Official Yale RD Decisions - Class of 2010

<p>*Decision: Denied (RD) * :( :(</p>

<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] SAT: 2330 (800 CR, 760 M, 770 W)
[</em>] SAT IIs: 760 Lit, 750 US History, 700 Math 2
[<em>] GPA: 4.0 unweighted, school doesn't weight
[</em>] Rank: 1/385 **
[li] *Other stats: * 5 on AP US History, 5 on AP French Language, [/li]4 on AP English Lit. My school only offers 9 AP classes total, 6 of which I will have taken by the time I graduate.
National Merit Finalist
4th place at state History Day
Finalist at DECA International Competition, 5th at DECA state competition
AP Scholar
Several piano awards
3-year Varsity letter award winner + coach's award
Several art awards
[li] ** Senior year courseload: *[/li]Honors English (University of Washington curriculum)
AP Calculus AB (highest math course offered)
AP Chemistry
AP Psychology
Newspaper Production
Contemporary World Problems
[li] *
Number of apps from my school: ** Just one - me.[/li][li] ** Prospective majors listed on app: ** Economics[/li][/ul]
Subjective:[ul]
[li] ** Essays:
I liked it, but apparently it didn't fit their tastes. Also mailed in a supplementary essay.[/li][li] Teacher Recs: ** One was very good, one must have very good because she loves me.[/li][li] *Counselor Rec: * I didn't read it, but it was probably pretty unexceptional and standard. Each counselor has hundreds of students to take care of and probably up to 100 senior college recs to write. I know him pretty well, though, and he should have good things to say about me.[/li][li] *ECs listed on app: *[/li]Piano (10 years)
Varsity Swimming (3 years)
French Club President and VP
DECA Treasurer
School Newspaper copy editor and reporter
National Honor Society peer tutor
Volunteering at local library
Progressive Youth of America (political awareness group)
Art
Band (Clarinet)
[li] ** Work Experience: ** Casting internship for a cirque production company that usually takes only college interns.[/li][li] ** Hook (if any): ** None apparently[/li][/ul]
Location/Person:[ul]
[li] ** State or Country:
Washington[/li][li] School Type: Large suburban public, 1800+[/li][li] Ethnicity: Chinese[/li][li] Gender: ** Female[/li][/ul]Other Factors:** Strong test scores and academic record and courseload all through high school. Weaknesses could be not enough sparkle and leadership in ECs, few high-level awards. And probably my essays did not stand out enough.
General Comments: Congrats to those admitted, and for those who didn't get in, prestige isn't all that matters and I'm sure you'll be
happy wherever you end up! Besides, wouldn't you rather go to a school that truly appreciates and values you for who you are?
Remember, :D ** Individuals determine destinies, not institutes. ** :D
It's been quite a ride, and I've enjoyed it with all of you!</p>

<p>whats DECA man</p>

<p>*Decision: Rejected *</p>

<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] SAT: 770M, 680V, 650W
[</em>] SAT IIs: 720MI,700USH, 630LIT
[<em>] GPA:4.40
[</em>] Rank:2/150
[<em>] Other stats: 5 AP Euro, 3 AP Chem
[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[</em>] Essays: Excellent
[<em>] Teacher Recs: Good
[</em>] Counselor Rec: Excellent
[<em>] Hook (if any): Bilingual
[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[</em>] State or Country: NJ, USA
[<em>] School Type: Parochial
[</em>] Ethnicity: Greek-Cypriot
[li] Gender: Male[/li][/ul]Other Factors: no interview
General Comments: CONGRATS TO TALIBAN JOHN AND EVERYONE ELSE...NYU STERN HERE I COME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>

<p>Decision: Rejected </p>

<p>Stats:
SAT: 2130
SAT IIs: 800/780/760
GPA:4.0
Rank:1/900
Other stats: 12 ap's
Subjective:
Essays: I thought were good
Teacher Recs: awesome
Counselor Rec: ?
Hook (if any): fishing, tennis, traveling
Location/Person:
State or Country: IL
School Type: public
Ethnicity: white
Gender: male
Other Factors: lots of ec's
General Comments: I have been either rejected or waitlested by all the ivy schools I have applied to so far</p>

