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OOS for both (But I may be able to get instate tuition sophomore year for UMass because I have so much family in MA and could "move in" with them.)
ACT Single highest composite: 32 Superscore composite: 33
SAT Single highest combined: 1370 Superscore combined: 1400
Single highest composite: 2110 Superscore composite: 2180
GPA: UW 96.1/100
Class Rank: 18/428 (4.2%) UW (my school doesn't weight)
5 passed APs (7 more this year)</p>
<p>So I think I have an OK chance at OSU Honors and a pretty good chance at UMass Honors. I'm planning to go pre-med, not sure what i want to major in but for now I've just listed Biology as my intended major. It likely won't change to an area very different. How do the 2 schools compare for pre med? Biology and other science/health related majors? How do the honors programs compare? Any other opinions on the 2 schools?</p>
<p>Pre-med is pre-med. Someone else could probably speak better to the competitiveness of pre-med classes (aka, is the atmosphere cutthroat vs. collaborative?) but in general, medical schools don’t really care where you went to undergrad. Ohio State students get the slight edge in selectivity - more of them were in the top tenth or top quarter of their graduating class than UMass-Amherst students, although both schools have relatively similar average SAT scores (Ohio State’s math scores are slightly higher). Still, the vast majority of UMass-Amherst’s students had a 3.5+ in high school, and the class rank thing could be because they have more students from the Northeast/New England, which is the home of lots of really competitive elite high schools.</p>
<p>No, you won’t. Where your PARENTS live determines your home state.
You have to be VERY careful. If you go to a school thinking you’ll get instate rates, and then do NOT, you’ll have to leave the school…and transferring is not a good idea for a premed…and it can mean little or no aid. </p>
<p>How will you be paying for college, including the OOS costs?</p>
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<p>Premed is premed. Nothing special or different at either school or at virtually any school. It’s all the same at any decent school. </p>
<p>WHAT are your parents saying about how much they’ll pay each year? </p>
<p>@julliet thanks for the reply. I do hear a lot about undergrad not mattering as much where you go as much as how well you do wherever you go. I’m just hoping to get some inside info or personal opinions as to which would be more enjoyable/ worth the money. As for instate residency, would I qualify if one of my parents gained MA residency for 12 months? My dad’s family lives in MA and he has spent most of his life there. However, he has been in the Air Force for the past 12 years, which gives him options for state residency in states other than the one he currently lives in because we move from base to base every few years. We are currently living in DE while he is still a resident of WA (where we lived 10 years ago) and he said that he believes he can get MA residency again. Would this apply to me as a dependent for tuition purposes?</p>
<p>Check the residency requirements for U Mass, most state schools have them detailed on their websites.</p>
<p>Ohio State may have more research opportunities because the med school is on the same campus. In Massachusetts U Mass Medical School is in Worcester, which is a drive from Amherst. </p>
<p>Would Univ. of Washington be a possibility? Nice school, and part of the western med school consortium.</p>
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<p>When would he know FOR SURE that he could get MA residency? Wouldn’t he have to relocate there? </p>
<p>Is your dad saying that he’ll pay all costs for college either way? If not, how much will he pay? </p>
<p>I think you need to quickly make some back-up plans unless your dad is quickly certain that he could get residency there (and find out if you instantly get it for tuition purposes.</p>
<p>My parents cannot afford to pay for my tuition- even if I were to go instate. It’s a struggle to pay for the AP exams, SATs, ACTs, and applications and I’ve had a part time job to help with that.
