October 2010 - International SAT

<p>@music, I’m not sure. a lot of other people put guilt so that could go either way. :/</p>

<p>Writing section #9: I put do as well cuz the subjects were plural (even though it had either inbetween)</p>

<p>Yes, it’s error in judgment.</p>

<p>the curve for this test will be quite harsh, I suspect.
5 wrong ----> 700 probably</p>

<p>Anyone remember the answer for “salt as a commodity” question for section 10?
And the one about egyptian exhibition???</p>

<p>@nonono
SC: Do you remember what the contexts of #2, 6, and 10 are?
Can’t be complex and involved. Both blanks are adjectives, and involved means “very intricate or complex.” Some people argue it’s suitable, but I still believe it’s straightforward?</p>

<p>Short passage 2: love letter</p>

<h1>2 Universal truth about human behavior or something (not pattern)</h1>

<p>Long passage 1: frost</p>

<h1>6 =</h1>

<h1>7 = reference to tower confirmed author’s thesis about Frost’s genuine character</h1>

<p>Long passage 2: japanese family</p>

<h1>4: are you sure? what were the other options</h1>

<p>Long passage: garden</p>

<h1>11 what were the other options</h1>

<p>Section 8 Reading: Voting passage</p>

<h1>6 wasn’t it negative connotation with the words or something?</h1>

<p>bingo… all match except two
i put ‘originality’ instead of ‘versatility’
the last passage i marked ‘theoritical necessity’ instead of 'artificial construct</p>

<p>for the writing either question
is it either do or either does? </p>

<p>also… what was the answer for writing # 14 about the salt and expanding empire? </p>

<p>i put “versatile” for the botanist passage
and “artificial construct” for the political one …</p>

<p>Here are my answers to what someone posted on page 19:</p>

<p>Reading

  1. About the Japanese mother: the smell of the tomatoes mentioned by the women represents… what? past memories something ??
    I put that there was an unpleasant experience. The reason: the girl narrating the story said that she “couldn’t believe that one could hate sth so pleasant” and redolent, implying that the Japanese woman loathed and exasperated by the redundancy of picking tomatoes, hence the smell acting as a reminder of this sentiment.</p>

<ol>
<li><p>Politics Passage: “views” in Passage 2 would be thought by Converse(the guy in Passage 1) as … susceptible to inherent lack of internal coherency OR based on Belief Systems?
Yes, inherent lack of internal coherency</p></li>
<li><p>Frost Interview: The significance of letters published after his death … proves that author is right about Frost’s genuine character OR shows Frost’s deep hate against critics?
Frost’s genuine character. I believe there were multiple questions regarding Frost’s persona being indicative of his genuine character, hence the answers being all similar.</p></li>
<li><p>Gardening (Charlie) Passage: “Rock eats stones” - rhetorical device… to introduce a new topic OR provide shocking fact to tell something?
I put “unconventional way of beginning of scientific process.” It seemed too literal and rhetorical, since the narrator used worlds like the glacier “pulverized” the bedrock, and such.
I might be wrong on this one, because I rushed this section.</p></li>
<li><p>Japanese mother passage: last part–what does it reveal about the narrator? is it guilt OR fear of being punished?
Neither. The answer was the narrator “recognized an error in her judgment”. She thought that her mother would love to have the box, but she realized later that her mother would scold her and be “disappointed”.</p></li>
<li><p>politics: what would passage 1 view about the line “they were often not philosophers” in passage 2? crass exaggeration OR unnecessarily provocative?
Crass exaggeration; this was a difficult one, but I relied on the sentence right after the philosopher line: “They portrayed the citizens as dolts.” This is undeniably crass, and much too offensive to portray the implications of Passage 1, which focused on the arbitrary and inconsistent aspects of opinions toward politics.</p></li>
<li><p>Vocab: mechanics – didn’t anyone write complex&involved? it was something like because it was complex, self-mechanics cannot handle anything more involved than simple things …
Yes, the logic behind it --although awkward-- only makes sense when it is “complex & involved.” The question said that the “mechanics could not do anything more _____ than basic repairs”, meaning that the blank should be sth to do with difficult activity. Straightforward and suitable do not make any sense.</p></li>
</ol>

<p>@Carsonpwns:

  • Yes, i put negative connotation as well; to “herd” people is insulting and condescending.</p>

<ul>
<li><p>One of the hardest questions that has some dispute: For the “abstract” question on the voters passage, was it artificial construct, theoretical necessity, or tentative hypothesis?
I put tentative hypothesis, but construct may work too.</p></li>
<li><p>For vocab in context, I put “extent” as the answer for gauging the “degree” of Frost. Correct?</p></li>
</ul>

<p>All of the answers you guys discussed are right, including but not limited to:

  • elusive
  • vituperation
  • pulverize
  • model, NOT facsimile
  • inquisition
  • foreign NOT indigenous
  • central to the meaning NOT peripheral
  • overwrought
  • uneasiness
  • universal truth
  • all the math answers (duh)</p>

<p>Writing (section 10):

  1. The pyramid question regarding the thousands of visitors coming due to the exhibit: I’m not sure but I think the active tense was more parallel so the answer was C or sth like that. It was NOT the choice, therefore, with “with visitors in the thousands”.</p>

<ol>
<li>The penultimate question regarding the “either does/do” was “do”. The “either” comparison is not always singular: in this case, the “bicycles” were plural.</li>
</ol>

<p>Writing (other sections):

  • I wasn’t sure about the Washington Carver one where #35 asked: “Which sentence will serve as the best transition to the last sentence?”
    There was one choice about the “farmers implementing the agricultural methods” and one about “Even now, these methods are still in use”. Which one did you guys pick and why?</p>