<p>"Where are you gonna go, Ice falcon?"
Stanford, I think, but its going to depend on aid. I got full merit from vandy and about 1/2 off rice, so I'm trying to decide if paying full ticket price for stanford or harvard is worth the difference. All else being equal, I would probably pick stanford (I know, I'm a dirty west coaster).</p>

<p>Decision:ACCEPTED</p>

<p>STATS:</p>

<p>SAT I: 620(M),680(CR),680(W)</p>

<p>SAT IIs:750(Bio E), 660(Math1C),660(Us History)</p>

<p>GPA: 6.74 on a scale of 4.00</p>

<p>Rank: 1 / 594</p>

<p>AP Classes: (Block Schedule school: 4 classes a day. Online enrichment included) </p>

<p>10th
AP Biology
AP World History</p>

<p>11th
AP Chemistry
AP English Language
AP US History
AP Art History (online)
AP Microeconomics (online)</p>

<p>12th
AP Computer Science (online)
AP Macroeconomics (online)
AP Calculus
AP Physics
AP US Government and Politics (online)
AP English Literature</p>

<p>Community Service: 353 hours (no required amount; top three seniors for service hours)</p>

<p>Other stats:</p>

<p>Beta Club President that setup school tutoring programs for afterschool and for two feeder schools</p>

<p>Public Relations for Key Club and Spanish Honor Society</p>

<p>Taken 13 APs while school offers only 12, taken the most APs in my schools history</p>

<p>first Hispanic Valedictorian</p>

<p>only student to take 2 APs in 10th grade and make As in them</p>

<p>Hispanic activist in community</p>

<p>very involved in church: band/usher</p>

<p>Some awards:</p>

<p>Metro PCS Community Scholar (finalists)
Tampa Tribune Honor Scholar
Published in newspaper for committment to beta Club</p>

<p>SUBJECTIVE:
Essays: Great, one about an influential character that I admire and live my life by, and one about my Hispanic church (very unique)</p>

<p>Teacher Recs:OMG...glowing, stellar, spectacular! All "top few of my career" , and with such insight into my character with direct unequaled praise! "fervent hispanic leader...passion for cultural unity...embodies the strengths of the Puerto Rican culture...naturally enriched the class...perfect fit for Fuerza Latina...admit him now!...character and passion all enriched with his Puerto Rican culture"..."he has inspired me to be my best...challenges me in literary discussion...best piece of writing from 2006 literature students...online classes extraordinary evidence of his willingness to take educational risks...Valedictorian a byproduct of intellectual curiosity...enrichment of AP Art history is wooven into his consciousness and make his writings so compelling...asset to the reputation of harvard"</p>

<p>Interview: awesome...we connected in our love for cutural celebration and we had a common vigor and energy. This was a stunning interview and I could tell that she REALLY wanted me to get in!</p>

<p>Counselor Rec: OMG....stellar, glowing, spectacular....mostly ranked "Top few of my career" and "best Beta President ever" (she is the club sponsor), "He is the reason for tutoring at our school and the community" Most rigorous schedule that I have seen in my 34plus years counseling/teaching"..."a perfect fit for Harvard's AHEAD prgram..."</p>

<p>Hook (if any):Puerto Rican, internet AP classes, extra year of school online, First Hispanic Valedictorian, rural and limited resources school, hispanic activist, many/diverse AP classes, independent tutoring programs, very passionate about tutoring, culture, and religion</p>

<p>OTHER INFO: </p>

<p>State or Country:Florida</p>

<p>School Type: very rural and public</p>

<p>-School SAT/ACT Avg: 989/21
-percent going to a 4 year college: 40% </p>

<p>Ethnicity: Puerto Rican/ Hispanic</p>

<p>Gender:Male</p>

<p>Perceived Strengths/Weaknesses: Grades, rank, interview,recs, essays, EC involvement / ALL TESTS SCORES except Bio E</p>

<p>Accepted to Yale, Princeton, Duke, and Cornell</p>

<p>Decision: Accepted!</p>

<p>Stats:
SAT I (by section):760 verbal, 700 math, 730 writing (2150. eek!)
SAT IIs: 730 US History, 730 literature, 760 math II c
ACT: 33 (34 english, 35 reading, 33 math, 29 science (ouch))
APs:5 Euro, 5Art History, 4 US History, 4 Calculus
IBs: n/a
GPA, Weighted and Unweighted: 4.0 UW, 4.35 W
Rank: 2/324
Senior Yr Courseload:AP Economics, government, Latin VI independent study, Calculus III at a local college, choir, AP Biology, AP Lit and Comp
Number of Apps from Your School: 7 (or more...not sure?)
Other stats: Studied Latin III independently, did honors physics . </p>

