<p>^^Exactly. That’s why I laugh at people who actually retake AP exams.</p>
<p>^ me too lololol. When i was a sophomore I cared because I got screwed over with my exams, but then I remembered that it doesn’t matter. Brown offers minimal credit for AP/IB anyway lol</p>
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<p>As I keep explaining, this is not true. They aren’t as important as the other standardized tests, but they do matter in admissions.</p>
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<p>This is not a subjective issue; there are not two correct sides. My information comes from dozens of admissions officers, all of whom echoed each other in this respect.</p>
<p>^ Why are you so mad about stupid AP scores silverturtle? They don’t. They really really don’t my brother worked in an admission office…</p>
<p>and silver turtle, we keep repeating opposing views. Do you not think I did my research too? That I didn’t ask admission officers? I’ve been on this site for 4 years now gathering information over the years from various sites/people. My posts are not flawed. I got into Brown for a reason. I did my research. I worked hard. One test is a terrible way to decide a decision on. It’s not like the SAT or ACT where you can take it once every couple months.</p>
<p>It’s not right to make kids think that these exams will ‘make or break’ their applications. It won’t.</p>
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You’re wrong in the above post. Say that a student receives low-mid 90s in an AP class and then gets a 3 or a 2 on the exam. Or vice versa, low grades and then suddenly a 4-5. Admissions officers will wonder why this happened. Why do you think the common App requires you to put your AP scores on it rather than just the AP testes you took? And in your post two above this one, you didnt get into Brown by researching colleges and talking to admission officers ■■■■■. Although you are right about AP scores making an application, they certainly can contribute to breaking it.</p>
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<p>The premise of your question is unsupported and incorrect.</p>
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<p>The inconsistency between what you are saying and what dozens of admissions officers have uniformly said makes me think that you have not done sufficient research.</p>
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<p>I congratulate you on your great accomplishment, but an acceptance does not indicate that one understands admissions at all, let alone the very specific point that we are arguing.</p>
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<p>I have repeatedly conveyed that AP exams are not very important relative to most of the other factors that are evaluated; please do not skew my stance.</p>
<p>ap scores are almost insignificant… unless you want credit. Of course you can hunt for an incident where they are significant, but they really won’t make or break it, unless you are just plain stupid :eek:. It would turn heads if you get like A+s in your AP classes, but all 1’s. But even then, even if you don’t take the test, colleges don’t care. Colleges just care that you took a rigorous class in high school and survived it with good grades. Now, if you want credit, take the exam and get a 5. in the long run, the only thing that colleges care about are sat scores, gpa, recs, integrity, personality and character, and recs.</p>
<p>wow silverturtle… they play little to no impact at all. I really don’t believe your so called ‘dozens of admission officers’ because I’m 100% aware that it isn’t true. Way to start a fight on the ‘official AP scores thread’</p>
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<p>Are you changing your position? You have thus far seemed confident that they play no role.</p>
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<p>I have no incentive to lie and no way of assuring you.</p>
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<p>I would not characterize this as a fight.</p>
<p>Okay a debate. No, i’m not changing my position. If a school DECIDES to make it count, they can. None of us are behind the scenes. I really think that you’re misinformed. I truly believe that. Have you noticed no one else agrees with you except for those who are new to AP? It’s ridiculous because the way you’re coming across makes it sound like AP scores are just as important as, say, your SAT scores or your recommendations. They aren’t used for admissions or at least this is what colleges tell us. If you had e-mails or something, I would apologize, but I’m sure you’re wrong. Taking the class and the grade you receive is much more important, especially since APs are self-recorded.</p>
<p>swim2daend, silverturtle acknowledges that they have little impact, but there is some impact. Colleges want to see that you challenge yourself with a rigorous curriculum, but it is important that you succeed in your endeavors. Standardized testing allows them to gauge the true difficulty of your curriculum. It is, therefore, absurd to say that AP scores have no bearing on admissions.</p>
<p>saying that AP scores play any impact in admissions at all unless there is an absolute dead tie between two applicants and that’s the only final fair way to decide is ridiculous. I’m done with this, though. It’s just not important enough to me lol</p>
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<p>I tend to not notice things that do not exist; so no, I have not noticed that. (That is, your observation is incorrect.)</p>
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<p>Please quote an instance of my communicating that idea. I have, in contrast, repeatedly indicated that they are not as important as most other factors. You are skewing my stance by hiding behind the subjectively inferential language of “coming across.”</p>
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<p>This is not what they have told me. It is theoretically possible that all of those admissions officers were lying to me; and if I discover that to be the case, I will of course revise my stance. I have no bias toward one position.</p>
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<p>As are EC’s, yet they manage to have quite an impact.</p>
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<p>I recall having seen a similar statement by silverturtle a few pages ago. If it’s gotten to the point that silverturtle has to correct the same point over and over again, then the argument is overtired. Let’s face it: not everyone is capable of listening and learning.</p>
<p>Though I know this post will most likely be ignored, I am sufficiently bored to write it anyway. However, I will say this: met dlo nan diven ou, mon fr</p>
<p>^ idk what that means, but I agree about this being over played. Over the past week I’ve been getting so annoyed at silverturtle saying that they mattered. The amount of times he/she has posted it easily makes it seem as if he/she thinks it’s major weight. With all other more important factors, why even consider AP exam scores. Theoretically, yes they can be used for admission. Let’s leave it at that and bring back what this thread is used for.</p>
<p>I kind of have to agree, because I’m sure most people will only self-report their AP scores. I also think that a 5 ultimately has a huge impact on admissions, what about a 4 or 3? Not the best score, but it’s still passing. Now it makes me feel bad that I got a 4 :(.</p>
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<p>Your level of concern over the matter is surprising.</p>
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<p>That’s a rather illogical connection.</p>
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<p>The amount of times he posted his point does not mean that he thinks AP scores carry a lot of weight in admissions; rather, it indicates the number of times you have posted erroneous assertions.</p>
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<p>It’s an idiomatic phrase. I inserted it just because. However, it most closely translates into “calm the F@#$ down.”</p>
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<p>Yes, let’s.</p>
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<p>I don’t know how anyone can say exactly how much weight they hold. There’s nothing more than anecdotes to go off of. My counselor called Brown, Vanderbilt, and Wesleyan to ask if they wanted AP scores to be sent separately since applicants at my school don’t include their scores on their CommonApp (we’re all instructed to just leave that area blank and solely include the testing date), and these schools said that the scores can be sent to the school at a later date (if the student is accepted) if the school gives credit for the exam. Obviously, 4’s and 5’s look great, but, at least with Brown, I felt like they were looking more at the student’s performance in the class over the exam scores. Especially since they’re stingy with giving AP credit.</p>
<p>But then again, there’s no way to know 100%.</p>