<ul>
<li><p>Identifying the sentence error: “the business firm assumed that there has been no funding until today, when in fact it was available since last week.” I put no error, which is why I got three E’s, but “has been” seems awkward in retrospect. Any grammar Nazi’s here?</p></li>
<li><p>Model of comedy programs should be: hmm, this was hard but I said that there was nothing wrong with “should be”</p></li>
<li><p>Yes, “documentaries, there is something for everyone”</p></li>
<li><p>There was something about “for style” in the sentence error identification. I picked that as an error.</p></li>
</ul>

<p>A further note:
Fellow OP’s, please try not to mention the dummy sections; it’s hard enough to remember the non experimental questions themselves, and its confusing when I read answers of sections I never got.</p>

<p>Sentence completion
duplicitous
facsimile/model
sth about the effect of style to meaning of poetry: …/central</p>

<p>botanist
1.
2. i chose original (likely to be wrong) =.=</p>

<p>Frost
a question about find the similar word
in the passge: gauge…(the word)… is similar to extent right?</p>

<p>japanese passage </p>

<p>“those are mine” …?</p>

<p>Garden long passage
friendly but frustrated </p>

<p>voting passage
i dont think passage 2 introduce a new perspective but denounced a well established research method</p>

<p>Josh- Yes that’s super harsh :(</p>

<p>I hope error in judgement is right. I dont think it’s fear of being punished. </p>

<p>So you guys dont know which writing’s experimental? I hope it’s the latter :/</p>

<p>And i put bellicose not overwraguht. And genuine something for the friend minerals one not humorous skepticism</p>

<p>@djp

  • Identifying the sentence error: “the business firm assumed that there has been no funding until today, when in fact it was available since last week.”</p>

<p>Not a grammar Nazi, but i’m pretty sure “has been” should be “had been”</p>

<ul>
<li>“they were often not philosophers” in passage 2? crass exaggeration OR unnecessarily provocative?</li>
</ul>

<p>Really? I thought it was it grossly undermined when viewed by the author of passage 1.</p>

<ul>
<li>foreign NOT indigenous</li>
<li>central to the meaning NOT peripheral</li>
</ul>

<p>What were the contexts of these vocabs? I really can’t remember ):</p>

<p>But besides that, nice consolidated list :)</p>

<p>edit: yeah, degree = extent</p>

<p>@musiclover
The writing WITHOUT Washington and peanuts is experimental.</p>

<p>Sentence completion about a poetry’s style and its meaning: central (something) and subordinate</p>

<p>any one with “model” in the sentence completion??? =.= it seems to be a too easy word for SAT but any other words seem to be unfit =.=</p>

<p>and the question after the “inquisition” one, I couldn’t remember exactly the word but it’s quite a hard one =(</p>

<p>Garden passage : “ground” =?</p>

<p>@Carsonpwns:</p>

<p>Writing:
Care to elaborate on why it should be “had been”? I tried to approach it via grammatical coherence and I can’t seem to get it.</p>

<p>Reading:
Yeah, I considered the ‘grossly undermined’ one too at first (since he was against passage 2), but the author of passage 1 didn’t come off as that offensive. His point was more of the lack of connectivity and consistency within the opinions of the citizenry.<br>
In addition, if I learned anything from prep classes, it was that extreme answers should be discouraged. Grossly means totally/extremely/completely so naturally, I rejected that answer choice.
Provocative is another plausible answer choice… fack.</p>

<p>@janny: please read my post before you fire away answers that were already finalized. I’m a bit anxious right now, so excuse my haste, but I really want to explore other questions or discuss the controversial ones. And yes, pulverize was correct.</p>

<p>Wait i can’t seem to remember which one that is. Is the one with markedly increase and dimnishing something, or the one with popcorn?</p>

<p>Guys, read previous posts before posting them…
Yes janny, clocks = model
ground = pulverize</p>

<p>@musiclover</p>

<p>markedly increasing something and rapid diminishing returns (which should be rapidly) as the second last error ID, yes</p>

<p>@djp
“the business firm assumed that there has been no funding until today, when in fact it was available since last week”</p>

<p>since the business firm is assuming something in the past, you should be using the past perfect? at least that’s how i tackled this problem. and cuz it sounded really weird with has been =P</p>

<p>nah i don’t think it would be provocative (though i didn’t find any reason to cross it out). Yeah, i felt “grossly” was a bit extreme, but wouldn’t “crass” be a bit as well?</p>

<p>was the model of comedy programs error id #23 or something? if so, i put NE too</p>

<p>@djp2012:

  • The best transition question I think the answer is “farmers implementing the agricultural methods” since after that they said Washington Carver fulfilled his plan of spreading his method or something like that.
  • The SC with foreign and indigenous I chose the latter and I was pretty sure of that, do you remember the sentence?</p>

<p>hey</p>

<p>can someone please remember the question where everyone is saying vituperative was correct</p>

<p>i remember it as one of the options for the last sentence completion in one of the sections, but i think i put sagacity for that one?</p>

<p>anyone what was the correct answer/ why?</p>

<p>@Carsonpwns:</p>

<p>Yeah, I see what you’re saying. “was available” means that it was available in the past for one instance, meaning it should be a completed action, hence “had been”. Thanks!</p>

<p>Hmm, perhaps less extreme? Arguable, either way; so these are the controversial questions that I came up with:

  1. the reaction of passage 1 to 2: crass exaggeration vs. grossly undermined
  2. the “abstract” question on the voter passages: tentative hypothesis vs. artificial construct.</p>

<p>The word artificial bothers me. Tentative hypothesis seems more based on the fact that it was a guess or conjecture based on the general public, since the individual’s opinions were acting as representatives.</p>

<p>And yes, it was NE for the “model of comedy programs should be” question.</p>