<p>Subjective:
ECs listed on app: president/secretary of our state Junior Classical League organization (around 800 students) and founded a Latin club at our school this year. My main responsibility as president was organizing a three day convention for 400 students. Other than that, I was editor of our school paper, on the executive board for national honor society, was a section leader in choir, take piano and voice lessons, and had leads in our school musicals.
Job/Work Experience: Lifeguard/swim lesson instructor; 40 hours during summers
Essays (subject and responses): one was on my latin obsession (how even though its dead its still worthwhile and then examples as to how it has changed my life), and then the other compared my 74 year old piano teacher to my 4 year old sister.
Teacher Recs: Another plus. I cried when I read the rec from my Latin teacher. The other was from my sophomore AP Euro teacher, which was also very complimentary.
Counselor Rec: I had my principal write it, and it was glowing. I think this helped, b/c there were several applicants who applied from my school, and their recommendations were just written by counselors. I didn't have him write this for my princeton app (nor did I apply to princeton EA, nor did I submit my voice tape) and I was waitlisted at Princeton. I'm thinking those factors had something to do with it...for what its worth.
Interview (feel and general location): Went well. Nothing smashing.</p>

<p>Location/Person:
Optional Essay Submitted? Yeppers
State or Country: WI
School Type, Average Stats of School: Suburban, public school. We are pretty respected in the area
Ethnicity: white
Income Bracket: Middle
Gender: Female
Hooks: Latin???? Not quite sure.
Strengths/Weaknesses: Extracurriculars/maybe test scores?
Why you think you were accepted/wait listed/denied: </p>

<p>Probably a few reasons...first of all, I've been told that ad comms look for leadership and passion; between my essays, my extra curriculars, the independent study I did two summers with my Latin teacher, her recommendation, and the awards I had gotten on Latin tests, it was pretty obvious I was a wannabe Roman. Besides that...I'm not really sure. My teacher recommendations were definitely solid, as well.</p>

<p>Other Factors:I was deferred EA.
General Comments/Congratulations/Venting/Commiserations,etc:</p>

<p>I was also accepted to Marquette, UW-Madison, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Yale, and then waitlisted at Princeton. </p>

<p>I'm actually still in shock, because I had solid plans to attend UW-Madison next year, and was really excited about being a Badger (I would say, "I'm 99% positive I'm going to Madison...with the 1% being the chance that I get into another school and can also afford it). I wouldn't even let myself go the Yale website because I didn't want to think going there was an option, and even if I got in, I was positive my family couldn't afford it. I really encourage those looking at the selective colleges to love your safety school...because then when you are accepted to one of the more selective colleges, its even more exciting... but more importantly, if you are not accepted to your dream school, you already have a solid plan for your education. That was definitely the best thing I learned about the admissions process. Have a school you know you can get into and afford, and will be happy attending. It made the whole process a lot less stressful for me, because I could definitely have been attending UW-Madison this fall.</p>

<p>*Decision:Accepted!!!! *</p>

<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] SAT I (by section):1850; 640V; 640M; 570W
[</em>] SAT IIs:640(bio), 570(Math iic)
[<em>] ACT:27
[</em>] APs: Bio(5)
[<em>] GPA, Weighted and Unweighted:5.5W;4.0
[</em>] Rank:1/122
[<em>] Senior Yr Courseload:Not extream only two APs and the rest honors but I take alot of courses outside of school.
[</em>] Number of Apps from Your School:3
[li] Other stats:4.0 from local community college taking courses since freshman year. Also, studied at three other colleges including Oxford, on scholarship.(Not a transfer student) </p>[/li]
<p>[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[<em>] ECs listed on app:Three Varsity sports since 9th grade, Captin of two, all public in one. President of three school clubs. PSTV (local tv station) reporter. Have interviewed top gov. officials. Insane list of other activities, Basically no sleep.
[</em>] Essays (subject and responses):Amazing! I worked on it for about 3 months. It talked about my struggle to recieve an education, while pulling myself out of the ghettos of Phildelphia. Also, I snuck in an essay in which I wrote about my experience with a person whom had trecher collins and how that inflenced me to aspire to become a surgeon. It was 5 pages but got me in none the less.
[<em>] Teacher Recs:Very Good not fantastic or anything but I have strong relationships with my teachers and it showed in their recs.
[</em>] Counselor Rec:Amazing! I made it my mission in 9th grade to talk to my counsler at least once a day. We have an extreamly strong realtionship which def. came out in her rec. </p>

