% of Andover going Ivy

<p>Whats the %s like? Where do you need to be placed etc for a academically good mark for HYPSM? Like top 5%? </p>

<p>And whats the GPA breakdown of schools at these places?</p>

<p>Cheers</p>

<p>I heard (from the alumna who interviewed me) that the top 20% of people in top boarding schools get into Ivy League schools. Apparently, their view of the matter is if one has such great resources at hand, they should be taking full use of it.</p>

<p>top 15 schools usually have like 20 - 25 % students who go to very good universities</p>

<p>seikuu, that is not true. Yes, 20% or more of each class goes to an Ivy or similar but it is absolutely not the top 20% of the class. That 20% is instead comprised of legacies, urms, first gen, and perhaps the top 3% of the class. It may be that schools and their interviewers do not want to admit it, but the students know.</p>

<p>Obviously, if 20% go to an Ivy, it won't necessarily be the top 20....that would be quite a coincidence that they all wanted an Ivy. Don't forget athletes.</p>

<p>Shore - questions & keylyme are right! We should count all the athletes, legacies, urms, first gen, special talent ........<br>
That's why there are threads about stay at good public high with good GPA (above 4.0) will have more chance to Ivies.</p>

<p>hmm, and will Andover students who are at the middle of the pack be getting a lower GPA then if they were topping a public high? </p>

<p>20% seems very high. Perhaps excessive but to me, its music to my ears atm. But top 3%. How many people in a year at Andover? (lol, I'm going this fall and know zilch about anything including how to spell MA!)</p>

<p>This year's graduating class and its college numbers for ivies:
Total: 307 Seniors</p>

<p>Yale - 15
Princeton - 13
UPenn - 13
Harvard - 10
Columbia - 8
Dartmouth - 7
Brown - 6
Cornell - 5</p>

<p>This equates to 77/307, or essentially exactly 25%</p>

<p>In addition, there are others who picked stanford, amherst, williams, duke over the ivies. </p>

<p>Some other numbers at top schools:
Stanford - 15
Georgetown - 11
Duke - 11
Hopkins - 7
Wesleyan - 6
Amherst - 5</p>

<p>Last year (2007) they sent 22 to Harvard. There is a big change this year, only 10 to Harvard? (10 is big enough for other schools). Why?</p>

<p>I don't think there was any reason in particular. Last year only 8 were accepted to Princeton, this year 22 were. It just goes in cycles with what type of students colleges are looking for and the type we produce.</p>

<p>How many at Andover get 4.0 GPAs?</p>

<p>The GPA scale at Andover is different from most schools. The highest you can get is a 6, and less than one percent actually achieve it.</p>

<p>My midwest private high school sent about 20% to top ten schools and another 20% to top 25 schools.</p>

<p>sugerkim, less then 1% get a 6 or straight 6s? That would look really bad on the transcript when you get 5s out of 6s and other students at other schools get 3.97s etc on their GPA.</p>

<p>EDIT: And also, when they change the mark back to a GPA then how many people would get 4.0s?</p>

<p>See, the thing is that every school will know the Andover grading scale. In addition, a chart with the GPA distributions of Andover students will be included with your college applications. Generally, people with a 5 GPA at Andover or above are able to go to one of their top choices - the average is close to a 4.5.</p>

<p>Average is 4.5 out of 6 at Andover? So a 5.0 would be a 3.8 in GPA or something like that?</p>

<p>Comparing to Exeter - this year</p>

<p>class of 329 - fifteen harvard, fourteen yale, eight princeton, overall 74 ivies, plus three oxford (school pride cheer!), one cambridge, seven (I believe) stanford, and five MITs, or thereabouts.</p>

<p>But this is certainly not the "top 20%" of the class academically. Several early inducted members into the cum laude society (the top 5 percent), were disappointed in the end. (although - a disproportionate number is going to Yale, and two of us are heading to Oxford), while a good portion of traditionally-prestigious-college admits were not necessarily inducted in the cum laude society in the spring (the top 20%). This imbalance, perhaps more prevalent than other years, caused a fair bit of resentment among the members of the senior class, although 2008 - we just graduated yesterday! - is known for being quite a "good," close class.</p>

<p>hmm, so even if you're top 5% at Exeter or Andover, you might be rejected. How many people ajadedidealist would you say had their academics carry them? Like for example if you're valedictorian at either Philips surely you'll get into HYPSM?</p>

<p>Well, anyone might be rejected, of course, but there is no reason at all for paranoia. Almost everyone gets into a great school - whether their first choice or no - and gets a fine collegiate education, and, while grades themselves are no guarantee - nor, indeed, is anything - they do certainly play a large role in the process. One of the greatest things about boarding school is that it does demystify the college craze - a few days in April aside, there is a healthy dose of sanity coming from the college counseling system and funneling through to the students about the proceedings. Everything will, indeed, turn out fine.</p>

<p>My cousin was Cum Laude at Deerfield, got rejected at his favorites. Is debating between Brown, Duke, Johns Hopkins or Vanderbilt next year. Just because you get rejected from Yale and Harvard doesn't mean you don't have equally amazing opportunities!</p>