late afternoon or evening classes at Swat to minimize the disruption in their schedules.</p>
<p>Haverford, Bryn Mawr, and Swarthmore students can also take classes at Penn but there’s a little more red tape involved. I believe generally students at the Tri-Co LACs can only take classes at Penn if the course is not offered at one of the LACs (though the exact rules might vary from school to school). This is nonetheless attractive for some students like my D, who would much prefer to be at a small, intimate LAC but also has ambitions to study some less-commonly-taught languages (e.g., Portuguese and Hindi) that are taught at very few if any LACs. Penn’s language programs are superb, but I’ve also heard of students from the Tri-Co taking certain advanced math classes, engineering, finance, archeology, linguistics, and other specialized and/or advanced courses that are often not available at LACs. Penn is about a 20-minute train ride from any of the Tri-Co LACs (plus a short walk to & from the station on either end), but again scheduling can be an issue for mid-day classes.</p>
<p>All in all, though, the Quaker Consortium combines rather remarkable curricular possibilities with the intimacy of a small college experience.</p>
<p>If you get 25K at NYU and zero at Haverford. I would go to NYU easily. Haverford isn’t work 100K extra over 4 yrs.</p>
<p>Have you seen Haverford’s “What’s It Like To Go To Haverford?” videos?</p>
<p>[Haverford</a> College Office of Admission: Admission Videos](<a href=“http://www.haverford.edu/admission/videos/]Haverford”>http://www.haverford.edu/admission/videos/)</p>
<p>These are a great introduction to what life at Haverford is like.</p>