<p>"It's not too late. You cannot miss your own deadline, but your school has a bit more time. My D's school told her to apply to additional colleges over the break, if necessary, and they will send her information to those schools after the break."</p>
<p>Wait do you mean that the transcript does not necessarily have to be sent by the deadline??</p>
<p>Sassafras,</p>
<p>Transcripts and recs. generally have a grace period, of about 3-5 days following the deadline. Universities tend not to look at it all right after January 2nd, since everyone just came back from the break. The first couple of days or week is generally meant for sorting.</p>
<p>Bottomline: It's just absolutely expected that you get your materials in on time, which can be done VIA the great internet. </p>
<p>So what are you waiting for? =D</p>
<p>wow, really? didn't know that. so even if the POSTMARK date is, say, jan. 3/4, and the deadline is jan 2, and teh site says "all things must be postmarked by jan 2" it's ok?!?</p>
<p>i think what koifish is trying to say is that they expect everything YOU are supposed to submit to be in by Jan 2 but there's a grace period for things submitted by others, which i agree with...i even think that grace period is longer than a week.</p>
<p>i didn't know that. i thought when they say it HAS to be postmarked by a certain date you HAVE to have ALL your stuff in (including teacher recs, etc) by then...</p>
<p>i guess not... :// by then the stuff will GET there quite late but if you all think it's ok.... i'll give it a shot.</p>
<p>see im a little curious about this. if an asian person has a 4.0UW and an SAT score of 2100, would they attribut it to grade inflation? or just say that she's a "bad" test taker?</p>
<p>i think most top schools would rather have a smart and really hardworking person than a REALLY smart and somewhat lazy person. in numerical terms they'd rather have a 4.0 and 2100 than a 3.5 and 2400.</p>
<p>"see im a little curious about this. if an asian person has a 4.0UW and an SAT score of 2100, would they attribut it to grade inflation? or just say that she's a "bad" test taker?"</p>
<p>gee thanks. </p>
<p>in my defense, i am a really poor standardized test taker. my time management skills are abysmal, and i just don't really think clearly on sat days... i did better on my act though. except for science. asdkfj.</p>
<p>Denzera, you bring up an interesting point. I've also read that low GPA and high test scores are seen as unfulfilled potential and that the college feels that the child needs to be challenged. However, this could prove highly untrue for many schools.</p>
<p>lol MK99... greed?</p>
<p>oh, u must be referring to physicians' high salaries? ppl don't need to be that awesome at chem to go into premed. 620 isn't too bad. she could just work hard in college</p>
<p>physician salaries really are insanely high.
<a href="http://www.allied-physicians.com/salary_surveys/physician-salaries.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.allied-physicians.com/salary_surveys/physician-salaries.htm</a></p>
<p>i mean, 6-figure salaries in first 1-2 years? then it skyrockets during 3rd year?:eek:</p>
<p>and this is all net incomes, after taxes n everythin</p>
<p>-future cardiologist here :)</p>
<p>ummm i took chemistry sophomore year but i took physics junior year, and then in senior year i decided to take the sat ii chem test, even though half the stuff had not been covered sophomore year. (bad idea)</p>
<p>so if you could diminish the talk about my stupidity i'd appreciate it.</p>
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physician salaries really are insanely high.
<a href="http://www.allied-physicians.com/sal...n-salaries.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.allied-physicians.com/sal...n-salaries.htm</a></p>
<p>i mean, 6-figure salaries in first 1-2 years? then it skyrockets during 3rd year?
