Official Penn ED Decisions - Class of 2010

<p>Sorry to differ with what Christopherson has said, but the statistics don't lie. If you were deferred last year, you had about a 10% chance of getting in RD. I think, in fact, this was lower than the total RD admit rate. My son was also admitted RD after ED deferral...and since he was a legacy a letter was sent by the 'alumni admissions office' to me (he never knew about it, I chose not to tell him) to say this would be the case. I never checked afterwards on the numbers, but I suspect they were straight. </p>

<p>So, while you should not 'give up', also do not assume that having applied ED gives you a leg up. Penn definitely wants kids who want them, so logic would have it that the ED application would be in your favor on some sort of a level. I am just not sure how that translates into all the numbers...</p>

<p>All this said, there were 21% more ED applicants this year than last. I would say all bets are off, therefore. </p>

<p>So what can you do? Here are my suggestions (unscientific as they were effective in only one case)...</p>

<h1>1. If you want to pursue Penn, then have your guidance counselor or regional rep or the person who interviewed you try to find out what/if anything put you into the deferred pile. This is the only thing you need to do now. If you learn something you can change, do so; if you can't, you can't...</h1>

<h1>2. Make sure all your other applications are very well done, reflect the best of you and your desire to go to all those other great schools on your list!</h1>

<h1>3. Write a letter to Penn (not this week, give it a rest) telling them you are still interested, and why. Include in that information something about any new acheivements, etc. Don't resend a full resume.</h1>

<h1>4. Ace your finals if you haven't already taken them. Send the excellent first semester grades to Penn, and your 3rd quarter grades when they come out if they are excellent too.</h1>

<h1>5. My son sent another recommendation. He had a senior year teacher who could not have written as personal a recommendation in October as he did in January...</h1>

<h1>6. My son also sent one of the essays he wrote for another school. It said something different about him that he had not been able to incorporate in his original Penn application.</h1>

<p>I am really not sure how much else you can do. We were surprised this worked for my son. I don't think he had totally given up on Penn on the one hand, on the other hand he knew he kind of had to in order to get the other applications in good shape (none were done when the ED decision came out). A year earlier his older brother had been rejected at his ED school. Both of them did great in the RD round, and both are happy where they are, but would have been happy at many places in fact. Remember how confident you felt before all this started, and try to make sure that you reflect that in every thing you write hereon out. All will be fine. Good luck.</p>

<p>robrym, I definitely agree with you...it isn't easy getting in RD after an ED deferral. However, if you truly convey your passion to the admissions office, you DO stand a better chance in the RD pool simply b/c Penn already knows you will be an automatic matriculant. </p>

<p>Knows11 - To be quite honest, I didn't really do much other than write the letter. However, my College Counselor did call my regional admissions rep to advocate on my behalf. I actually got a chance to speak with my admissions rep and she told everything in my application was solid except my "Why Penn" didnt quite measure up...She told me I needed to convey my passions more strongly. I hope this helps, Good Luck!</p>

<p>Decision: Accepted!</p>

<p>[ b]Stats:[ /b][ list]
[ *] SAT Verbal:700
[ *] SAT Math:680
[ *] SAT Writing:660
[ *] SAT II:700 (U.S. History) 690(Math IC)
[ *] ACT:28
[ *] AP/IB taken/scores: Euro (4), U.S (5)., Spanish (3), Spanish Lit, Bio, English
[ *] GPA weighted:3.77
[ *] GPA unweighted:no clue
[ *] Rank or % estimate:N/A</p>

<p>Subjective:
[ *] Essays: Strongest part of application
[ *] Teacher Recs:strong
[ *] Counselor Rec:very strong
[ *] Hook (if any): Teacher (highly selective summer position), Oxford University summer program, class pres, pres of many clubs</p>

