Omit or not ?

<p>Hi, I am a student who will make an application in this Fall, and now I am in a big dilemma because I have two transcripts.</p>

<p>I attended 4 years foreign university, but I messed up (GPA 2.2), so I came to America because I wanted to transfer to UC's though CCC and I wanted to study in America.</p>

<p>Currently, I have a 4.0 GPA, so I think that I will be able to get in UC's. However, if I report previous transcript, I guess it is not possible to get in UC's, and I actually hadn't known that I should report all my university transcripts until I met counselor.</p>

<p>After I knew that I should report all transcripts, I faced a dilemma.</p>

<p>Here are my questions.</p>

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<li><p>Should I report both transcripts? or not?</p></li>
<li><p>Will UC be able to find out my foreign university transcript if I omit it?</p></li>
<li><p>Is it possible to get in UC's even if I report both transcripts?</p></li>
</ol>

<p>Getting to the point…</p>

<p>The University of California system requires that you submit any and all college transcripts, even if you are an international student. </p>

<ol>
<li><p>So with that in mind, yes you must submit both transcripts.</p></li>
<li><p>I am not an international student so I cannot speak to how extensively the UCs will look into your background. However, if you do omit it and they find out you can probably forget about ever attending a UC school.</p></li>
<li><p>Whether or not it is possible, is up to each individual school. You have a strong upward trend and you can perhaps explain the gap in GPAs in your personal statement. </p></li>
</ol>

<p>I understand that you are worried about how your past performance will impact your admissions, but again you don’t have a choice to omit any past transcripts. Other applicants must also submit their past transcripts and you omitting yours would be highly unethical. Not to mention that if you were found out, it would definitely overwrite all of the hard work you have put into getting your current 4.0.</p>

<p>ima keep it real. If you transfer, the UC system doesnt look at your admissions statement. They dont look at your extra curriculars, they dont look at your Ws or Fs or trends. All they look at is your GPA. After they accept you, they MIGHT find out, but I doubt it. Ive heard that fin aid can call you out on it but I dont know if that’s true. They have thousands of applications to process. Once you’re in, you’re in. However, If you are worried about it, then I would report it. You can still get in with above a 3.0 I’m gonna do the same thing when I apply. Im not gonna be like all these punk **<strong><em>es out here who talk about all this integrity bull *</em></strong>. The truth is, its your life. Do what you want. Who cares? As long as you’re good with it and you get away with it, then F em.</p>

<p>Submit both, if you don’t and they find out the consequences will be dire. Also, they do check up on things sometimes. Even for ECs, they randomly audit people to see if they were really involved in the listed activities. After you get in, they DO check your transcripts, I nearly got rescinded because one of my schools sent a transcript late. Don’t try to hide things or lie, it’s not worth getting kicked out (or worse) over.</p>

<p>Depending on where you want to transfer, yes, you should be able to get into some of the UCs with both transcripts on record. The upwards trend will help you, and a 3.1 (I assume that’s your cumulative gpa?) isn’t that bad. Pre-reqs also make a huge difference in admissions… if you’ve done those and done well in them it’ll help your application.</p>

<p>If you’ve got your sights set on UCLA or Cal, admissions is pretty unlikely unless you’ve got a seriously compelling essay. At the lower tier UCs, I’d say you’re in. You didn’t really say which you were hoping for or your major or any of the other relevant information… but again, there’s a lot of factors that go into admissions.</p>

<p>You should absolutely report your foreign transcript!!! I was in a similar situation: 2 years of college overseas with an estimated, self-calculated 3.66 GPA, 1.5 years of community college with a perfect 4.0, like you. Honestly, they will take a brief glance at the classes you took overseas. Assuming you took all your admission requirements and major prereqs here at a cc, these are really the classes they will focus on. I guarantee your 4.0 CCC GPA will make you shine compared to other applicants. The thing is, the UCs don’t really have much of a basis to compare courses from a foreign university to their own… They will ask you for syllabi for the classes they find relevant to your application. Other than that, your foreign classes will have little impact. Also, if your foreign school did not use a scale like the GPA, you can argue other points. For example, I was top 5 / top 10 in my class overseas, but it was LITERALLY impossible to get all As (NO ONE did). You can argue something like this, if anything, that they shouldn’t just impose a scale on your grades when your school of origin didn’t. Either way, the classes you took overseas won’t be that important, as long as you complete your prereqs at a cc.
Only issue I can think of is you being over that unit limit that some UCs impose. As far as UCs go, I only applied to UCSD and UCI. UCSD rejected me because I was over the limit of units they set (seriously… 4.0GPA… but too many units…) Anyway, UCI accepted me, and some of my classes from overseas were even used to fulfill requirements and knock out a few classes (including upper division).
In the end, yes, you are required to report your foreign classes, whether you are an international student or a permanent resident or whatever. You can explain your school change in a little comment box separate from the essays, too. Maybe not all UCs read your long essays, but I’m pretty sure they do read the little explanations that go with your reported grades. Keep up that 4.0 CCC GPA and complete all your prereqs at a cc, that’s really what’s gonna matter.</p>

<p>If they find out you will be banned permanently from all UC campuses.</p>

<p>Just to point something out – this thread was made three months ago and the OP hasn’t logged onto his account since he posted the thread three months ago meaning he’ll likely never see these replies. You guys may have gotten trolled by mementomori who felt the need to bump this after three months of inactivity. Anyway, carry on… don’t mind me.</p>