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<p>“So, when did UM handed out graduate degrees? Before 1890s?”</p>

<p>rjk, I am disappointed at you! :wink: I thought you would at least try to rebuttal me on this one with facts…</p>

<p>Here:</p>

<p>“Michigan’s first Master of Arts degree was conferred in 1849 and the first PhDs in 1876-the first doctorate awarded by a public university in the United States. As more students elected to pursue advanced degrees, the need was recognized to administer graduate work in a systematic way. In 1912 a separate Graduate Department was created that was independent of the University’s individual academic units.”</p>

<p>Then I would respond:</p>

<p>Good! But that is not the point… The point I was trying to convey is that there was a time when Michigan was nicknamed “The University of Automobiles.” And that Detroit’s Auto industries have always had tremendous impacts to UofM. Anyways, thanks to UAW, Michigan has diversified, with large endowments and patent revenues, it no longer relies on Detroit or the State as much as in the past which is good. </p>

<p>Quote:</p>

<p>"What is Rackham?</p>

<p>The Rackham Graduate School</p>

<p>Horace H. Rackham was an attorney who drew up the papers of incorporation for the Ford Motor Company. He became one of the original twelve shareholders of Ford and a member of the Board of Directors. Upon his retirement, Horace and his wife Mary made philanthropy their chief interest. His will set aside a portion of their wealth to establish the Horace and Mary Rackham Fund to “carry out and administer the benevolent, charitable, educational, and scientific trust created by Horace H. Rackham to promote the health, welfare, happiness, education, training, and development of men, women and children… regardless of race, in the world….”</p>

<p>In 1935, University President Alexander Ruthven proposed to the Rackham Trustees that the Fund provide an endowment for a Graduate School to support fellowship and research support, as well as funds for a building that would bring faculty and graduate students together for intellectual exchange across disciplinary boundaries. The Rackham Building was dedicated in 1938. </p>

<p>The Rackham Fund’s trustees also allocated a $4 million endowment to fund faculty research and fellowship support in the Graduate School. At the time, the Endowment was the largest gift ever in support of graduate education in the United States.</p>

<p>The flexibility of Rackham funds has allowed successive deans to launch new projects and provide seed money for major initiatives that benefit the wider University. The Ford School of Public Policy, the School of Social Work, and the Bentley Historical Library, among others, benefited from Graduate School funding and administrative oversight at crucial stages of their development.</p>

<p>Funding from the Rackham Graduate School has also fostered the development of over twenty path-breaking graduate programs in which faculty work with graduate students in emergent fields that cut across the disciplinary and administrative structures of the University. Over the years, interdepartmental degree and certificate programs have been developed in such interdisciplinary fields as Biophysics, Anthropology and History, Neuroscience, Design Science, Social Work and Social Science, Complex Systems, Museum Studies, and Nanoscience and Technology. In recent years, Rackham has supported endeavors such as the Graham Environmental Sustainability Institute and the Michigan Memorial Phoenix Energy Institute."</p>

<p>Source: [What</a> is Rackham? About Rackham Rackham Graduate School](<a href=“http://www.rackham.umich.edu/about_us/what_is_rackham/]What”>http://www.rackham.umich.edu/about_us/what_is_rackham/)</p>

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<p>Thanks for the PSA Sparkeye. I knew you’d follow through. ;-)</p>

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<p>I was going to post this for the new year. But I might as well reveal to you all why I am a realist when it comes to the timeline for Ohio State to achieve the status of eminence. I’ve factored in all elements which will propel TOSU to the next level in terms of academics, and here is another big secret (catalyst) based on my assessment: The impact of Ohio Utica Shale Oil Rush of 2011~2061.</p>

<p>Not 200, not 2000, not 20,000, but over 200,000 high paying jobs immediately!!</p>

<p>[Johnson:</a> 204,000 Gas Jobs Headed to Ohio - News, Sports, Jobs - The Intelligencer / Wheeling News-Register](<a href=“http://www.theintelligencer.net/page/content.detail/id/560867/Johnson--204-000-Gas-Jobs-Headed-to-Ohio.html?nav=515]Johnson:”>http://www.theintelligencer.net/page/content.detail/id/560867/Johnson--204-000-Gas-Jobs-Headed-to-Ohio.html?nav=515)</p>