<p>Location/Person:
[ *] State or Country:Ohio
[ *] School Type:Highly Competetive Private
[ *] Ethnicity: White
[ *] Gender:Male
[ *] Legacy : Yes
[ *] Recruited : No
[ *] Important ECs:
[ /list][ b]Other Factors:
[ b]General Comments/Congratulations/etc: for real, congrats to all Penn '10, we are gonna have a great time nest year. All those defferals and rejections, you guys are gonna get in somewhere great, dont fret.</p>

<p>Decision: ACCEPTED CAS</p>

<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] SAT Verbal: 690
[</em>] SAT Math: 800
[<em>] SAT Writing: 720
[</em>] SAT II: 800 Spanish, 760 USH, 750 Math II
[<em>] ACT: n/a
[</em>] AP/IB taken/scores: 5 AP Calc AB, 4 AP English Lang., 4 APUSH
[<em>] GPA weighted: 4.2
[</em>] GPA unweighted: unknown
[li] Rank or % estimate: Top 10%</p>[/li]
<p>[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[<em>] Essays: Good
[</em>] Teacher Recs: Good
[<em>] Counselor Rec: Good, I assume
[</em>] Hook (if any): None</p>

<p>[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[<em>] State or Country: Pennsylvania
[</em>] School Type: Private/Catholic
[<em>] Ethnicity: Caucasian and Native American (Seneca)
[</em>] Gender: Male
[<em>] Legacy: No
[</em>] Recruited: No
[li] Important ECs: Senior Class President, NHS President, Young Democrats Club Founder[/li] [/ul] General Comments/Congratulations/etc: Congrats to all my future classmates!</p>

<p>[ 670] SAT Verbal
[ 730] SAT Math
[ 700] SAT Writing
[ 740] SAT II
[ *] ACT
[ 9] AP/IB taken/scores:Calc, Bio, US: 5
[ *] GPA weighted: 3.95
[ *] GPA unweighted: 4.75
[ *] Rank or % estimate: top 4%</p>

<p>[ /list][ b]Subjective:[ /b][ list]
[ *] Essays: pretty entusiastic
[ *] Teacher Recs: must have been great
[ *] Counselor Rec: great!
[ *] Hook (if any):</p>

<p>[ /list][ b]Location/Person:[ /b][ list]
[ *] State or Country: CA
[ *] School Type: public, Palos Verdes Peninsula High School
[ *] Ethnicity: Asian
[ *] Gender: Female
[ *] Legacy Yes/No: no
[ *] Recruited Yes/No: no
[ *] Important ECs: Varsity Cheer (4 yrs, National squad, captain), Varsity Gymnastics, Choreo Dance Team, Spanish National Honors Society (VP) Peninsula Athletes for Community Service (VP), PV Football & Cheer Head Trainer
[ /list][ b]Other Factors:Internship, National Student Leadership for Law and Advocacy
[ b]General Comments/Congratulations/etc:yaya so happy
HONESTLY HAD TO IDEA HOW I GOT IN!!! i was initially going to apply to the College of Arts and Sciences because it is easier than Wharton but i decided that i couldnt see myself any other place than Wharton... so basically shoot high!!! totally unexpected!!!</p>

<p>I think for Wharton (for people surprised they were rejected) actually considers your physical appearance as an important factor (they ask that you send a photo). I sometimes wonder if overweight people or people with a less attractive face are being rejected. A lot of Wharton guys are athletes and a lot of the Wharton girls are attractive.</p>

<p>joharmon..actually thats an interesting point. I would think they would want brains & looks, not just brains. Someone who comes off as confident in their picture looks more pleasing than someone who comes off as being shy and perhaps overweight. </p>

<p>There was a study shown that good looking people get paid higher salaries and get more respect...looks sell.</p>

<p>Looks have nothing to do with it...that's ridiculous</p>

<p>thanks for the compliment joharmon86. I'm flattered that my GREAT looks got me into Wharton. I agree with you guys 100%!</p>

<p>So the Brad Pitt photo worked? ;)</p>

<p>haha... real funny...ha</p>