<p>Rejections are basically sent at the end of the early action notification deadline, and deferrals are sent throughout.</p>
<p>“Rejections are basically sent at the end of the early action notification deadline”</p>
<p>where did u hear that from? it’s kind of…contrary to what people on here have been saying, lol.</p>
<p>i hate this website…</p>
<p>honestly i think an admin really needs to just take down this thread…ppl are probably a lot more stressed because of it than they would have been without it.</p>
<p>sorry i just dont really understand what u mean…are there no more decisions till december 24?</p>
<p>woah, I was kinda mean in my lost post…sry if I upset anyone, plz do not take me out…I am a thoughtful person most often… to prove it here’s an explanation:</p>
<p>There are a lot of rules you have to follow. Another friend of mine mad this long rant all on AIM explaining it to me. My mom is friends with his mom WHO IS on the admissions committee, btw that’s how I CONFIRMED THAT INFORMATION!!! </p>
<p>ok well now, haha I feel smart, I will tell all you good people the rules hehe</p>
<h1>1: U of M is seemingly open about what they want. The MOST important thing truly is rigor of the coursework. That means 2- things #1-How you make your course work difficult and how you respond #2. How the school makes it difficult and how you respond. #1 is how many AP/IB classes have you TAKEN, that’s right, no one gives a poop about the one’s your TAKING. In fact, if you want to see a big fat deferral go ahead, take normal classes and get a 3.9, then sign up for AP Calc BC, AP Chem, AP Lit, AP Bio, AP PHYSICS all senior year. ohhhh you think you’re so smart with your APs…when college admissions officers see they’ll be like ohhhhh.interesting…I wonder what they’re grades will look like after the end of 7th SEMESTER …BAM-DEFERRAL! Unless of course you’re like a 3.6 or above and have passed 1-2 AP’s already this deferral thing is what they’ll likely do to someone who’s got a 3.6-3.9 GPA without APs until senior from a typical high school (there are many other factors I will explain-let’s just hold those constant right now). Now if you’ve taken 2 or more APs junior year already and are taking 2 or more more senior year then it looks fine and if you maintain a 3.65-4.0 in this way with 2 or more APs junior year to 2 or more APs senior year planned in senior year that puts you in the right path with what you can control. Now #2: Something you can’t control, how hard is your school. There has been recent news of International Academy. I used to attend that school in 9th grade, middle of 10th grade i dropped out, classes were way to hard for me and I was staying up way too late to complete work… IA(international academy) demands each student to be up to a certain threshold in their ability and to be below doesn’t make you different or a kid who can be cool and popular and not care about grades…it makes you get kicked out. This ensures that any one student from IA has challenged him or herself with classes with assured difficulty). All the classes are honors or IB. Nothing regular. This means the equivalent of 6 AP courses that include critical thinking-a skill colleges love (critical thinking-great thing to put in your essays by the way-makes you look like a passionate reasonable learner-yeah, that phrase critical thinking-it just means support your essays with examples, limit your fallacious comments, though for rhetorical purposes it’s alright. Have a thought process from one idea to the next and do not accept someone as authority and critique all statements.) Anyways, back to the classes, so yah, some schools like IA control your academic qualifications so if you don’t go to one of these schools you’re going to have to make your courseload hard manually. But ya, point of all this is UofM is not going to accept someone with a 4.0 who’s taking Algebra 2 senior year (11th grade coursework-IA coursework 10th or 9th grade-average senior math class at adams). Ya, don’t be one of those idiots who takes non academic classes senior year, you will look like a joke, even if you get a 4.0 taking the Adventure Challenge Team Building Course Junior yr or senior y. Ironically you hurt your transcript more than you will help. Immediately if UofM sees something dumb on your transcript like that Junior or Senior yr (unless you’ve demonstrated you can handle insane classes junior year) admission reps will be doubtful throughout your entire application.</h1>
<p>ACT score:</p>
<p>Most straight forward thing. This is what I’ll call the #3 factor though they list it as #2. Basically during the review process they glance at it and make sure the the average is like 28 or above and that there are no idiotic subscores like 22 or below. They don’t like that. But yeah, that’s straight forward. Oh yeah, there’s no super scoring so yeah, don’t even bother sending them all 9000 attempts cus then they’ll be like wth, did kid just probably got lucky, yah colleges aren’t stupid, they know that ACT +Luck=32 and ACT-Luck=27. Same goes with SAT scores. That’s why you see more 27+3.8’s than 33 with 3.5’s. They really don’t care which ones (SAT/ACT) they receive. Only thing is they equate a 1360 (CR+Math-no one gives a poop about writing unless it’s really low) to a 30 so yeah, that’s kinda of off favoring ACT so yeah, ACT is better in most cases to send in. </p>
<p>4th Most Important Factor:</p>