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<p>If you're looking to get rich, medicine is the wrong profession. Remember, you need 4 years of expensive medical school, plus several years of internship/residency, before you start making any money. Once you start getting a nice salary and pay off your loans, you'll do very well but you'll likely never become super rich in medicine. </p>
<p>In comparison, if you go into finance, you can make six figures right out of undergrad. Or if you go into law, you can make almost $200K three years out of undergrad.</p>
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and this is all net incomes, after taxes n everythin
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<p>No, it's salary after expenses/hospital fees.</p>
<p>C2002 is very right. Medicine is the wrong profession to pursue into if you want to get rich. Yes, you'll make a nice salary when you're done but you have to look at the trade-offs. </p>
<p>You have 4 years of expensive med school, 3-5 years of residence (anything other than family medicine is more than 3 years) and then a fellowship of one to three years. That's about 10 years of training after college (maybe even more). During your residence you'll be making 45k a year (it is not unheard of for residents to have second jobs) and in your fellowship a little more.</p>
<p>To have a rewarding career in medicine you have to love science (you'll be reading and talking about it for the rest of your life), love caring for people and willing to work long hours (most doctors work at least 50 hours a week).</p>
<p>It is a beautiful career but also very demanding.</p>
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<p>my guess is you won't last in premed very long</p>
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3-5 years of residence (anything other than family medicine is more than 3 years) and then a fellowship of one to three years. That's about 10 years of training after college (maybe even more). During your residence you'll be making 45k a year (it is not unheard of for residents to have second jobs) and in your fellowship a little more.
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<p>i know for a fact that emergency medicine is also three years. Cardiology however is 5-7 years including fellowship. medicine is def a profession you have to be absolutely sure you want to do since there is usually no turning back once you commit. I've never heard of any resident having a second job...it is very easy to survive on 45k a year and besides it isn't humanly possible to have another job after working an 80 hour week, doctors do not wait tables at a diners.</p>
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it is very easy to survive on 45k a year
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<p>In a big city like NYC (which is where like 20% of the residencies are), when you're 26-30 and possibly married and maybe even starting to have kids? In NYC, you're a pauper if you make less than 100K.</p>
<p>i've talked to many residents at hospitals in manhattan and none of them wait tables at diners or have second jobs or are living on the street ....the hospital tends to make sure that you are able to make it by subsidizing housing etc.... they'd rather make a bit of effort making them comfortable than have a huge lawsuit on their hand because of a tired doctor. I am very well aware of life in NYC...i've been living in manhattan for 21 years.</p>
<p>haha ok first of all, i never talked about becoming "rich" or anything if u read my previous post. i never compared medicine to any other fields, like business/finance.</p>
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"my guess is you won't last in premed very long"
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and secondly, shraf i honestly think u are an idiot. forgive me for being vulgar/crude, but u really have no basis for saying that. i happen to love science, and even conducted research at an ivy league(one of the big 3) university over the summer with a world-renowned professor.</p>
<p>and i also applied for and attended a highly selective medical school program for high school juniors and seniors. i had the chance to witness open heart surgery and orthopedic surgeries, etc. i also learned about gasteroenterology, neurology and every other field. and i love everything about medicine. and i also love to help people.</p>
<p>and btw, my uncle is a neurosurgeon and he makes about a million each year, after taxes and insurance. how is that not a way to get "rich"? after a couple of years, he paid off all his debts and was on his way to becoming a multi-millionaire.</p>
<p>but don't get me wrong, i am not greedy or anything. money isn't really a motivating factor to enter the field of medicine, it's just one of the perks. and i never said there were no "tradeoffs" or anything in medicine. shraf i dunno if i sound angry or anything, but im really not. i just pity ur ignorance...</p>
<p>ok you guys might have misconstrued my statement that the salaries of physicians are high. but what i said is just that, and nothing more. would anyone like argue that any six-figure salary is low? i never said anything about becoming filthy rich, however.</p>
<p>i'm just saying, i'v seen many premeds who get into it for the wrong reasons and drop it very quickly.... "loving science" doesnt exactly mean you will become a doctor...there is alot more to science than becoming a doctor....but whatever, i'm not going to waste my time arguing with you since i'm supposedly ignorant despite being premed and having done a bunch of "premed" activities and taken the mcat.</p>
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ok you guys might have misconstrued my statement that the salaries of physicians are high. but what i said is just that, and nothing more.
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<p>yea, and it sounded greedy</p>
<p>shraf, i didn't call you ignorant because i thought u had no clue about the premed track or anything. i called u that because u said something stupid that you had no idea about. watever, i didn't mean to be hostile. im sure ur a successful premed student, and ur in columbia so it must count for something</p>