<p>[<em>] Interview (feel and general location):Did not have one. Two busy!!!!
[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[</em>] Optional Essay Submitted?Yes see above^
[<em>] State or Country:PA
[</em>] School Type, Average Stats of School:Public; Magnet school
[<em>] Ethnicity:African-American
[</em>] Income Bracket:Lets just say, "Government Cheese has become my greatest friend."
[<em>] Gender:Male
[</em>] Hooks:Im from the projects, don't see to many of those in the pile do ya?
[li] Why you think you were accepted/wait listed/denied:I have had to struggle through alot esp. to recieve my education. Colleges could easily see this in my essays, ect. They know im going to work hard and will stop at nothing to make the most of my college experience.[/li][/ul]Other Factors:I had some very well known people throw in some recs. and make phone calls on my behalf, including senators and Congressmen that i have interviewed in the past.
General Comments/Congratulations/Venting/Commiserations,etc:Overly excited I love Yale, but Im utterly confused as where I want to go still... I wish the best of luck to everyone and know that you will do well wherever you wind up...</p>

<p>rejected after being deferrrrred. ohh well. i tried. suprisingly im not that sad..</p>

<p>of course i got into every other school i applied to, but my fav school hahah
i guess the world works that way</p>

<p>good luck everyone!!</p>

<p>*Decision: Accepted! *</p>

<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] SAT I: 760V 740M 630W
[</em>] SAT IIs: 730Lit 730USHist 670IC
[<em>] ACT: 33
[</em>] GPA: 4.23
[<em>] Rank: 1/165
[</em>] Other stats: Student Delegate to Board of Education, District Advisory Council Cabinet Member, Consultant to Asian Heritage Street Festival (50,000 estimated attendees), Mock Trial President (San Francisco Champions), State Assembly Certificate of Recognition for community service, San Francisco City Certificate of Honor, $10,000 Margaret O'Donnet top S.F. student leader award, School JSA Founder/President, JSA Norcal Speaker Pro-tempore, school Populist Party founder/president/editor, California Scholarship Federation President, DonorsChoose student board member, Lifetime California State Arts Scholar for Theater Arts, Tutor, School Site Council Secretary, Parent Teacher Student Association Executive Board Member, Student Admissions Officer for School, Williams College Book Award, Coca Cola Scholar, California-Hawaii Elks Most Valuable Student National Competition Nominee, numerous other awards and events attended. One random one is Prom Prince.
[<em>] # of apps from your school: 3, I think
[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[</em>] Essays: okay
[<em>] Teacher Recs: amazing
[</em>] Counselor Rec: "NEVER have I had a student..."
[<em>] Community Recs: San Francisco Superintendent, Board of Education Commissioner, Partner at a law firm, and one from the principal
[</em>] Hook (if any): educational policy + arts + academics + politics/leadership ?
[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[<em>] State or Country: California
[</em>] School Type: Arts Public Magnet School
[<em>] Ethnicity: Chinese
[</em>] Gender: Male
[<em>] Perceived Strengths/Weaknesses: Student Leadership and community service, interest in the arts, WELL-ROUNDED!
[</em>] Why you think you were accepted/rejected/waitlisted:
[/ul]Other Factors:
General Comments/Congratulations/Venting/Commiserations,etc: Congratulations to everyone who made it. I hope we become fast friends. I understand how it's like to be really disappointed. I'm so sorry for those that didn't make it, i know many of you are more deserving than me. I hope you got into somewhere equally amazing. Best of luck.</p>

