ohkay. convince me that i should choose Cornell.

<p>i had visited Cornell Day and i liked it (except a few points)
people were nice and all that jazzzzzz..</p>

<p>ohkay. only things that hinder me from choosing Cornell
are its weather (i'm from Florida) and its location (i luv Cities).</p>

<p>I do want to see snow couple times , but stuck in snow for half of year;;
I just read Cornell vs NU thread talking about a city doesnt really matter. but yeah;;; (how far is it from NYC??)</p>

<p>last but not least, I really want to be relax in a way (i have Duke in mind too)
but when i visited Cornell, people were not competitive or anything like that, but still constantly told (or warned) me how hard it is, small amount of sleep, and stuff like that
("i want to be laid back" does NOT mean i dont want to be challenged. i hope you understand)</p>

<p>ohkay. tell me, convince me why i shall choose Cornell (over Duke??) despite its location, weather, and stuff like that.</p>

<p>p.s : it's almost depressing how i like both schools and how those two schools are SO different from each other -_-''</p>

<p>Both are great. Duke is in the South, its an entirely different way of life/feel down there in the south. While many of the students are not from there, you still have to remember, most of the professors live there and have adapted to life in the South. It is probably a lot more laid back. However, with that being said, both places have outstanding academics. While the Dukies on the other boards will argue that it has similar and/or more prestige, Cornell is a member of the elite Ivy League and carries a big name no matter where you are from. I would personally choose Cornell b/c the area surrouding Duke isn't that nice and I do not want to go to a school where life seems to revolve around the success of its basbetball team. Good luck and you can't lose between these two schools --both excelent.</p>

<p>Yes, Duke is a nice school, however, as Dog said, it seems to me that life revolves around the basketball team, especially during March Madness. Also, if it were me, I wouldn't want to spend that much time in a southern university because I personally love the atmosphere in the northern schools. </p>

<p>Though it may be a lot of work, a Cornell degree carries huge potential all over the world. With international recognition as one of the world's finest institutions, Cornell has so much to offer. Besides it's incredible academics, Cornell offers many wonderful cultural opportunities, even with it's location. Ithaca is one of the coolest college towns I've been to, and there is always something going on in town or on the campus. </p>

<p>Also, as mentioned in many other threads, the ice cream is AMAZING!! lol, not that you should base your college decision on the ice cream, but it's really freaking good! It's one of the many perks to attending Cornell University. Well, either way you choose, I'm sure you'll be happy, but I think Cornell would offer you more than you could ever imagine.</p>

<p>Good luck, and have fun!</p>

<p>blackferrari, can you tell me more about northern college vs. southern college thing??</p>

<p>i've visited Duke as well. and even as a person who doesnt like sports that much, i really didnt find that basketball thing so annoying or anyhting like that.</p>

<p>Dog87, so you think, basically, Cornell is more well-known right. i thought ithaca isnt that nice campus town (i just mention it since you said duke's surrounding area isnt good) and Research Triangle Park seems to be really nice to me. Any comments on that??</p>

<p>Looking for any objective thoughts!!</p>

<p>whoa, ithaca not a nice campus town?! what with ithaca being on a hill, surrounded with the fingerlakes, walking home each day to a sunset over cayuga lake? the endless apple orchards (apple cider is REALLY GOOD too), the ithaca common like a quaint little shopping area straight out of some european city? granted, the bus (TCAT) is something to be desired, but i've slept on Libe slope until 3AM (just last week to boot) and see the twinkling stars above and the sparkling lake below....the cool clean breeze. if ithaca isn't nice, then no where is nice, as cornell constantly advertise itself as one of the most (if not THE MOST) beautiful campus in the US...</p>

<p>Ithaca is not a city but it is a great college town.</p>

<p>dreaming, you seemed pretty set on Duke in terms of location, weather and etc. I think in the end what you should consider is your intended major. Obviously, both schools are comparable in academics. However, Cornell is stronger than Duke at certain areas and vice versa. You probably talked to lots of premeds and engineers during your visit to get the impression that the classes are hard. I must say I agree with them 100%. But, if you can put in a decent amount of time everyday to keep up with all your classes, I don't think you will lose sleep. Cornell has a pretty laid back campus. You can find almost anything you want and participate in lots of events. If you really want to spend a few weekends in the city, you can definitely take a 4 to 5 hours long bus trip down to NYC. I doubt if you can get to a city like NYC in 5 hours from Duke. Anyway, good luck making up your mind.</p>

