Official Dec Test (CR-Shakespeare, Autobiography-brother Dennis)

<p>uhh was there even an answer choice other than (a+1, b+2) where b was larger “a, b+1”? I dont remember that…I just remember the a+1, b+2</p>

<p>i know i picked a+1, b+1, so that was a choice.</p>

<p>)a, b+1) would not work because it intersects at (a,b)</p>

<p>I understand why (a, b+1) does not work, but I’m fairly certain that that wasn’t even a choice. I did remember seeing your choice andreaaaa, (a+1, b+1), and I also think there was a (a+2, b+2), but was there even (a, b+1)???</p>

<p>Can someone answer my indeed question? :D</p>

<p>It’s like this. You state your point, and you say indeed to counterpoint yourself but you usually come up wiht a counter to that counter point.</p>

<p><em>assume you’ve been arguing with someone over whether a sedan or an SUV is better, you argue for the SUV</em></p>

<p>“Indeed, a sedan would give me better milage. However I would give up that mileage for safty.”</p>

<p>So here, I’m conceding that yes a sedan does have it’s benefits, namly the fuel economy.</p>

<p>I understand that. But the author of passage 2 didn’t concede anything to passage 1. It didn’t say anything like “Indeed, Shakespeare came from a humble background …”</p>

<p>It said something like</p>

<p>“Indeed, Shakespeare was one of the greatest playwrights …”</p>

<p>And since Passage 1 certainly didn’t portray Shakespeare as one of the greatest playwrights, I’m confused on what’s being conceded.</p>

<p>Ah I see, hmm it’s kinda hard to figure out without the exact quote. I can’t really see how else indeed can be used any other way, but then again I’m not looking at the sentence.</p>

<p>If it’s as you wrote, then maybe it’s just being really blunt and saying no De Vere was not a playwrite, shakespear is. idk</p>

<p>Yeah, I guess we’ll just have to wait a couple weeks.</p>

<p>yeah some of the stuff is ridiculously subjective</p>

<p>The author passage 2 was conceding that Shakespeare’s plays demonstrated vast and deep knowledge. This would seem to undermine passage 2, but the author goes on to account for that by stating that the knowledge could be had by books.</p>

<p>“Shakespeare was indeed a man of vast knowldege, etc.”</p>

<p>OK I WILL EXPLAIN THE ANSWER TO THE INDEED QUESTION:</p>

<p>HE IS NOT CONCEEDING A POINT. when looking in context and reading the following sentences, I realized the 1. the author of passage 1 is actually saying that shakespeare was not possibly knowledgeable enough to write what he did therefore someone else had to have written it.
2. the answer was something to do with "draw attention to details about shakespeare’s life or something because in the next it read like this: shakespeare indeed was a man of vast knowledge. he was a playwrite, a scholar, a seaman, etc. it was to draw detail to shakespear’s knowledge and then the author of pasage 2 went on to support his claim by showing how shakespear knew so much.</p>

<p>the authoir of passage 2 isnt conceding anything since the author of passage 1 doesnt support the assumption that shakespear was a man of great knowledge</p>

<p>your welcome >:O</p>

<p>Thanks. And you put as the answer … ?"</p>

<p>i think you guys are reading too much into this. its a quick sat magazine article qna, not literary analysis</p>

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<p>yes he does. thats what the whole passage is about. how william shakespeare didnt have enough knowledge to write shakespeare’s work. so passage one assumes that the author must have great knowledge.</p>

<p>i think the confusion lies in the fact of what “shakespeare” is: the author of the plays? or william shakespeare himself.
i put down conceded, because i thought that Passage 1 did say the author had lots of knowledge, knowledge that shakespeare couldnt have had. however, even if it was william himself that author 2 refers to, when he lists all those careers, im pretty sure he didnt mean to suggest that shakespeare was every one of those…especially with P2’s attempt at taking the argument to the extreme. </p>

<p>even if you look at the essay as a whole, the first paragraph is sort of addressing other arguments/refuting it, then 2nd is P2’s main argument, with the superficial knowledge and stuff. P2 is primarily trying to say that yes, while shakespeare does have lots of knowledge, its fake/he made errors. that is pretty much where i got “concede” from.</p>

<p>you guys… It was concede.. hands down.</p>

<p>I think you can easily over-read into it and that question was intended to be a quick one. now, everyone is saying that the mother using dennis’ name was her exaggerated regard for her son.. I don’t remember exactly what I put but I’m pretty sure it wasn’t that one. I think the one below it was something like.. “she wanted to emphasize how much her kids should be like him or something…” i don’t remember exactly. I thought exaggerated regard was a trick… because he was so accomplished, so it wasn’t necessarily exaggerated. The only reason why I’m not sure is because of that one paragraph where it said “but if only mom knew the stuff Dennis did in college” or whatever… so I don’t know.. but some of the questions are subtly tricky and/or subjective as hell so it’s hard to definitively say what is right or wrong.</p>

<p>yeah, its concede.</p>

<p>i find that while the argument for the choice “concede” is in some respects a viable one, I find that it might not necessarily be the best choice due to the following:</p>

<p>Passage 1 attacks Shakespeare’s lack of knowledge; however, I find that the word “indeed” is used to affirm that shakespeare was actually knowledgeable enough to write his plays. If passage 2 is in fact conceding a point in the argument, it wouldve acknowledged that shakespeare was “indeed” flawed, not knowledgeable enough, etc. </p>

<p>well, that’s how i saw it. perhaps i read by playing the wrong emphasis on the word. Like one of the earlier posts, I think none of us can be sure until someone posts the actual quote</p>

<p>Can we get some final-ness on the awe/shadow/dispair question? I’m pretty certain that it’s awe, because the dispair choice was worded “they felt dispair in his presense” i remember that ‘in his presense’ was in there so I ruled out dispair since they felt feel it all the time even when he’d not there. What’d you guys put?</p>