<p>Decision: Rejected</p>

<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] SAT I (by section): M:670 V:640 W:640
[</em>] SAT IIs: Lit: 750 EB: 690
[<em>] ACT: 28
[</em>] APs: none
[<em>] IBs: 5s on Spanish and Math
[</em>] GPA, Weighted and Unweighted: 3.41
[<em>] Rank: We don't.
[</em>] Senior Yr Courseload: All IB + AP Calc
[<em>] Number of Apps from Your School: 2
[</em>] Other stats: National Achievement Finalist, National Merit Commended
[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[<em>] ECs listed on app: StuCo, Cheerleading, Track and Field, Spanish Club, Anime Club Co-founder,
[</em>] Job/Work Experience: None
[<em>] Essays (subject and responses): Okay I guess...not very sincere
[</em>] Teacher Recs: Amazing.
[<em>] Counselor Rec: Really good.
[</em>] Interview (feel and general location): Borders, went really well.
[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[<em>] Optional Essay Submitted? Yes.
[</em>] State or Country: Missouri
[<em>] School Type, Average Stats of School: Competitive Public
[</em>] Ethnicity: African America
[<em>] Income Bracket: Lower-Middle
[</em>] Gender: Female
[<em>] Hooks: I never know
[</em>] Strengths/Weaknesses: Good interview, but I look bad on paper?
[li] Why you think you were accepted/wait listed/denied: I didn't take enough SATIIs and it didn't spend much time on the essays. And my lack of good stats.[/li][/ul]Other Factors:
General Comments/Congratulations/Venting/Commiserations,etc: I don't feel bad about not getting in. I'm actually relieved because I would have taken a space of someone who really wanted it, and I didn't. Congrats to everyone who got in and good luck to those waitlisted!</p>

<p>arthas liu -
DECA = Distributive Education Clubs of America</p>

<p>it's "an association of marketing students" - similar to FBLA, but with a larger network and more competitions.</p>

<p>*Decision: ACCEPTED *</p>

<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] SAT I (by section): M:740 CR:720 W:760
[</em>] SAT IIs: USHIST:760 LIT:760 M1:740
[<em>] ACT:
[</em>] APs: Calc BC, Physics C, US Hist, Euro Hist, Biology, Stats, Govt, Human Geo, Enviro Sci, English
[<em>] IBs:
[</em>] GPA, Weighted and Unweighted: 4.0 uw
[<em>] Rank: 1/370ish
[</em>] Senior Yr Courseload: Max
[<em>] Number of Apps from Your School: None to my knowledge
[</em>] Other stats:
[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[<em>] ECs listed on app: Republican Club, Oklahoma Teenage Republicans, a local Civic Group, a local Community Service Group, JSA Club
[</em>] Job/Work Experience: Paged for State Legislators, Worked at Supermarket during summer of 10th
[<em>] Essays (subject and responses): Futuristic Biography (relating my love of politics)
[</em>] Teacher Recs: Never read
[<em>] Counselor Rec: Never read
[</em>] Interview (feel and general location): Over the phone, but great!
[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[<em>] Optional Essay Submitted?: Yes
[</em>] State or Country: Oklahoma
[<em>] School Type, Average Stats of School: Avg Public
[</em>] Ethnicity: Cauc.
[<em>] Income Bracket: ~100k
[</em>] Gender: Male
[<em>] Hooks: Politics (Oklahoma Libertarian-Republican)
[</em>] Strengths/Weaknesses: Biggest Strength was my passion for politics. Biggest weakness was my SAT performance.
[li] Why you think you were accepted/wait listed/denied: I found something that I loved and devoted all of my extra time to it.[/li][/ul]Other Factors:
General Comments/Congratulations/Venting/Commiserations,etc: I have great respect for all of us who took the time to apply to some great colleges this year. Whether accepted, rejected, or waitlisted, we are the future of America and can make anything we want to out of our lives.</p>

<p>One more thing...HARVARD SUCKS! (<a href="http://www.harvardsucks.org/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.harvardsucks.org/&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p>

<p>Decision: Waitlisted</p>

<p>Stats:
[ul]
[<em>] SAT: 1600/1600
[</em>] SAT IIs: 800 MathII, 800 Chemistry, 770 Literature
[<em>] GPA: 4.0UW
[</em>] Rank: 4/513
[<em>] Other stats: PSAT 232, 9 APs with 5s
[/ul]
Subjective:
[ul]
[</em>] Essays: Solid at least
[<em>] Teacher Recs: Excellent, and two great additional ones
[</em>] Counselor Rec: Should be great
[<em>] Hook (if any): TASP, Fed Challenge Economics competition 3x nationalist
[/ul]
Location/Person:
[ul]
[</em>] State or Country: MO
[<em>] School Type: Large Public
[</em>] Ethnicity: Asian
[li] Gender: Male[/ul]</p>[/li]
<p>Other Factors:[ul][<em>] Extracurriculars: Fed Challenge Economics club, huge time investment
[</em>] Why I think I was accepted/deferred: Erm, no clear EA interest, only average interview, two equally desrving girls in my school admitted; took my spot
[*] Other thoughts: This app was always an afterthought, so I suppose Yale's admissions committee did its job (MIT bound '10!)[/ul]</p>