<p>in addition to his question, i want to know what is there to do at Cornell?</p>

<p>did do they have any entertainment come to perform, etc.</p>

<p>Dreaming honestly, they are both well known. On this site, ppl will argue that Duke is more well known (which is a fallacy and if you talk to anyone in the 'know' or employers, it will definetely be to the contrary). US News is one thing, so some people will claim that since Duke is ranked higher, it has more prestige--WRONG. Cornell, trust me, is more internationally recognized and probably has more national prestige than Duke. Duke is fabulous and don't get me wrong. However, Cornell is a member of the ivy league and no one can take that away. You are going to have to do some work here, but your degree will carry you far. Good luck!!</p>

<p>Entertainment....let's see Snoop Dogg is coming for Slope Day. Jimmy Eat World performed two weeks ago. Oh yeah, Jon Stewart was here earlier in the semester. I guess that's some kind of entertainment going on in a semester.</p>

<p>and it was strange...talking to bill nye...about sex of all things...<strong>regress back into my childhood of him on TV...feel better now</strong></p>

<p>ecc, i am not really set on Duke.
i'm really confused and lost because, to me, two schools seem to be very different (size, weather, strength, etc)</p>

<p>i like a Big Cornell, because i'd have more choices and resources
yet, I like a small LAC-like Duke because it seems to be more friendly and personal</p>

<p>Duke has a wonderful BME but not so great Engineering in general,
Cornell only has BME minor but a great Engineering in general.
(actually this is the MOST headache problem i'm facing. even though I am, FOR RIGHT NOW, wanting to do BME, but who knows after 2 years, you know T_T)</p>

<p>and this kinda contrasts can go on forever.</p>

<p>I was in a similar situation when I was choosing schools. Cornelll with strong engineering but only a BME minor versus another school with strong BME but a weak engineering program. I ended up not liking BME so it worked out for me. Here are a couple things you might want to ask yourself. Do you really know what BME is about? Have you considered other engineering disciples? Is BME something that sounds appealing but you don't know what you really want to do?</p>

<p>I'm not trying to flout Cornell. I'm trying to present important things to consider as you make your final decision. It's important to say that Cornell BME isn't weak. Duffield is housing the NBTC and a lot of good research is going on. One of my friends is going to do his M.Eng in BME next year at Cornell and this summer he will be doing research.</p>

<p>WOAH!!!!! Even though Cornell is great, do not mess this child's life up by speaking unfounded lies. Stanford is NOT a member of the ivy league, yet it KILLS CORNELL nationally and internationally. The ivy league name will not give you one bit of edge in a job application when the next guy went to MIT/CIT/DUKE/Stanford. Rant complete.</p>

<p>EDIT: Harvard, Princeton, and Yale are all on a higher echelon when it comes to ivies, so dont factor those in my argument. However "lesser" ivies like Brown and Cornell face stiff competition from giants like MIT and Stanford.</p>

<p>Does anyone really believe Duke is on the same level as Stanford besides US News?</p>

<p>"Lesser ivies"?</p>

<p>"Lesser ivy" again according to US News which has reached god-like status on this board.</p>

<p>In engineering, there is no Ivy that tops Cornell.</p>

<p>Wuttttttup Devil lol ;) Again man, we are back to this argument. Duke is not on par with CIT/MIT/Stanford. That is such a complete fallacy man. You seem so infatuated with those rankings. I remember that Cornell was ranked #6 one year. You are telling me that 3 years ago, Cornell was 8 spots different in terms of quality/prestige than it is today. That is completely wrong. You should look at the peer assessment scores man. Those gauage the true "prestige" of these schools, not some second-rate magazine. You can ask other truly informed ppl about this matter such as Alexandre on the Michigan board, who has actually devoted part of his job studying schools. He will tell you that Duke is not any better than Cornell, Brown, Hopkins, etc. That is wrong. Anyways, have fun at Duke and I wish you the best of luck there. Peace!</p>

<p>shizz. i have read and heard a lot about Biomedical engineering and what they do and make. And that's how i know and i like. but true that i do not have a first hand experience. (but again then, i really dont like any other engineering that much ;;.. like i kinda like nuclear engineering and space-engineering but i know both fields dont do any good, i heard and read)</p>

<p>oh also what school did you get into as well (a school with a strong BME but not good engineering in general)??</p>

<p>p.s : USNEWS totally baffles general population's perception of good school, i guess ?!</p>