<p>[Ohio</a> wells called ‘phenomenal’ ; The Utica Shale play is producing for Chesapeake.](<a href=“http://www.istockanalyst.com/business/news/5449382/ohio-wells-called-phenomenal-the-utica-shale-play-is-producing-for-chesapeake]Ohio”>http://www.istockanalyst.com/business/news/5449382/ohio-wells-called-phenomenal-the-utica-shale-play-is-producing-for-chesapeake)</p>

<p>[Buckeye</a> Oil Billions Will Unleash an Ohio Manufacturing Tech Boom - Forbes](<a href=“http://www.forbes.com/sites/markpmills/2011/09/26/buckeye-oil-billions-will-unleash-an-ohio-manufacturing-tech-boom/]Buckeye”>Buckeye Oil Billions Will Unleash an Ohio Manufacturing Tech Boom)</p>

<p>[www.oilindependents.org</a> Utica – The Shale Revolution Coming to Ohio](<a href=“http://oilindependents.org/utica-the-shale-revolution-coming-to-ohio/]www.oilindependents.org”>http://oilindependents.org/utica-the-shale-revolution-coming-to-ohio/)</p>

<p>[Utica-shale</a> wells going gangbusters | The Columbus Dispatch](<a href=“http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/business/2011/09/29/utica-shale-wells-going-gangbusters.html]Utica-shale”>http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/business/2011/09/29/utica-shale-wells-going-gangbusters.html)</p>

<p>[OSU</a> plans research center for shale boom | The Columbus Dispatch](<a href=“http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/business/2011/09/23/osu-plans-research-center-for-shale-boom.html]OSU”>http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/business/2011/09/23/osu-plans-research-center-for-shale-boom.html)</p>

<p>[McClendon</a> Values Utica Shale at Half a Trillion Dollars, NGI Reports - MarketWatch](<a href=“http://www.marketwatch.com/story/mcclendon-values-utica-shale-at-half-a-trillion-dollars-ngi-reports-2011-09-21]McClendon”>http://www.marketwatch.com/story/mcclendon-values-utica-shale-at-half-a-trillion-dollars-ngi-reports-2011-09-21)</p>

<p>[Utica</a> Could Transform Ohio Rust Belt into Diamond Belt](<a href=“404 Not Found”>Utica Could Transform Ohio Rust Belt into Diamond Belt)</p>

<p>Sorry… for all the links, I am tired today…Brain is not working… gonna get some rest. lol The links are helpful imho.</p>

<p>[Shale</a> attracts chemical giants | The Columbus Dispatch](<a href=“http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/business/2011/10/03/shale-attracts-chemical-giants.html]Shale”>http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/business/2011/10/03/shale-attracts-chemical-giants.html)</p>

<p>“Thanks for the PSA Sparkeye. I knew you’d follow through. ;-)”</p>

<p>Anytime, rjk!! There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that Michigan is an excellent academic institution; however, know that Ohio State’s got lots of momentum now!! (football excluded)… The stars are beginning to align, my prophesy on the rise of Ohio State shall finally come true!! :)</p>

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<p>“The stars are beginning to align, my prophesy on the rise of Ohio State shall finally come true!!”</p>

<p>I’d say around 2061 it will happen. :-)</p>

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<p>Actually that oil shale deal is big. I recently drove up though central Pennsy and Central NY and there were oil folks all over the area. Can’t miss the big Halliburton trucks.</p>

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<p>I was just as skeptical as anyone else when the news first broke out back in 2008 about the discovery. So far everything seems to be on the right track, the initial drilling of wells across eastern Ohio proved to be very promising. Besides the ones in America, oil giants from as far as Japan and Europe are flocking to the area as we speak. And even if nothing were to be found, landowners of these rural Ohio counties are already reaping the benefits by leasing property to drillers seeking oil and gas deposits in the Utica shale fields. In only the last 6 months, the oil companies have pumped more than $1 billion into Ohio, but only 14 wells have been drilled so far according to the Cleveland Plain Dealer reports (a total of over 30,000 wells are planned).</p>