<p>Decision: ACCEPTED</p>

<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] SAT I (by section): 2320 (790 M, 760 CR, 770 W)
[</em>] SAT IIs: 800 Math IIc, 760 USH, 730 Phys.
[<em>] APs:
[</em>] GPA, Weighted and Unweighted: 98.125 w
[<em>] Rank: 18/330
[</em>] Senior Yr Courseload: AP Spanish Lang., Chem., Eng. Lit., U.S. Gov., Phys. C: Mech, electives
[<em>] Number of Apps from Your School: I'm the only one that comes to mind but I'm sure there were more. I am the only accept.
[</em>] Other stats: Research awards, including national finalist @ Siemens and top 10 @ Intel STS
[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[<em>] ECs listed on app: Astronomy research, Science Olympiad, ass't. editor of school paper news section, track
[</em>] Job/Work Experience: Paid research this past summer :)
[<em>] Essays (subject and responses): Pretty good. The Common App one was about how I discovered astronomy and how I came to love it, and how that passion has developed over the years. The one that's been getting all sorts of critical raves demonstrated my passion for astronomy and my reasons for applying to Yale by comparing astronomy to sex, and oh boy, there was a lot to write about :p
[</em>] Teacher Recs: I would imagine they were as good as I could have wanted, but I didn't see them (though I heard about them). One was from my science research teacher, one from my English teacher, and one was from my research mentor. The people I picked really like me, so...
[<em>] Counselor Rec: Same.
[</em>] Interview (feel and general location): None (applied RD).
[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[<em>] Optional Essay Submitted? Indeedy!
[</em>] State or Country: NY (Long Island)
[<em>] School Type, Average Stats of School: Competitive public, only sends a few kids to Ivies per year, although we're having a damned good year this year. No HYP in at least three years although this year it looks like we're getting a kid to all three!
[</em>] Ethnicity: White/Jewish
[<em>] Income Bracket: Upper-middle?
[</em>] Gender: Male
[<em>] Hooks: Research. I definitely demonstrated my passion for astronomy, and backed it up with demonstrated success in research that's going to really impact the field.
[</em>] Strengths/Weaknesses: Strengths were, again, the research and the awards from Intel and Siemens, along with two essays about astronomy, one which had a very healthy dose of my personality and humor. Great recommendations. Weaknesses were relatively low class rank and possibly a lack of "well-roundedness" (a fear that might have been alleviated by my class choices and some of my ECs, but I'm certainly not as crazy well-rounded as most of the people here!!)
[li] Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/denied:[/li][/ul]Other Factors: Likely letter, so the official decision wasn't much of a shock, hence the delay in posting here!
General Comments/Congratulations/Venting/Commiserations,etc: See you all at Bulldog Days, and it looks like Yale is winning out over MIT and Caltech, so quite possibly see you all next year too!!</p>

<p>APFreak--Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!! See, you don't need Harvard ;) So what's the plan for next year?</p>

<p>hey GuitarMan, the Harvard adcoms must have been out of their minds, but the Yale adcoms had the right idea :) Glad to see another hardcore science geek coming to Yale. Just curious, what made u decide Yale over Caltech with Axline? See u at Bulldog Days man.</p>

<p>props to guitarman , am i missing something or do i see he's not in the top 5 percent of a public school that sends few kids to ivies, why are people surprised he didn't get into harvard</p>

<p>umm, he was #3 at Siemens and top 10 in Intel STS, the largest and most prestigious precollegiate research competitions, making him arguably one of the top science students in the nation.</p>

<p>well as you can c ec's dont matter as much we all think. For reliable evidence look at the stats of accepts for HYP. Quickly scan through, excluding URM's. The vast majority are 2230+ with 1-5 rank. WITHIN Those stats ec's will make a difference, but not for students who don't qualify for that.</p>