Official Penn Class of 2013 ED Results

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<p>Decision: Deferred</p>

<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] School applied to: College of Arts and Science
[</em>] SAT Verbal: 730
[<em>] SAT Math: 780
[</em>] SAT Writing: 750
[<em>] SAT Total: 2260
[</em>] SAT II: 800 Math IIC 790 Chem 760 US History
[<em>] ACT: 32
[</em>] AP/IB taken/scores: CompSci A, Euro, US, Chem, Physics B, Calc BC, Macro, all 5s; Taking Physics C, US Gov, Micro, AP Eng Lang right now.
[<em>] GPA weighted: 4.2? 4.3? I cant remember
[</em>] GPA unweighted: 3.97
[li] Rank or % estimate: Top 3% but no "official ranks" (1000 per class)</p>[/li]
<p>[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[<em>] Essays: Decent
[</em>] Optional Essay?(Y/N): Yes. It was okay.
[<em>] Teacher Recs: One good, one dont know
[</em>] Counselor Rec: I dont know but seeing how many each counselor has to do.. probably really generic
[<em>] Supplemental Rec(s)?: Nope
[</em>] Hook (if any): Apparently not
[li] Interview?: Nope</p>[/li]
<p>[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[<em>] State or Country: Indiana
[</em>] School Type: Huge public (4000 kids)
[<em>] Ethnicity: Korean<br>
[</em>] Gender: Male
[<em>] Financial Aid?(Y/N): Yes but I filled it out way past deadline cuz i didnt know it was due at the same time.
[</em>] Legacy Yes/No: Yes
[<em>] Recruited Yes/No: No
[</em>] Important ECs: Science Olympiad, School newspaper web editor, math competitions, and etc</p>

<p>[/ul]Other Factors (weaknesses, strengths, etc.): No clue... I moved to America in 8th grade.. if that helped or not</p>

<p>General Comments/Congratulations/etc: To be honest, I'm kind of disappointed. But seeing so many 2300s getting rejected, I see that scores really don't matter anymore. Oh well, I get one more chance at penn and other places for regular. May turn out to be better for me, may not. Oh yeah, so I'm deferred... What do I do about Penn now?</p>

102

<p>As for the scores. I guess Penn finally realized that scores aren't that important. The evaluation is definitely holistic. Getting a high school shouldn't matter that much. Although my scores aren't bad, but I think I got in because of the other things that showed in my app. </p>

<p>The danger of getting a high score is that schools might think you don't have a life or a passion...unless the passion is for SAT... Therefore, they will be very skeptical of the rest of your app. Just be careful with your apps when you have a high score. Don't think that the score will help you. Just think what else you can show to make you stand out and let the committee know that you actually have a passion for other stuff.</p>

103

<p>How can the one test that everyone across the country takes not be considered important?</p>

<p>I mean, GPA is basically meaningless to me. That really is as much a reflection about the school and the teachers than about the person. </p>

<p>Essays should probably be as heavily weighted as they are.</p>

<p>Interviews should really become completely irrelevant except in cases of "this person absolutely must be denied entrance here." I mean, there are different interviewers who have different interviewing styles, and when you couple that with the natural nervous associated with this-could-be-my-future, you might not always get the best chance to express yourself.</p>

104

<p>Just because everyone takes it, doesn't mean the test is fair or flawless. Some people get high scores from taking prep classes. Generally, those who are rich get higher scores. You can actually increase your score by doing lots of practices..which defeats the point of an "aptitude test."</p>

105

<p>SAT's are important, but its just part of a lot of other factors. GPA is looked at in the context of your school, and it shows how well you can perform in difficult classes for a long period of time. Basically GPA's indicates how well you can acquire knowledge on the certain subject area. A lot of kids in my school from previous years have 1500+ SAT scores, but many do not have 3.8 + GPA's. Since SAT can be superscored and students are now able to choose what scores to send, the actual importance might have decreased.</p>

106

<p>I disagree with the SAT hypothesis (maybe only b/c I had a 2340 and therefore want to believe that it helped rather than hurt). I took it twice, 2270 the first time and 2300 the second; no prep courses (no monetary issues either though), I just studied out of the books...eh who cares at this point??!!!! My school is doing really well this year: 6 to Cornell, 2 Columbia, and 3 Penn (including me!).</p>

