**OFFICIAL** AP Chemistry 2013 Thread

<p>There have been multiple threads discussing when the curve is determined. I say it’s determined after the fact. </p>

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<p>I would assume its after the fact, that’s the point of it, but I still don’t understand how they give partial credit.
I know with incorrect numerical values you get full credit for one part of the credit, but what about justifications–correct justifications to an incorrect number.</p>

<p>@jonhs123 on many of the past FRQs for justification questions worth 1 point each, you need the correct answer as well as the proper justification for the full credit point.</p>

<p>Do I still get credit if I set the equation up correctly with the numbers all in order and then I punched them into my calculator wrong and got a wrong final answer??? or is that no credit? I agree with everyone that these free response questions were definitely super hard. Especially #3. I felt like the reactions were average, and the multiple choice was average. Hopefully if you all are right, and the curve is determined after the fact, there will be a generous one.</p>

<p>Guys for the FRQ, say I got like 1.11g but the answer was 1.12g, would I get the point or not? This isn’t an answer to a question on the test, I’m just using a random number as an example.</p>

<p>If their answer is “1.10g OR 1.11g” then you don’t get the point. But you usually get these right.</p>

<p>@upsilon, that makes sense, the grading criteria sometimes states (for longer problems or in which the justification could go either way), that if you write the justification down correctly to match the answer you get credit, but the grading criteria for previous ones are hard to follow. </p>

<p>@superninja, it depends, you get credit for setting it up and then miss 1 point out of 2 for the final answer,
The FRQ came as a surprise, all of the topics that we decided in class were important there was not a trace, the electrochemistry one, I stumbled across a problem exactly like it yesterday, without that, it would have been a disaster.</p>

<p>I thought that the multiple choice was actually slightly challenging, guessing about a 65/75, but I don’t think I got more than a point or two off in any of the frq.</p>

<p>@Superninja Yeah, most of the points are for set up. If you got a wrong final answer that’s only one point off.</p>

<p>Learned I = q/t today morning before the test. Yessssss</p>

<p>So did I :)</p>

<p>10char.</p>

<p>That threw me off. I’m like WHAT IS Q for 8 minutes.</p>

<p>The first problem was tough, but I knew how to solve it, just took a while, second problem, I just skipped, did the third, came back to it, figured it out, just in time. I was trying to do all the calculations as fast as I could, so if I ran out of time, I could just come back to it during part B and fill in the work.
Did anyone else think the FRQ were longer as all the parts required a lot of steps, whereas in the practice test, a and b will be simple equilibrium expression, then they’ll break the calculation down in steps, so the problem isn’t that long?</p>

<p>Yeah… I opened the booklet and “a” itself for the first problem took me a while.</p>

<p>Yeah 2012 free response weren’t bad but the multiple choice were a bit tough… Hopefully your explanation is the reason for the harsh curve and that won’t apply this year. But don’t they curve based on how people score?</p>

<p>And I agree with the calorimeter - learned in beginning of year, never showed up on FRQ before… Really not fair.</p>

<p>I think we got screwed because they are CHANGING THE CURRICULUM next year to make it more lab-based. So I think they wanted to test our conceptual knowledge and lab knowledge. Problem is we never had much experience with this on FRQ, and my class personally only did a few labs.</p>

<p>Wow I totally agree. I’m the top of my class, got the highest on the final (over 125/150) and got screwed on the FRQ. I knew the chem so well, but the questions were ridiculous. They were thinking based on lab skills, which weren’t on previous years really and which I had never learned. I hope I got a 5…</p>

<p>-sigh-</p>

<p>I don’t even know how to interpret what happened today. The MC was okay. I mean, all the questions were on different ends of the scale. Either they were hard or easy- absolutely nothing in the middle.</p>

<p>The FRQ… what the heck. I seriously thought the calculator section might as well have been the non-calculator section. Isn’t Part A supposed to test how well you know the math-based problems and Part B tests the conceptual stuff? Both sections were conceptual! Actually, the whole test was.</p>

<p>Overall… idk. I’m relying on the curve. A whole lot.</p>

<p>@jonhs123</p>

<p>100% agree.</p>

<p>I’ve never seen FRQ like the ones I took today. And I swear I’ve been through that whole website back and forth.</p>

<p>I literally had to bs half of my explanations.</p>

<p>I surely hope the other AP exams don’t screw us over.</p>

<p>so it seems that most people screwed up on either the MC or FRQ. lol would it be safe to assume for most that screwing up on at least one section on the test would be inevitable (considering how previous FRQs and MCs were okay compared to this year’s) </p>

<p>It was a bit shocking how the topics that my whole class didn’t really focus (and I’m sure for many other people) turned up. Topics such as:</p>

<p>calorimetry
I=q/t reaction
the conceptual limiting reactant parts
lab techniques
organic acids (we knew there was a chance but it was rare)</p>