<p>Any ideas about a good school for double majoring in oboe performance and music education?</p>
<p>A lot will depend on your focus, be it performance or music education, and your current level of competitiveness, both musically and academically.</p>
<p>Music ed is most cost effective at an instate program, but for a conservatory level player considering a combined performance/ed track, it makes sense to investigate privates and out of state publics as well. </p>
<p>I’ve posted numerous times on music ed, and you can search the forum. Some oboe specific threads are here:</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/501216-school-music-major-oboe.html?highlight=oboe[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/501216-school-music-major-oboe.html?highlight=oboe</a>
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/268644-oboe-college-conservatory.html?highlight=oboe[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/268644-oboe-college-conservatory.html?highlight=oboe</a>
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/221261-need-safety-choice-accomplished-oboe.html?highlight=oboe[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/221261-need-safety-choice-accomplished-oboe.html?highlight=oboe</a>
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/147260-oboe-programs-performance-major.html?highlight=oboe[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/147260-oboe-programs-performance-major.html?highlight=oboe</a></p>
<p>Without knowing a bit more of your level, training and musical background, any number of programs may or may not fit.</p>
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<p>She is a pretty proficient player. Plays in band and two orchestras in school, two outside youth orchestras and in a number of chamber groups. She is concerned that a conservatory will be too focused on performance and she is leaning towards education with performance rather than performance with education. </p>
<p>Any thoughts on the conservatory vs university route?</p>
<p>If you want to be a music education major with performance on the side, in my opinion, you would do best with a program noted for music education and preferably in the state in which you plan to teach. That way, you will have fulfilled all of the certification requirements. Also, you need to know that fulfilling music education degree requirements is very exhaustive. Most students who chose to do both education and performance take five years (or at least one additional semester) to complete the requirements for both. A performance major is required to be in an ensemble for four full years at most places. A music ed major is excused from this requirement during the student teaching term at many schools. I’m not sure how you could do both the term you are student teaching.</p>
<p>I would agree that a state university with a well regarded music education program should at least be looked at. I know that you can get a music ed/performance degree at Peabody (a conservatory). At NEC, it’s a cobbled together process that is not easy to attain…it’s not their area of expertise. </p>
<p>One thing…most public universities would be thrilled to have a fine oboe player to place in one of their ensembles.</p>
<p>Oberlin has a BM performance track coupled with an MM in education, it’s a five year program. Hartt has a dual major (BM) in performance/ed, and it is a designated five year program. Both have reknowned oboe faculty. You might want to look at schools along the lines of Ithaca, Lawrence, Temple, Drake, Duquesne, Vanderbilt, and others. I’m not sure if a dual pursuit is available at Eastman; they do offer both majors separately. </p>
<p>The strict conservatories Juilliard, Manhattan, Colburn, Mannes, NEC do not list a BM in education (to my knowledge). As thumper says, if there is one, it tends to be under the radar. I would not dispute the use of the term “cobbled”. </p>
<p>Publics worth a serious look for top performers include IU Jacobs, UMich, Penn State, SUNYs Potsdam or Fredonia.</p>
<p>A recent thread on the conservatory route, and there are others. Spend some time here looking around, as there is a ton of information and insights.
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/721734-how-do-you-figure-out-whether-conservatory-right-you.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/721734-how-do-you-figure-out-whether-conservatory-right-you.html</a></p>
<p>Son was a performance/ed major at Hartt, and opted out of the ed VERY late in the process, as his first love is performance and did not wish to teach within a public school setting. It’s important to know the distinction, focus and drives between the two pursuits. They can be compatible for some, but many who start out drop one or the other, for any number of reasons. </p>
<p>Try the search this forum button, advanced search, and use “music ed” or “music education” as the criteria, and select search titles only. There are 3-4 pages under each, and you’ll get quite a bit of experience and suggestions, along with some school specific options and program detail.</p>
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<p>I’m probably too late now, but I graduated from Lawrence University with a degree in oboe and I can’t possibly recommend the school or Howard Niblock enough. Email me for details.</p>
<p>I just posted something pretty similar in another thread, but why not major just in music education? Nobody’s going to stop you from practicing like a performance major while getting an ed degree, and many schools don’t have a large number of performance-specific courses. I don’t know if some schools limit a student’s ensemble choice if he or she majors in education, but the schools I’ve dealt with put players in ensembles as they audition, not with a preference to performance majors. Similarly, I think the practice of giving shorter lessons to ed majors is gone from most schools these days. </p>
<p>The one sticking point that I can think of is difficulty in scheduling the same number of recitals a performance major might be required to play, if one were so inclined, but there are usually churches that allow musicians a place to play.</p>