107

<p>Decision: ACCEPTED!</p>

<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] School applied to: CAS
[</em>] SAT Verbal: 780
[<em>] SAT Math: 700
[</em>] SAT Writing: 770
[<em>] SAT Total: 2250
[</em>] SAT II: US History 760, Spanish 600, Math II 670
=P chyeahh. abysmal Spanish and Math II scores....the rest of you made for a harsh curve! haha
[<em>] ACT: 31
[</em>] AP/IB taken/scores: USH 4, Lit 4, Stat 4
[<em>] GPA weighted: 4.45
[</em>] GPA unweighted: 4.0
[li] Rank or % estimate: 1/259</p>[/li]
<p>[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[<em>] Essays: I honestly think my essays are what got me in (not meaning to be boastful at all!!!) because my ECs weren't super unique while my essays were on very unique topics.
[</em>] Optional Essay?(Y/N): Yup. This one was extremely personal.
[<em>] Teacher Recs: The one I got to read was good; said I was one of the best in her 16 yr career. The other one i didnt get to read since it was sent directly, but im guessing its good b/c she was my scientific research teacher who has taught for like 30-ish some years and is now retired. she is notorious for writing amazing recs.
[</em>] Counselor Rec: yeahh. about that. idk how good it was, but i have a feeling it was probably really really generic because he has so many other kids to write stuff for.
[<em>] Supplemental Rec(s)?: Nope
[</em>] Hook (if any): First generation?? essays
[li] Interview?: Yup. Went ok. i wouldnt say stellar oh-my-gosh amazing but it was good. just a regular convo. though he couldve smiled more.</p>[/li]
<p>[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[<em>] State or Country: Amish country, baby!! no, im not amish. =P and yes, there is more here than cows.
[</em>] School Type: Public
[<em>] Ethnicity: Asian
[</em>] Gender: Female, despite my username which is actually a bible verse. but yeah, bad choice on my part when it comes down to gender haha
[<em>] Financial Aid?(Y/N): Yup
[</em>] Legacy Yes/No: Nope
[<em>] Recruited Yes/No: Nope. Now, if there were such a thing as pro-procrastination, then it might be a different story.
[</em>] Important ECs: Science fair awards, though i never did anything on the national scale, just local stuff and of course leadership positions in honor societies, school publications, leadership seminars, and other stuff. pretty generic i think.</p>

<p>[/ul]Other Factors (weaknesses, strengths, etc.): I think my essays were just really raw in the sense that i didnt try to be some ideal that i thought penn would like. i wrote with PASSION and HONESTY and i really do think that was key. </p>

<p>General Comments/Congratulations/etc: I still can't believe that i am going to the school i thought i could only DREAM about when i was in 9th grade! I cannot WAIT to meet everybody! and to those who were deferred/rejected...i know with certainty that you will succeed wherever you attend b/c like all penn applicants, you are intelligent. you are insightful. and you are driven. best of luck.</p>

108

<p>High SAT scores will definitely help if your rest of the app looks nice. Because if you have a high SAT score, that means school work should be a bit easier for you than the many other students in the school. Therefore, you should be able to spend the same amount of time on other activities, just as a student who scores below 2250. If the rest of app doesn't look too good, a high SAT score doesn't do much and might even let the adcom think you don't do anything but SAT or w/e.</p>

109

<p>forgot to mention that i didnt send my official ACT scores until later and i dont think penn even got it in time b/c it was still listed on the outstanding materials page as of thursday night</p>

