<p>Zogoto, I am so shocked! I absolutely cannot believe it! From what I hear, you weren't the only one :( :(. Wow. What kind of school rejects ppl like these??</p>
<p>hahah thanks. But I guess I wasn't good enough. I have to do 9 applications now! !@)%&!%asdl;ifj</p>
<p>accepted! post stats later i guess.</p>
<p>can anyone access the webpage for admitted students?</p>
<p>We can still apply to other places right?</p>
<p>Uhhhhhh, no. You'll def get in everywhere else. it's just harvard that doesn't want cool people.</p>
<p>zogoto, you wouldn't happen to know whether spydertennis was accepted or deferred, do you? Now that I want to find out, I wish I hadn't wrote that note about how to ban him...</p>
<p>deferred.......</p>
<p>He was deferred.</p>
<p>What an interesting turn of events.</p>
<p>DHA wrote, "I do not bear any anger towards Harvard. Harvard does not make mistakes in admissions. They have a bigger adcom than any other college and pick the best kids. I do not believe I'm actually "meant" to go there but they just overlooked me. </p>
<p>Does anyone have any clue what I may have been rejected for?"</p>
<p>Weak essays (for example filled with such grammatical problems or writing problems that you do not appear to have the skills to handle Harvard's writing assignments. This can happen with students who get excellent grades at horrible schools where their English teachers don't know basic grammar) or recommendations that state or imply something about you that makes it seem that you are not the type of person who could make it at Harvard.</p>
<p>An example of a bad recommendation would be something along the lines of "He is a diligent student and a humble person who always does exactly what teachers ask on his assignments. He is never one to take the limelight, but always remains in the background doing whatever tasks need to be done in order for activities to happen. He is unfailingly courteous and comes from a God-fearing background."</p>
<p>This type of recommendation would probably help someone get into a conservative Christian college which desires obedient students who lack the "sin" of pride. To Harvard adcoms, however, such a recommendation would indicate that a student: lacks intellectual passion ("diligent" indicates that the student works for the grade), is passive, mealy mouthed (Harvard values people willing to speak up assertively about their ideas, and Harvard values students with unusual ideas that are based on in depth reading about a variety of subjects) and lacks leadership ability. "God-fearing" might be interpreted by adcoms as being a person who believes in the extremist conservative, sexist and racist views of some conservative faiths.</p>
<p>I have served on a lot of scholarship committees, including national ones, and have seen such recommendations come from well-meaning teachers and GCs at weak schools with lots of low income people. Such recommendations are of help to students who are looking for low level jobs requiring no education, but are not of any use to students who are applying to colleges like Harvard -- which want to select students who are destined for top leadership positions making a major impact on society</p>
<p>NSM, that was actually me who wrote that...</p>
<p>I come from a strong school, and my recs were all good. One got me into RSI, the other I saw (teacher let me), one was from RSI, and the other was from my Harvard mentor.</p>
<p>I NEED your help NSM. Whey did I get deferred?</p>
<p>The only thing that I could think of (if I may so boldly interject my opinions) is that perhaps your strong math and science leanings shed an unfavorable light onto your artistic and linguistic sides? I know your ECs include debating and leadership organizations. But perhaps you lack a solid recommendation from an English teacher? Or lack presentations of creativity or artistic talents? It is perhaps this well-roundedness that Harvard seeks that has doomed you?</p>
<p>lots and lots of decisions were really unexpected..........</p>
<p>Most applicants who apply to Harvard EA get deferred. The majority of them will be rejected (which also is true of regular applicants to Harvard). That is always why I advise students who apply to Harvard EA to assume that they will be deferred (and later rejected). </p>
<p>The only applicants who get in EA are applicants whom Harvard is certain would be accepted once the regular applicant pool is in. When it comes to people with 800 math scores, national awards in Mu Alpha Theta, various top science awards -- there are many such students applying to Harvard.</p>
<p>Stats and achievements that would thrill adcoms at most colleges, including top colleges, are ordinary in Harvard's application pool. </p>
<p>As for this: " I am President/Founder of Science Research Club, President of Spanish Honor Society, VP of Speech and Debate, VP of NHS, and I have a black belt in karate (9 years)." </p>
<p>None of these things are extraordinary in Harvard's admissions pool. I have seen national presidents of major student organizations get deferred. I have seen students with state and national awards get deferred and then rejected.</p>
<p>Remember that one is competing with students who are nationally competitive athletes and who hold national leadership positions and hold national awards in unusual academic areas. Even for such students, a Harvard admission is not guaranteed.</p>
<p>My guess is that most RSI students apply to Harvard. My guess is that also many will be accepted, but there's no need for Harvard to accept them EA. Harvard can wait until the entire applicant pool is in before making decisions on the RSI folks except perhaps for the people who obviously are at the genius level and also have some killer additional ECs or achievements.</p>
<p>So do you think the RSI deferral to admit rate is higher than average? That may be due to the fact that the CEE President takes action to get us in...</p>
<p>Do you think if I improved my score from 1880 to 2400, I'd be in? LOL</p>
<p>what is a fee waiver? how do people get it?</p>
<p>NSM, how much do you think Sephiroth's perfect score record helped him get accepted?</p>
<p>hmmm harvard EA decisions are extremely baffling....</p>
<p>zogoto i'm so sorry you didn't get in! you seriously had like everything going for you.....im sure other top schools will want you and you'll pwn everyone and then harvard will be like: darn we should have accepted him EA. :]</p>
<p>Northstarmom said: "The only applicants who get in EA are applicants whom Harvard is certain would be accepted once the regular applicant pool is in. When it comes to people with 800 math scores, national awards in Mu Alpha Theta, various top science awards -- there are many such students applying to Harvard."</p>
<p>to me that statement seems inaccurate because more students who didnt have those tops awards got in EA whereas those who did didn't get in. well i don't know....wouldn't those with the top awards match the caliber of the regular applicant pool? so wouldnt they be just as likely to be accepted? so i don't know whether this is a CC thing or if it really represents the EA pool. so my question is what's going on? i'm sure other people are wondering the same thing too. i've tried looking for a trend in this small pool of accept/def data but i don't see any real consistency......... </p>
<p>hey im not saying anything against those who did get accepted cuz you guys are amazing too! Congrats! have a party!</p>
<p>With all due respect, I think Northstarmom's previous post is just a bit over the top. </p>
<p>My prediction is that a much larger number of SCEA deferreds will be accepted this year than were accepted last year.</p>