On College Campuses, a Shortage of Men (New York Times)

<p>^^ Again, I don’t think girls are on a man hunt, desperately seking husbands or BFs, but still most would like a BF, even if only as icing on the cake.</p>

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<p>Re: post #13, I am very much a proponent of women’s college and I think too many young women overlook these truly fab institutions. But many are LACs in small towns, with Barnard and Spelman are the exceptions that immediately come to mind. At those two schools, being located in a major metro area gives female students not only access to college males at any number of local campuses, but also grad students and full-fledged professional males. </p>

<p>At the other women’s colleges - - Smith, MHC, Bryn Mawr, Scripps - - their proximity to coed schools often tips the the balance even more favorably for men at neighboring school. That’s certainly the case with BMC/Swatty/Haverford - - you have two fairly balance coed school (53% female), but when you throw BMC into the mix, the three-school ratio is 2female:1male!! The numbers are more balanced among the five colleges in western Mass, but only thanks to UMass (20,000 students; 50% male). If it were just 4 colleges - -MHC, SC, Hamp, Amherst - - the area would be more than 2:1 female.</p>

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<p>^^^Someone else on CC did the calculations a while back for the Five-College Consortium minus UMass–i.e. just the four private LACs–and came up with a gender ratio of approximately 6.7:1.</p>

<p>rocket6louise, just because I want my daughter to get married doesn’t mean I’m “pushing” marriage on her. </p>

<p>Getting married and having kids has nothing to do with the American Dream – it has to do with wanting companionship, romance, friendship, happiness, etc. If you don’t want to be married with kids one day, all power to you. I’m not going to force you to change your mind. But accept the fact that the vast majority of people on this planet want that.</p>

<p>Honestly, but dating should definitely NOT be a number one priority during college. Colleges are a place you go to get an education, not a husband!</p>

<p>It does not make me any less of a feminist to want to eventually get married. Yes, gender ratios were a consideration in my college search. No, I didn’t blindly rule out women’s colleges because of it.</p>

<p>(I happen to hold the opposite wish re: kids, but that is also irrelevant to being a feminist.)</p>

<p>My daughter wants a diverse student body- and this includes gender diversity. She wants male students on campus and in the classroom in just the same way that she wants whites, blacks, hispanics, asians, rich, poor, gay, straight, musicians, athletes and internationals on campus and in the classroom.</p>

<p>“(hard to find a college/uni that’s less than 57% female)”</p>

<p>Statistics says that about half are.</p>

<p>Well… No, statistics don’t say that exactly, but you’re still wrong. </p>

<p>By the way, UMich actually has more males than females (given it’s very close). </p>

<p>Also, every quote in that article just seems to indicate the reporter is good at finding stupid people. And while I’m sure this isn’t an original thought…</p>

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<p>…made me LOL.</p>

<p>"I consider myself a feminist and certainly don’t think women go to college for their “Mrs. degree.” But there is more to life than education and a career. Romance, friendships, eventual marriage – these are just as important in life as academics and jobs. So I don’t consider this article overwrought or ridiculous. I do think this is an issue. "</p>

<p>I agree. When I went to college, I wanted to get a good education and also have the opportunity to date.</p>

<p>I haven’t seen many posters from guys, or mom’s who have boys…But, I HATED this article. Yes, it spoke mostly to women and about women, but what it said about men was terrible. Geez. My kids and their friends (can’t speak about “all men” because I only really know my boys) do not go around scoring girls. </p>

<p>I think this article has a very sad message to our society. This is the message to boys on a daily basis: I can get into a better college than you. I’ll be more successful than you. Girls are so much more aggressive and boys are still faced with a double standard. That’s right, I said it. Ouch! Girls are not any smarter than boys, but they’re the ones getting to be valedictorians, going off to college. Why is that? because education is geared for women from the earliest years. (“sit down for extended times during the day. Hold a pencil. Read.”) All these are areas where boys don’t do well in kindergarten. It used to be that girls’ self-esteem would suffer in middle school and boys would catch up by HS, but this isn’t happening any more. Ever since the women’s movement, it’s the boys’ self-esteem that’s weakened from the get-go. And boys never catch up.</p>