110

<p>(First post here. I've been a lurker, haha)</p>

<p>Decision: Accepted to CAS</p>

<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] School applied to: CAS
[</em>] SAT Verbal: 770
[<em>] SAT Math: 740
[</em>] SAT Writing: 780
[<em>] SAT Total: 2290
[</em>] SAT II: Math IIC- 760, Chem- 740, Math IC- 730, Chinese- 700, Bio- 690
[<em>] ACT: N/A
[</em>] AP/IB taken/scores: World History- 5, Chem- 5, US History- 5, Lang- 5, currently taking Calc AB, Micro/Macro Econ, Physics, French, Lit
[<em>] GPA weighted: 4.305
[</em>] GPA unweighted: 3.975
[li] Rank or % estimate: 2/190</p>[/li]
<p>[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[<em>] Essays: Decent, optional essay was the best in my opinion
[</em>] Optional Essay?(Y/N): Y
[<em>] Teacher Recs: Didn't see them but should be pretty good, one of the teachers absolutely loved me when I was in his class
[</em>] Counselor Rec: Didn't see this either but I know she made it very personal
[<em>] Supplemental Rec(s)?: Piano teacher rec as part of music supplement
[</em>] Hook (if any): East Asian Studies major, very interested in languages- don't know if that helped?
[li] Interview?: Yes</p>[/li]
<p>[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[<em>] State or Country: New York
[</em>] School Type: Public
[<em>] Ethnicity: Asian
[</em>] Gender: Female
[<em>] Financial Aid?(Y/N): N
[</em>] Legacy Yes/No: N
[<em>] Recruited Yes/No: N
[</em>] Important ECs: Piano, violin, Model UN, varsity badminton, hospital volunteer</p>

<p>[/ul]Other Factors (weaknesses, strengths, etc.): National Merit Semifinalist </p>

<p>General Comments/Congratulations/etc: Congrats to everyone else that got in! :)</p>

111

<p>Decision: Accepted</p>

<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] School applied to: CAS
[</em>] SAT Verbal: 730
[<em>] SAT Math: 720
[</em>] SAT Writing: 800
[<em>] SAT Total: 2250
[</em>] SAT II: 750 Spanish w/ listening, 740 Math 2
[<em>] ACT: 32... didn't submit that
[</em>] AP/IB taken/scores: English Lang-4, Calc AB-5, Spanish Lang-5, Environmental-4, this year I'm taking BC, Spanish Lit, Macroeconomics, and English Lit
[<em>] GPA weighted: A- range (my school doesn't calculate)
[</em>] GPA unweighted: A-ish range?
[li] Rank or % estimate: Not reported (I would guess 10%-ish)</p>[/li]
<p>[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[<em>] Essays: I write. My essays kicked major ass, especially my "Why Penn?" Considering that I applied with an interest in English, I think they really paid attention to how well they were written.
[</em>] Optional Essay?(Y/N): Yes; loved writing it! Neat topic.
[<em>] Teacher Recs: Excellent--I'm even somewhat close with the teachers.
[</em>] Counselor Rec: Excellent
[<em>] Supplemental Rec(s)?: I had a professor from a course taken over the summer send one, but the Penn Portal never showed it so who knows
[</em>] Hook (if any): Esteemed private school at which I took the highest level classes, legacy, strong essays/SAT writing score for a prospective English major
[li] Interview?: Yup! Went pretty well.</p>[/li]
<p>[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[<em>] State or Country: NJ
[</em>] School Type: Private
[<em>] Ethnicity: Caucasian
[</em>] Gender: Female
[<em>] Financial Aid?(Y/N): No
[</em>] Legacy Yes/No: YES
[<em>] Recruited Yes/No: NO
[</em>] Important ECs: Editor-in-Chief of my school paper, some random community service etc.</p>

<p>[/ul]Other Factors (weaknesses, strengths, etc.): I think I just had exceptionally strong reasons for wanting to go to Penn and made them very clear: the Philly community in which I have already made connections, the fact that Penn is so special to my family since a lot of my relatives have gone, the fact that Penn was the first liberal arts institution ever created and I want liberal arts before going to grad school for journalism... stuff like that. I was extremely specific about what I wanted on my app and I really think that that is what got me accepted. And of course my status as a legacy probably helped, I won't lie.</p>

<p>General Comments/Congratulations/etc: I am UNBELIEVABLY shocked/excited! UPENN '13!</p>

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<p>mishiemash837, this was my first post too and I've been a shameless lurker for a while, haha. :) </p>

<p>Congrats guys!</p>

113

<p>is it just me or does there seem to be very few posts?</p>

114

<p>Decision: ACCEPTED at WHARTON & CAS (Vagelos Dual Degree)</p>

<p>Hi all! I hope this information would be useful for future applicants to Penn! </p>