<p>It is also reported that the competition for land in rural Ohio has driven bonus prices up for landowners. A landowner who previously could expect $500 per acre and a guaranteed 12.5 percent royalty on the value of gas produced on their property now could receive about $5,000 per acre and a 19.5 percent royalty.</p>

<p>Source: [Rural</a> Ohio is the Wild West as gas and oil companies compete for drilling rights | cleveland.com](<a href=“http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2011/10/gas_companies_swarm_in_frackin.html]Rural”>Rural Ohio is the Wild West as gas and oil companies compete for drilling rights - cleveland.com)</p>

<p>Quote:</p>

<p>“We have 800 jobs open in our company, after already hiring 3,000 people in the first eight months of this year. And the average pay of these jobs is $75,000. So these are good jobs,” McClendon said.</p>

<p>Ohio’s institutes of higher education are convinced, and working to help shape a new gas and oil workforce. On Sep. 21, at the Ohio Governor’s 21st Century Energy and Economic Summit held on the campus of Ohio State, Gov. John Kasich urged colleges and universities to develop coursework that could assist the potential oil boom.</p>

<p>“We have a great opportunity for workforce development,” Kasich said at the Summit. “We have 81,000 job openings in Ohio and we can’t fill them with qualified people. We have a chance to leverage this issue to provide the training to people who can be involved for a generation or more in energy development. That’s pretty exciting stuff.”</p>

<p>Kasich then mentioned a meeting he had with Ohio State President E. Gordon Gee.</p>

<p>“I saw Gordon yesterday, I said, ‘Gordon, I don’t know if you want to train any of these people to work on Utica and Marcellus.’ He said, ‘I’ll train ‘em all.’ That’s Gordon. ‘I’ll train em all.'”</p>

<p>Gee may have only been slightly exaggerating. On Sep. 22, the second day of the aforementioned Summit, Ohio State announced the establishment of the Ohio State Subsurface Energy Resource Center. The center will carry out research and be an asset to those interested in careers dealing with subsurface energy.</p>

<p>It’s an occupation in need of some new blood. “We’ve got an aging workforce,” said Rhonda Reda, executive director of the OOGEEP, adding that the average age of the workforce is 50 years.</p>

<p>Reda said that the majors most likely to earn students high-paying positions within the oil and gas industry include geology or petroleum geology, seismology and petroleum engineers.</p>

<p>According to Reda, not all of the positions require a four-year degree. Reda noted a large need to fill strictly labor positions and stressed the importance of creating new certificate programs at community colleges and vocational schools for CDL licensing and welding necessary to create oil pipelines.</p>

<p>“These are not minimum wage jobs,” she said.</p>

<p>And since it’s believed these gas wells could produce for decades, we’re not talking simply jobs; these could become lucrative careers.</p>

<p>Reda also pointed out that the gas and oil boom could be of benefit to the schools themselves, either by agreeing to lease their property for drilling or pipeline right-of-ways – leases that pay substantial bonuses and royalties."</p>

<p>Source: <a href=“http://www.theotherpaper.com/news/article_957aeae4-fb3d-11e0-a8ef-001cc4c03286.html[/url]”>http://www.theotherpaper.com/news/article_957aeae4-fb3d-11e0-a8ef-001cc4c03286.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Quote</p>

<p>“Ohio is a manufacturing-centric state – the third largest manufacturing economy amongst all the states. A lot of Ohioans will invest in and build the kind of local businesses they know, in the manufacturing sector. A lot will shower their alma maters with donations, where Ohio universities have deep roots in manufacturing-centric education. Overall, expect a fresh flow of capital into a manufacturing-technology-centric region. Nothing unleashes innovation like capital…”</p>

<p>[Is</a> Ohio on the Cusp of an Unprecedented Economic Boom? - By Reihan Salam - The Agenda - National Review Online](<a href=“http://www.nationalreview.com/agenda/278517/ohio-cusp-unprecedented-economic-boom-reihan-salam]Is”>Is Ohio on the Cusp of an Unprecedented Economic Boom? | National Review)</p>