<p>O.k, Extra Curriculars and Letters of Recommendations are seen as about on the same footing. kk, #1 pet peeve of my mom’s friend. Hey, my name is superficial and I’m a member of the Ski, Chess, Ping Pong, Math, Art&Craft, and Underwater basket weaving club. I’m also president of the Pizza eating club and I am volunteering at my church-sure you arreee. (well they’re not this bad usually but still). Admissions officers aren’t stupid. They know you don’t get much out of these clubs unless maybe you started them and are becoming a better person by trying to lead everyone and keep them together. You probably just go once a month or whenever you want to. Clubs like these don’t really care anyway, they’re jokes trying to get members.What’s that-you think that’s stereotyping and that maybe some schools have serious clubs like that that are very enriching–justify it in one of your essays if you want that EC to count. Some examples of legit Extra Curricular Activities are Varsity Sports of Divisions 1 or 2 teams. (Other divisions you rarely have to try out for a spot on varsity). Also volunteering in a prominent organization or being in an intern for something that reflects your career choice looks nice. Also competing in those olympiads like science and math as well as winning some awards looks nice. Working part-time is a very good extra curricular if you maintain a 3.6 and above. It shows you are ready for real life. Some other things may count as well. U of M in general does not care about the plethora of ECs that you have. They want to see 2-4 quality ones. Varsity sport+Math Competitions+Volunteering @ Hospital is great combo! It’s sure better than the other gold plated garbage my friend’s mom has to read sometimes. Now with teacher recs, Ill include this even though you really don’t know how yours is supposed to look, if you do know what know it says and they find out it is no longer seen as a legitimate letter of recommendation they’ll just rip it up. But yeah, here’s what it is supposed it’s not supposed to say (1 from teacher and preferably 1 from counselor). Student X is a brilliant student. They contribute in class and make thoughtful statements and exhibit creative thinking. They are members of many clubs and have achieved this, this, and this. If the activities and awards just match your resume (which would be a nice thing to send in btw) then the officers will see that the letter of recommendation is crappy which unfortunately even if it isn’t true means that likely think there is no substantial relationship between teacher and student. Therefore, if you’re one of those kids who never talks to teachers or participates in after schools activities with them being the supervisor, you’re letter will not be great. UofM will just realize that they are copying and pasting a list of accomplishments that you have given them. Of course, some people are not people-people so that’s why if the other three factors work they’ll likely over look the recommendation. Basically, a teacher rec needs a personal experience explaining how well the teacher knows the student. Provide one to the teacher even if he/she doesn’t ask and politely assert that they use it-that’s all you can control with ur letter of recommendation. </p>
<p>5th Most Important factor:</p>
<p>Essays, I had a friend who talked about attending the IA (International Academy), giving examples that before she was racist and once she entered senior year she was not. This girl got rejected January 4th. That’s right not deferred of WL, rejected and apparently that is an early time to get rejected since they can not be sent until Dec 25th and I’m sure they’re not sending them on that day. But ya, point is, they’re really just there so the admissions person can get to know you. Few grammatical mistakes (like this board post) and yeah they mind a little (that’s really as bad as it gets). But if they see a thoughtful essay or at least one that is slightly original they’ll put a check by it and you’ll pass. It’s just a chance for the Reviewer to get to know you. Honestly, they just want to have some fun reading these. Just give them a nice essay. Don’t list your accomplishments or talk about something dumb like how you watched the U of M football team beat Penn State at the last second with Chad Henne connecting to some guy now in the NFL. It’s pointless. 1000’s experienced the same thing and it’s just stupid cus you had no personal connections to the event. Some great things to include in your Letter of Rec are your EC’s especially if they are questionable like the ones earlier. Talk about them with creativity and enthusiasm with your own twist and that will validate them and show the admissions people you are creative.
2nd most important factor (this factor in reality goes after difficulty of coursework but for poetic justice I’m including it last because I believe it is the least important factor)</p>
<p>To understand why this last factor is so important, understand it’s more than just one thing, it’s a buncha crappy things combined that are out of the student’s control.
Pay attention to the numbers for how important they are not the order.
4. Race-Blacks or Hispanics are given slight compensation. This has been dramatically reduced since affirmative action’s media attention and perhaps is the smallest factor but whether a student is part of one of these minorities is a factor-usually they are more willing to take (WELL QUALIFIED) minorities above ( EQUALLY WELL QUALIFIED) others in order to express diversity, something that supposedly show’s the American spirit and college greatness.
3. Legacy:
If your parents attended or you are getting your letter from teacher alumni then they see that as a link to a fellow UofM’er and without questioning how the person has changed 20-30 yrs later they will have a bit of added faith.