<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] School applied to: Vagelos Life Sciences & Management @ Wharton and CAS
[</em>] SAT Verbal: 800
[<em>] SAT Math: 770
[</em>] SAT Writing: 800, 12 essay
[<em>] SAT Total: 1570/2370
[</em>] SAT II: 780-Math IIC, 790-Chinese w/ Listening, 800-Biology M
[<em>] ACT: 35
[</em>] AP/IB taken/scores: 5-Bio,Human Geo,Am History; 4-Am Gov, Eng III; 3-French IV
[<em>] GPA weighted: 4.32
[</em>] GPA unweighted: 3.97
[li] Rank or % estimate: School does not rank. Top 5%</p>[/li]
<p>[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[li] Essays: [/li]Common-On my little sister; childhood escapades and what we are like now.
WhyPenn-Experiences in Philly & opportunities at Penn that really interest me (I found out that Vagelos fit me really well!).
PennProf-Attended Wharton class and talked about learning experience and how/why the subject interested me.
WhyVagelos-Research experience & how/why I'm interested in continuing research in college. I also talked about how further research helped me become more realistic in my often ambitious goals. </p>

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[<em>] Optional Essay: Did not write optional essay (p.217).
[</em>] Teacher Recs: Waived access. Bio (my favorite subject!) & English
[<em>] Counselor Rec: Waived access. I love my counselor! We discussed my current and future plans and talked about school as well. I turned in a self-evaluation, peer evaluation, and activity sheet to help her with the recommendation.
[</em>] Hook (if any): #1 in State for Piano w/ a few regional/national wins. Performed with professional orchestra. #1 in State for Cell Biology. Siemens Semifinalist.
[li] Interview?: Yes, interviewed w/ medical research professor. We talked about music, teaching (I teach for Mu Alpha Theta), and an array of topics that interested me. </p>[/li]
<p>[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[<em>] State or Country: The Deep South, USA
[</em>] School Type: Public Magnet
[<em>] Ethnicity: Asian
[</em>] Gender: Male
[<em>] Legacy Yes/No: No
[</em>] Recruited Yes/No: No
[li] Important ECs: Piano, Developing websites, Studying Chinese, Mu Alpha Theta (VP-11,Teacher-12), Science Olympiad (VP-11,Pres-12), Peer Assistance Team (Tutor-11, VP-12), Bioenvironmental Research (11-12).</p>[/li]
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[li] Financial Aid: Yes. Middle income bracket. </p>[/li]
<p>[/ul]Other Factors (weaknesses, strengths, etc.): </p>

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General Comments/Congratulations/etc:
Very glad I got in! Congrats to all! Looking forward to meeting the Class of 2013!</p>

<p>For those rejected/deferred: After looking at some of your profiles (sorry, I was curious!), I thought wow... this guy/girl's gonna be really successful in life! I'm sure you'll find the perfect match school even if you don't think so at first! College is just the beginning! GOOD LUCK (Y'ALL)!</p>

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<p>I guess people are either celebrating or ..doing more app essays right now.</p>

116

<p>Umm, Im pretty sure that Albinogorilla's post is a joke.
Sorry if im wrong</p>

117

<p>well, it is lol
and so is Penngineering!
both have 1 post with bad stats into M&T</p>

118

<p>Probably same person.</p>

119

<p>soysauce...join the party...i'm using FB to distract myself right now. just made a new one hahahaaaa...<em>sobs</em></p>

<p>congrats to all who made it.
and to those who were deferred/rejected -- it's okay! life goes on! Penn is just only one great school out of many others!</p>

120

<p>Decision: DEFERRED</p>

<p>Stats:
School applied to: WHARTON
SAT Verbal: 590
SAT Math: 670
SAT Writing: 660
SAT Total: 1920
SAT II: Math II 610, MATH I 730, KOREAN 740, SPANISH 670
ACT: -
AP/IB taken/scores: No
GPA weighted:
GPA unweighted: 3.9
Rank or % estimate: Top 10%</p>

<p>Subjective:
Essays: Why Penn was good, Common App was really good, 217 was ok
Optional Essay: mediocre.
Teacher Recs: Both were amazing!
Counselor Rec: We're really close..
Hook (if any): Languages (5), Multicultural
Interview?: Ok</p>

<p>Location/Person
State or Country: Washington
School Type: TINY
Ethnicity: Asian American
Gender: Female
Legacy Yes/No: No
Recruited Yes/No: No
Important ECs: Creation of my own business, Math Club, Volunteering (lots and lots), etc.
Financial Aid: Nope</p>

<p>Additional Comments: Considering the fact that my SATs, academics, etc. were horrible, I think I was pretty lucky to be deferred :)</p>