<p>Quote:</p>

<p>"No. 1: Columbus, Ohio. In 1997, the Battelle Memorial Institute, Ohio’s largest research center, based in Columbus, managed a single lab for the U.S. Department of Energy with an annual budget of $1 billion. A decade later, Battelle oversees seven major laboratories for different federal agencies; current budget: $4 billion.</p>

<p>The institute has become a force in almost every area of emerging technology, especially life sciences and energy research. One of its children, Velocys, is working on a way to cut the cost of capturing the 3 trillion cubic feet of the world’s stranded natural gas by converting it to easily transportable liquid."</p>

<p>[Top</a> 10 Up-And-Coming Tech Cities - Forbes.com](<a href=“http://www.forbes.com/2008/03/10/columbus-milwaukee-houston-ent-tech-cx_wp_0310smallbizoutlooktechcity.html]Top”>Top 10 Up-And-Coming Tech Cities)</p>

<p>Gov. Kasich calls it, “The Gold Rush.” ;)</p>

<p><a href=“Gov. Kasich: From solar to shale, energy can bring jobs - YouTube”>Gov. Kasich: From solar to shale, energy can bring jobs - YouTube;

<p>Go Bucks!! :)</p>

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<p>Quote:</p>

<p>By Encarnacion Pyle
The Columbus Dispatch Friday October 28, 2011 12:01 AM </p>

<p>"Gee and two of his right-hand men, Provost Joseph A. Alutto and Chief Financial Officer Geoffrey Chatas, spoke to professors and staff members about why the school is exploring leasing the parking operation and privatizing other units.</p>

<p>They said OSU needs an estimated $5 billion more to reach its goals of attracting better students and brighter faculty members and becoming one of the top universities in the country. Gee said the university is in the midst of a $2.5 billion comprehensive fundraising campaign, but it needs another $2.5 billion, at a time when state and federal money for higher education is shrinking.</p>

<p>“The pie will not grow,” he said.</p>

<p>So, Ohio State needs to examine every university service and asset to determine whether it advances the school’s essential mission of teaching students and doing research, Gee said."</p>

<p>Source: [Staff</a> leery of ideas to ?privatize? Ohio State operations | The Columbus Dispatch](<a href=“http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2011/10/27/staff-leery-of-osu-privatization.html]Staff”>http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2011/10/27/staff-leery-of-osu-privatization.html)</p>

<p>Hmm… Based on my estimate, President Gee has invested roughly $2.5 billion in school’s academic advancements since his returning to TOSU, which is without any doubt, unprecedented in Ohio State’s school history. And now, he is planning to spend Five more billion-dollars!!! lol </p>

<p>Just to give you guys some perspective, school like Michigan (our bench mark university) with a huge endowment of $7.8 billion allows 4.5% annual spending from the fund which is equal to $266 million this fiscal year according to Ann Arbor News. Oh Well, I guess on Ohio State’s campus, money does grow on the buckeye trees!! :wink: The reality is, I do agree with President Gee that there is really no way around it, the school must be willing to spend by many-fold in order to become one of the top universities in the country through recruiting, teaching and researching within a very short period of time.</p>

<p>Source: [$7.8B</a> University of Michigan endowment at highest level ever](<a href=“http://annarbor.com/news/university-of-michigan-endowment-at-highest-level-ever/]$7.8B”>$7.8B University of Michigan endowment at highest level ever)</p>

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<p>“Just to give you guys some perspective, school like Michigan (our bench mark university) with a huge endowment of $7.8 billion allows 4.5% annual spending from the fund which is equal to $266 million this fiscal year according to Ann Arbor News. Oh Well,…”</p>

<p>I concur.</p>

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<p>Quote:</p>

<p>"Another safeguard is the pile of dough on which OSU sits: $4.1 billion in cash, short- and long-term investments, including its $1.4 billion gifted endowment.</p>

<p>“Ohio State has about two times in cash and investments on our balance sheet” what it has in debt, Chatas said."</p>