I have been applying for private local scholarships, working to save money, and trying to beef up my application for school scholarships, so that hopefully with a bit of need based aid, I won’t have to take out too much in loans. UMass offers better need based aid (not very much more, but still), but OSU offers more merit aid. With OSU, I qualify for enough need based and merit aid to get well below instate tuition. The UMass financial aid expectations seem far more ambiguous, so I guess I’ll have to see what I can get when I hear back from them in spring.</p>
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<p>They’re saying they’ll offer me some guidance in taking out student loans…</p>
<p>@2prepMom I really was considering University of Washington for a while. I used to live there, I love Washington, My dad has residency there, and it has great research opportunities for pre meds. However, my mother who is a little unrealistic has been trying to push me as far away from public schools as possible. She has always wanted me to apply to only prestigious private schools, which in most cases would not financially feasible. She would tell me how disappointed she was in me for wanting to apply to state schools all the time so I dropped all but OSU (as my safety school) for a while. My dad has been a bit more understanding and encouraging me to reconsider those schools, but the UW application deadline has passed :(</p>
<p>@gearmom Delaware. But I think she also has the choice between states that we’ve been stationed at in the past. She used to be in the Air Force too, but I think this has more to do with her being married to my dad who is still active duty.</p>
<p>The loan plan is not realistic. You need money for med school. How much do you think you can take out for four years? 27K in Stafford. Are your parents taking out PLUS loans?</p>
<p>You have a very short time for merit money. At Alabama you can get 2/3 off tuition with your stats. I think Baja would come in around 20k, is that right @mom2collegekids?</p>
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No…at Alabama she would get a FULL TUITION scholarship. This student has an ACT 32 …that qualifies for full tuition. So, final costs would be much less. </p>
<p>@Mydeskisamess Be sure that you send the ACT score to Bama…don’t bother sending the SAT…save your money.</p>
<p>YOU can’t borrow your way thru college. Your parents may not know that. </p>
<p>Alabama assured scholarship for stats…deadline Dec 15</p>
<p>PRESIDENTIAL SCHOLAR</p>
<p>A first-time freshman student who meets the December 15 scholarship priority deadline, has a 32–36 ACT or 1400–1600 SAT score (critical reading and math scores only) and at least a 3.5 cumulative GPA will be selected as a Presidential Scholar and will receive the value of tuition or $99,800 over four years ($24,950 per year) to be used towards undergraduate or graduate studies.**</p>
<p>Well, it depends. If she chooses the standard doubles housing, and carefully buys her books (used, rents, whatever), then the first year could be about $12k.</p>
<p>The first year can be the most expensive at Bama because the Freshman meal plan is required and it is pricey. After the first year, NO meal plan is req’d, so many save $ after that first year. </p>
<p>If the OP can get some extra private loans to help with those extra costs, take a student loan, and work/save over summers, she could probably cover all her costs.</p>
<p>If her parents will give her the money that they’ll get from the Tuition Tax Credit, that could be more money that she’d get. </p>
<p>Since she’s premed, if majoring in Chemical Engineering interests her (or any eng’g or Comp Sci), Bama would give her an additional $2500 per year. There are a few different premed tracks within the Col of Eng’g…my son did the ChemE premed track. </p>
<p>A student with a full tuition scholarship will see costs of about $7,678 per semester, or $15,356 per year. Of course, choosing more or less expensive living arrangements and the like can cause actual costs to vary somewhat.</p>
<p>Mydeskisamess, you have great stats. You should apply to every private school you can find that is generous with need based aid. Even though sticker price tuition seems high at those schools, if your parent’s income is low enough you will not pay much and it might very well be much less than any state school. Seriously. Look around at the privates with large endowments and run your NPC. You can do biology/pre-med pretty much anywhere. U Mass is a safety school for in state kids with your stats.</p>
<p>The COA includes the cost of the pricey private room “super suites”, therefore anyone who needs to be thrifty can choose the “standard doubles” and save about $3-4k per year. </p>
<p>This student can make Bama work if she works/saves over the summer, buys textbooks economically (online, used, rents), and takes out a student loan. she may also want to work about 8 hours a week during the school year for extra pocket money…my kids did that.</p>
<p>And if her parents are willing to give her the “tuition tax credit” that they will get back later on, that would be additional money. </p>