Official 4/1 SAT -- TWO Full Writing Sections Only

<p>nice explanation. I had (A) for that oen too, but i know a lot of people who did the other one. it's really a tossup. but i think i (and you) are right.</p>

<p>see, yes the passage didn't give any examples of how public opinion was circumvented by scientists and philosophers, but they never gave examples to show that they act autonomously, did they? and would the scientists/philos. find it amusing if they had circumvented public opinion? an argument could be made for both</p>

<p>Well, my reasoning for them finding it amusing is that it wouldn't be normal.</p>

<p>Scientist A: Hey, the public says we have to make findings according to their opinion.</p>

<p>Scientist B: That's totally wack, we never do that! I'm amused . . . </p>

<p>I just figured it was simpler to extrapolate that the scientists weren't fettered by public opinion in the status quo, and would find it funny if they suddenly were told to be, therefore they were granted autonomy.</p>

<p>As for the lack of examples of granting autonomy, I just made an inference. I think it's reasonable to infer that the public lets them act autonomously because the scientists would find it funny if it were any other way. I think it's less reasonable to infer that they are showing public opinion could be circumvented--I think the author has more of a point in the other choice. In the context of the passage, implying that the public grants more autonomy to certain occupations just makes more sense; you have to look at what's being advocated overall.</p>

<p>Though, I think it's a really hard question, I'll be ****ed if I'm wrong, your doubts are very legitimate. I'm glad I'm not the only one that put that answer, though. :)</p>

<p>yeah, i agree w/ you, but i'm just saying couldn't the scientists have thought it's funny that they're being forced to publish findings a certain way because they HAD circumvented the public? </p>

<p>i think they would find it funny either way. That's all i'm saying.</p>

<p>see here's why this question is so bad. the two choices are (paraphrased): circumvented and autonomy. Well, if you circumvent something then aren't you autonomous? I mean really. They're not mutually exclusive answers, damnit.</p>

<p>yeah, your statement makes a lot of sense. This question I orginally picked B, then I quickly returned and picked A. I had nowhere near this much time to actually think about it . . . I went on impulse. I think SAT wants us to pick the more 'direct' answer, whichever one you have to justify less. Haha, this, ladies and gentlemen, is why CR has the most lenient curve. :)</p>

<p>yeah but i bet writing will be more lenient this time. or at least really close.</p>

<p>I would have to say A is more direct...because for B you'd have to do two thought processes:
1) That scientists were granted autonomy.
2) if 1) is true, then that means they somehow circumvented that.</p>

<p>With A, you only have to do 1).</p>

<p>Remember the really short passage about ancient ruins of some middle east place (2 qns i think)? It talked about camels, and the locals... what was the mood/tone (can't remember). I picked evocative.</p>

<p>For the aunt one, I think it went like this:</p>

<p>Because there always had been good relations between my aunt and I, I frequently call her to do joint projects together.</p>

<p>I picked 'had been' as wrong.</p>

<p>Yeah, I remember that passage. I put evocative too.</p>

<p>But for that sentence, I chose "between my aunt and I" as incorrect. "I" should be replaced with "me"</p>

<p>I used the 'me' option as well. That one is definately wrong by the rules of grammar. The tense thing is questionable.</p>

<p>In the passage it directly states that scientists and philosophers were not too long ago in a state similar to that of artists. (I'm almost positive on this) And I am pretty damn positive that it was the answer choice regarding autonomy was the right one. </p>

<p>Also on the passage of African Marriages- one of the questions is phrased like this "In lines Xx-xy the view presented correlates with which of the following:
-Western Anthropologists' Views
-Zengele (the Daughter I believe)
(these lines related to a girl selling herself for five thousand pounds)
I ended up Zengele- but I was later told that the answer was Anthropologists.
Does anyone care to explain this one to me?</p>

<p>Also there were two short passages on Coleridge (sp?) and one of the questions asked what the two authors agreed upon-- did the correct answer happen to be that they thought Coleridge didn't use his full talent.</p>

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<p>Also if the answer to the CR first mentioned in this post is right- I would find it very likely that the "adversarial" question be correct as well.</p>

<p>you spelled coleridge right. If the question about zengele that you're thuinking of is the one i'm thinking of (and i'm 95.67% sure it is) then the answer was anthropologists. at least that's what i put. but that was A REALLY hard one. you shouldn't be mad you got that one wrong, if you did.<br>
i think you got the coleridge one right</p>

<p>Thanks... I swear that question could have gone both ways.... :(</p>

<p>Oh, and about the Zenele passage, there was a question about whether the family selling the girl for 5000 whatever was either: 1. financial gain compromising dignity or 2. legalistic (not exact word) adherence to customs etc. can't remember.</p>

<p>I chose the first one, because it asked what the narrator i.e. mother would think of that.</p>

<p>Since this is the writing thread for the sections I got, I'd like to ask about no errors for this particular set: So far I got 2 no errors, one was "the director said she would speak at the next meeting" and another was later in the section, perhaps the 3rd or 4th last of the identifying errors section.</p>

<p>timepiece can't say i remember that director question or the zenzele one</p>

<p>how many no errors did you get though? (on the identifying errors part only)</p>

<p>well timepiece let me try to answer your ? again. it's definitely NOT number 1 because the mother would not think of it as financial gain compromising dignity. the passage clearly states that the mother things following the customs is upholding dignity and not compromising it. if anything, it's the second choice, but i'm not sure</p>

<p>i'd say about 2, MAYBE 3 but i'm pretty sure two (we're talking about section 7 right? the one that counted?)</p>

<p>Um, I didn't have experimental writing, I had a long one (35 qns) then a short one later on.</p>

<p>I can't really remember exactly what the Zenele passage said or the question, so any help from someone who does remember would be nice.</p>

<p>^Im guessing your talking about the african mother and the lobola?</p>

<p>but out of those two choices u gave above im not sure what i picked on the test but out of those two it would be number 2</p>