<p>Source: [OSU</a> ?in solid shape? despite new debt | The Columbus Dispatch](<a href=“http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2011/10/30/osu-in-solid-shape-despite-new-debt.html]OSU”>http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2011/10/30/osu-in-solid-shape-despite-new-debt.html)</p>

<p>hmm… I certainly underestimated TOSU’s real finance capacity! :)</p>

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<p>[Ohio</a> State University graduation rates rise | The Associated Press | News | Washington Examiner](<a href=“http://washingtonexaminer.com/news/2011/11/ohio-state-university-graduation-rates-rise]Ohio”>http://washingtonexaminer.com/news/2011/11/ohio-state-university-graduation-rates-rise)</p>

<p>Cancer Research</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.abc6onyourside.com/shared/newsroom/top_stories/videos/wsyx_vid_14566.shtml[/url]”>http://www.abc6onyourside.com/shared/newsroom/top_stories/videos/wsyx_vid_14566.shtml&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>4.1 billion for a school the size of osu isnt that great to be honest.</p>

<p>OSU is going to have a tough time being a top 50. Spend a week at UCLA or Chapel Hill and you will see why.</p>

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<p>@slipper1234,</p>

<p>“4.1 billion for a school the size of osu isnt that great to be honest.”</p>

<p>On top of the on-going $2.5 billion fundraising campaign. I think it’s decent.</p>

<p>“OSU is going to have a tough time being a top 50.”</p>

<p>If you say so… TOSU is widely recognized as a Top-10 Research University in the country and ranks higher than both UVA and UNC on most programs based on NRC ratings for the last few decades. It’s USNWR ‘Undergraduate Reputation Index Score’ is currently ranked at #36 in the nation. In terms of selectivity, TOSU is pretty much tied with UCLA in terms of ACT and SAT scores since 2007. USNWR also has ranked Ohio State as one of the top academically ‘Up-and-Coming’ institutions in America four years in the row. So, perhaps you could elaborate more than just a week stay in making your point, because I used to live in Orange County and I really don’t see why… @_@" Still, thanks for bumping up the thread! :)</p>

<p>[Sasaki</a> | Portfolio | Ohio State University Framework Plan](<a href=“http://www.sasaki.com/what/portfolio.cgi?fid=533]Sasaki”>http://www.sasaki.com/what/portfolio.cgi?fid=533)</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.bfhstudios.com/blog/tag/the-ohio-state-university/[/url]”>http://www.bfhstudios.com/blog/tag/the-ohio-state-university/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>

That’s new and shocking. I wonder who is dreaming. You or I? :wink:

I know this one is in your dream. :smiley:
TOSU SAT range: 1160–1310
UCLA SAT range: 1170-1420</p>

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<p>“That’s new and shocking. I wonder who is dreaming. You or I?”</p>

<p>Oh yeah, it’s Top-8 this year in terms of Research Expenditures at around $850 million. And next year is expected to top $1 billion, joining Michigan & Wisconsin. :)</p>

<p>“I know this one is in your dream.
TOSU SAT range: 1160–1310
UCLA SAT range: 1170-1420”</p>

<p>Well, most kids in the midwest region submit their ACT instead of SAT scores:</p>

<p>TOSU</p>

<h1>ACT Composite: 26 / 30</h1>

<h1>ACT English: 25 / 31</h1>

<h1>ACT Math: 25 / 31</h1>

<p>[Ohio</a> State University Profile - SAT Scores and Admissions Data for Ohio State University](<a href=“http://collegeapps.about.com/od/collegeprofiles/p/OSU.htm]Ohio”>Ohio State University: Acceptance Rate, SAT/ACT Scores)</p>

<p>UCLA</p>

<h1>ACT Composite: 24 / 31</h1>

<h1>ACT English: 24 / 32</h1>

<h1>ACT Math: 25 / 33</h1>

<p>[UCLA</a> Profile - SAT Scores and Admissions Data for UCLA](<a href=“http://collegeapps.about.com/od/collegeprofiles/p/UCLA_Profile.htm]UCLA”>UCLA: Acceptance Rate, SAT/ACT Scores, GPA)</p>