2. 1st Generation attending college-They’ll see it has a rags to riches story and it will likely help you alot, wow this kid had to overcome alot his parents are likely not advantaged and not knowledgeable of the system…this application deserves some brownie points (that’s an expression…quantification explanation will occur at the end of this rant). See this is a dumb idea because what if two equally talented students were present and one who had 1st generation college got in…i mean hey it’s not the son’s fault that his dad earns 200 grand a year. He is just as qualified (there are very rare cases where paranoid parents do students work for them but yea, not really-doesn’t work on the tests). But yeah, recent research proves that giving a child all he needs is sometimes counterproductive as it lets the child take things for granted which overall makes it harder for him than the person who had nothing. Also, do you know the rich kid wouldn’t have acted differently had he been in the same situation as the poor kid. Wealth should only be a factor in financial aide
- In state vs. Out of State:
Strongest uncontrollable factor: UoM likes instate applicants because apparently they get some award for enrolling a certain amount of students. Also, this is rarely the case with Michigan but dealing with diversity again (ya it’s stupid, idk how being from Ohio makes one intellectually different from one being from Michigan) if there’s a specific state that U of M has low admits from or does have admits to (very unlikely for large public school) then they will likely give preference to them,uncontrollable but that’s what happens</p>
<p>A final note about the point system:</p>
<p>O.k, apparently the Holistic Application review process looks unconventional which in modern times translates to original which translates to good method (that’s how it is these days). Unfortunately, when the first college decided to do Holistic (also carries the connotation of pure, natural, caring) a lot of colleges follow in suit. Oh yeah, it’s also a way of colleges getting people to apply. I literally talked with a Harvard Admissions Junior Officer. I told her I had a 3.7 and gave her my stats (mediocre). She said, ya, go ahead apply, you never know! You’ll regret not applying. See colleges are businesses still. One of their sources of revenue is their admissions fee money. They’ll lie through their teeth saying they evaluate holistically so that you’ll apply. Truly though, U of M doesn’t evaluate decisions completely holistically-no college does (maybe one in rural Idaho that is in need of students). Sometimes GPA needs to be looked at in order to make sure you’re not admitting an idiot. Holistic evaluation implied looking at the applicant as a whole but truly, when one looks within himself, doesn’t he want to believe he is a better than someone else as a person anyways so he’ll think maybe if they look at the whole picture, they can see that I’m better than him, yeah ill apply. But yeah, the way they say they grade holistically is that different people look at the applications and though they look at the whole thing. There is no set, 2 pts for being in sports, .5 point extra added on for each additional, 10 points for legacy, 3.85=38.5 points…etc. Instead people look at these factors have their mental/internal qualifications. There is no standard system but each person will do something in their heads in order to rationalize something. It’s the way we humans make decisions. We try to rationalize things in their heads, does this decision outweigh that decision (NEITHER OUTWEIGHS we’re idiots, actions don’t have quantative weights, they have subjective relative ones). But ya, they will do their best to grade holistically but really each person has their approach and my mother’s friend admits the making tallies for thing like was their GPA at least this etc.</p>
<p>^wow…impressive</p>
<p>wow~</p>
<p>thank u! it is really helpful…</p>
<p>but i guess it might be different for international students 
we dont have Christmas, so i still have a great chance to get a deferral on December, 24</p>
<p>go blue!</p>
<p>^ Amazing! This the most info that I’ve seen on the process. The last glimpse I got was from the Harry Bauld book on writing the essay.</p>
<p>so does this mean if we havent gotten a decision yet we’re probably accepted???</p>
<p>No it does not.</p>
<p>@twistedxkiss ,do you have anything to confirm that statement?
@ilovefhf,maybe yes maybe no,we just cant know for sure</p>
<p>“so does this mean if we havent gotten a decision yet we’re probably accepted???”
“No it does not.”
“@twistedxkiss ,do you have anything to confirm that statement?”</p>
<p>firstly, twistedxkiss is saying that it does not mean for sure that we are accepted…the same thing u just replied with. we just don’t know, people.</p>
<p>secondly, uomichigan, just shut the hell up. stop making ass-long posts & stop stirring up $hit in this thread. you’re not the michigan god, okay? you’re not special just because your dad’s friend’s mom or whatever works on some committee.</p>
<p>don’t u people realize what a waste of time it is to try to figure out if you’re going to get in when they very well may have already made their decision about u? every one needs to just keep their $hit together until we find out more from UM, itself.</p>
<p>sorry if i offended any one with this, but…wait, no, i’m not sorry. no more pointless posts, kk? & if you’re new, for the love of god, READ BACK. starting…now.</p>
<p>i agree with TheyCallMeCC</p>
<p>no one on this board is an EXPERT on michigan and new people on this board can GO BACK and look through previous pages before asking a question that has already been asked ONE MILLION times BEFORE.</p>
<p>Thanks, UofMichigan for sharing your info with us! A bunch of us here are pretty anxious about the whole thing and it is nice to have someone to provide such facts :)</p>
<p>hahahahahaaa @TheyCallMeCC</p>
<p>…agreed.</p>
<p>uofmichigan: Not meaning to be too harsh bro, but lets get real here…you seem like you know everything about admissions here and you dont. I agree with same parts of your post, but c’mon man none of us know everything.</p>
<p>This thread’s better than Comedy Central. :P</p>
<p>Hey, if UofMichigan knows everything about U of M admissions, why did he beg an admissions person from U of M to chance him on the phone?!?!?</p>
<p>[Guys</a>, he’s a ■■■■■.](<a href=“http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=■■■■■]Guys”>Urban Dictionary: ■■■■■) Don’t feed it! :/</p>