<p>The article mentions that the US Commission on Civil Rights subpoenaed admissions data to determine whether schools were discriminating against qualified females. I don’t hear of any groups ensuring that boys are not discriminated against. We want it both ways, but boys are missing out.</p>

<p>Imagine how upset moms of girls would be if this article was about a guy: "“this girl came up out of nowhere, grabbed him by the wrist, spun him around and took him out to the dance floor and started grinding.” Message: it’s okay for a girl to be aggressive, but not guys. Guys would be locked up as sex offenders if they did this!</p>

<p>Professor Campbell at UGeorgia was quoted as saying “…women…are being victimized by men precisely because they have outperformed them.” What kind of message is that? My kids do not behave this way with girls. They are shy. Sensitive. Intimidated. They are smart boys, but in today’s world of girls trying to outperform men, they back off. My oldest kid, a smart, attractive 22 year old with beautiful eyes and gorgeous build hasn’t ever even kissed a girl. When I asked him if there was someone he really liked and tried to kiss, he said, “Yes. But she punched me in the face.”</p>

<p>My DD is very interested in a womens college (MHC), the ‘loss’ of men isn’t that important to her- she’s had boyfriends and has plans to get married and have kids- but right now the priority is her professional career. She couldn’t care less about how many men are on her (eventual) campus.</p>

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<p>lol.</p>

<p>aaa10charaaa</p>

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<p>Regardless of my personal thoughts on this matter, the first thought in my mind when I read this quote was as if men were purposefully underachieving just to victimize women.</p>

<p>"Imagine how upset moms of girls would be if this article was about a guy: ““this girl came up out of nowhere, grabbed him by the wrist, spun him around and took him out to the dance floor and started grinding.” Message: it’s okay for a girl to be aggressive, but not guys. Guys would be locked up as sex offenders if they did this!”</p>

<p>Unfortunately, I’ve seen posts on College Life board from guys advising that this is how to ask girls to dance. Apparently at least for some college students, that’s normal, expected behavior. :(</p>

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<p>That’s the tone I got from the entire article. Whose fault is it if women respond to the college guys who behave like morons? 60 / 40 isn’t favorable, but the article implies that most of these women are helpless children who desperately need a man and can’t be bothered to find one that deserves them. Are they implying that none of these women have cars and go off campus, or that none of these women can play the field (the exact same way men do) to find someone that’s more compatible than simply having XY chromosomes? </p>

<p>I guess I was raised to have a little more respect for women than that, and my parents came from a country where they still practice FGM.</p>

<p>The thing that’s so wierd, though, about the article, is that even in the early 80’s UNC-chapel hill had more women than men students, and none of the girls were grinding up on my H in a desperate attempt to get a boyfriend.</p>

<p>I mean, honestly, what’s THAT all about? What girl really thinks that grinding on some guy is going to get her a “boyfriend?” Maybe ______________, but not a boyfriend.</p>

<p>“Unfortunately, I’ve seen posts on College Life board from guys advising that this is how to ask girls to dance. Apparently at least for some college students, that’s normal, expected behavior.”</p>

<p>This is very much true, and not just for college students. Part of the reason I can only be convinced to go out to dance once or twice a year is because men, from 18 all the way to 30, will walk right up behind me and start grinding without so much as making me aware of their existence first. There was a debate in CL about whether or not it makes a man look like a pansy if he actually asks a woman to dance. Even with women saying that they did not want men to do this, the men insisted this was the right way to go. Completely weird.</p>

<p>As a parent of a daughter…maybe it is a blessing in disguise? I think the stats are something like 85% of those who marry prior to age 25 get divorced.</p>

<p>This article makes me kind of angry. I’m always so sick of hearing of how “victimized” women are. These girls are making their own CHOICE of their own free-will to date a jerk. Nobody is forcing them. How can women ever shed stereotypes of being a weaker sex when articles like this perpetuate the idea that a women is victimized because a man is able to control the relationship that shes so desperate to have. Wtheck?</p>

<p>And also the little part about guys not having to flirt and buy girls drinks… seriously? Buy your own darn drink. If a guy asked to buy me a drink I would politely refuse. I’m capable of buying my own things. Dinners, movies, dates included. I paid for my own half of the date when I first started dating my bf. </p>

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<p>meh, all this is thrown out when you’re going to a tech school >.></p>