<p>So, I’d say that we are pretty even there!! :p</p>

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<p>^The Research Expenditures is related to but not the same thing as reputation (widely considered). For the former, you have to take the number of faculty into consideration. Everything is large, including number of faculty, at OSU.</p>

<p>The range doesn’t really tell the whole story. If you look at the breakdown, UCLA has considerably larger % of students in the 30-36 or 700+ range. But it also has larger fraction at the other end of spectrum, which is likely due to the fact that UC system places a premium on class rank (97% in the top-tenth for UCLA vs 54% for OSU). A person with a top class rank in a very crappy high school (there are plenty in California) and with a low ACT score can still get in (the UC system also gives bonus points to individuals that overcome “adversity”, which may really be a cover for affirmative action). On the other hand, a candidate slightly outside the top-tenth may have a very hard time to get into UCLA even with a near perfect ACT while OSU would be a safety in this case. Overall, for a candidate from a semi-decent or top high school, admission is considerably more competitive at UCLA.</p>

<p>P.S. UCLA would have been the University of Chinese (& Koreans) at Los Angeles if class rank were less of a factor. :)</p>

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<p>^^ Thanks for the clarification, Sam! And I agree!! That is the reason why I gave TOSU a roughly 10-15 years of time frame in order to catch up to the like of Michigan & UCLA (Top-5 Public) in terms of overall academics. At the moment, however, TOSU is perhaps one of the most aggressive in terms of selectivity, in which ave of 0.5 point improvement on ACT score is recorded since 2005. I will also predict TOSU to catch up to UCLA and UCB’s student selectivity both in SAT & ACT by 2016 as it’s clearly outlined in Sasaki’s framework to draw more qualified students and faculties to campus in the next five years.</p>

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<p>Ohio State for 2010:</p>

<p>ACT Composite: 26 / 30
ACT English: 25 / 31
ACT Math: 25 / 31</p>

<p>Michigan for 2010:</p>

<p>ACT Composite: 27 / 31
ACT English: 27 / 33
ACT Math: 27 / 33</p>

<p><a href=“http://collegeapps.about.com/od/collegeprofiles/p/UMich_profile.htm[/url]”>http://collegeapps.about.com/od/collegeprofiles/p/UMich_profile.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>AND NOW A YEAR LATER:</p>

<p>Michigan for 2011:</p>

<p>ACT Composite: 29 / 33
ACT English: 29 / 34
ACT Math: 28 / 34</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.admissions.umich.edu/drupal/about-our-applicants[/url]”>http://www.admissions.umich.edu/drupal/about-our-applicants&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Michigan joined the CA this past year. See what happened to the 25-75 distribution? Sparkeye; you just assume other universities will stay stagnant while tOSU rises. As you can see, they don’t.</p>

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<p>^I’d subtract 1 point from both end due to the fact that the “a year later” numbers are for the admitted, not enrolled. Still a nice jump.</p>

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<p>^Uh, nice try…that’s for the University of Michigan’s Admitted Students for the Fall of 2011. The smartest students in the admitted pool probably didn’t enroll as is the case for the vast majority of schools besides places like Harvard and Yale. We will have to wait for Michigan’s Official Common Data Set for 2011-12 to come out before we can draw any conclusions about whether U of M’s student body is statistically stronger than it was before.</p>

<p>Here are the most recent versions of the CDS for both The Ohio State University and Michigan (Enrolled Students Fall 2010):</p>

<p><a href=“Office of Budget and Planning”>Office of Budget and Planning;
<a href=“http://oaa.osu.edu/irp/publisher_surveys/2011_Columbus_Campus_CDS.pdf[/url]”>http://oaa.osu.edu/irp/publisher_surveys/2011_Columbus_Campus_CDS.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Michigan for 2010:</p>

<p>ACT Composite: 27-31
ACT Math: 27-33
ACT English: 27-33</p>

<p>OSU for 2010:</p>

<p>ACT Composite: 26-30
ACT Math: 25-31
ACT English: 25-31</p>

<p>Michigan has the stronger student body for sure but the difference isn’t as great as Michigan alums I know imagine it to be. One could make a good argument that U of M and OSU are academic peers.;)</p>