One Incident of Hate Speech at Oberlin [Thread Retitled by Moderator]

<p>1- natural, yes; we humans have a tendency to generalize from anecdotal information; I’d argue that’s a tendency to guard against because we can be seduced so easily into drawing larger conclusions based on a what are usually random events </p>

<p>2- yes, regressive incidents can occur in progressive places; obverse is true, too: one can find kindness in the gulag . . . doesn’t make the gulag a nice place</p>

<p>3- I get your point: it’s important for the adminstration to respond as caretakers of the Oberlin culture; nonetheless I expect more from students than I do from the administration - especially at Oberlin, because the students there seem to “own” the school and culture more than colleges with more passive students; examples for me include the co-ops and exco; in both those examples it’s the students taking responsibility for how the eating and living co-ops function, thrive, or suffer and for teaching classes.</p>

<p>What are you finding the students’ own responses to this incident to be?</p>

<p>Wow, I just return home from a business trip and discover all hell is breaking loose in CC. </p>

<p>macmill, I think you should consider the advice given by Kei-o-lei, Monydad, SDonCC and others. You are overreacting. As someone has already posted, there isn’t a college or university IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY that is a perfect utopia. But if one were to rank the thousands of colleges and universities from the most accepting and tolerant to the least, Oberlin would be in the top two in the entire country. But that doesn’t mean there isn’t one genuine a##rabbit among 2,800 students running around. To make a leap from one incident of offensive graffiti to Oberlin having a serious problem with racists and homophobes, when you don’t even know who did it, is truly remarkable, and not in a good way.</p>

<p>My Obie student IS in one of the offended groups, and I have no concerns about this incident. I know the students are going to handle it, and the administration will support them fully.</p>

<p>Late note: Looks like a student has taken responsibility for the graffitti.</p>

<p>Unfortunately, this hateful behavior is everywhere. Swarthmore is now dealing with a gay bashing attack right on campus. I witnessed one there myself in 1978. I suffered from vicious anti-Semitic attacks in high school. But from what I know of Oberlin and its community and its long traditions of tolerance and inclusion, though, this latest incident would have to be an isolated aberration. Which, in some sense, makes it all the more painful and unexpected to those effected.</p>

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<p>I can very much relate to that. Growing up in the 60s and 70s was pure hell if you were different, and it didn’t matter that your difference was an immutable characteristic. Fortunately for our kids, time has reduced some of that stuff. It hasn’t been eliminated by any means, but there does seem to be less of it.</p>

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<p>I have reiterated time and again that that is besides the point.It’s not sufficient to just parrot Oberlin’s perceived reputation as a rebuttal to an incident that is obviously not in tandem with the same reputation you are touting.I have made this point repeatedly in previous posts.A reputation is not something that is built to be admired;rather it is built to be maintained.Therefore this incident,as I said earlier,should <em>NOT</em> be attributed to the “bad apple” syndrome because before you know it it could escalate to something that will be tantamount to a great embarrassment for Oberlin.So I’m saying that this should prompt some serious introspection on the part of the entire Oberlin community and not a chest beating fiesta and reputation touting session as has been demonstrated so thoroughly in this thread.

Really?An act of hate and wanton abuse of marginalised groups does not concern you?Really?Well,that is truly remarkable,and not in a good way.</p>

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.Rather theatrical,don’t you think?And you say I’M overreacting?(!)</p>

<p>Of course people are offended by the words, but the overreaction is that anyone would suddenly use one incident to say that Oberlin is not as progressive or inclusive as people think it is.</p>

<p>I haven’t seen it mentioned here, but I had been told that the “offender” was not an Oberlin Student.</p>

<p>^ POTO Mom: Not according to Oberlin College’s president, Marvin Krislov. He said a student came forward and confessed: <a href=“https://oncampus.oberlin.edu/source/articles/2011/04/20/antithesis-oberlin[/url]”>https://oncampus.oberlin.edu/source/articles/2011/04/20/antithesis-oberlin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>^^^ macmill: I have to totally disagree with you. I know the exact words scrawled on the side of Dascomb. My daughter saw the graffiti and told me. The words were disgusting and offensive. But that is not evidence of a systemic problem at Oberlin. Oberlin’s reputation as an extraordinarily tolerant institution cannot be besmirched by two words scrawled by a single fool on a campus of 2,800 and a community of over 8,000. </p>

<p>I also don’t appreciate your description of African Americans and LGBT people as “marginalized” by Oberlin. I don’t believe Oberlin “marginalizes” anyone. African Americans and LBGT students are not helpless, shunned victims of “hate” and “wanton abuse” as you put it, certainly not on Oberlin’s campus. At which American college do you expect to enroll that you believe you will not hear, read about, or witness a single act of ignorance like this isolated incident at Oberlin? Oberlin is probably the least likely place to experience something like this. As Professor Dave72 said it hasn’t happened but once in 38 years. </p>

<p>I don’t think you’re going to find another American college or university with a better record.</p>

<p>It doesn’t change the fact that spray-painting a combined racial and homophobic slur on the side of a dormitory is hate speech or the fact that there is much more to be gleaned from the community’s reaction than the act itself…but, according to the news story below, the student who confessed to this act “is an African American and queer.”</p>

<p>[Slanderous</a> Graffiti Enrages Students, Draws Attention of Administration](<a href=“http://www.oberlinreview.org/article/slanderous-graffiti-enrages-students-draws-attenti/]Slanderous”>Slanderous Graffiti Enrages Students, Draws Attention of Administration – The Oberlin Review)</p>

<p>One, uh, Obie girl, College senior Kyla Moore, who helped organize the silent protest, claims that the graffiti underscores, “a larger context of daily infractions going on,” and that “it becomes part of a chorus of things going on.” She contends that, “regardless of who put it up there,” the graffiti is a way “for the campus to see the physical representation of things that have been going on amorphously for my entire four years here.” I don’t know about that. That argument’s sort of like a guy who killed his parents pleading for leniency because he’s an orphan. The only thing that she seems to be able to reference in terms of actions by others is something from within the community itself apparently designed to create outrage and sympathy. Frankly, it’s far more damaging because credibility is important and now there’s this contrived act of crying “Wolf!” that’s out there.</p>

<p>If it’s true about this student, I think it does matter who put the graffiti up there on Dascomb Hall and that the bigger story should be the hoax and that betrayal – or else the community is creating an incentive for people to proliferate these acts of self-inflicted hate that then discredit and minimalize the actual transgressions that should be brought to light and addressed. But how can those truly important things happen (a) if the campus is focused on bigger, more attention-getting actions, and (b) the credibility of those who complain about legitimate transgressions is immediately assailed because of so-called “allies” who either paint graffiti or happily gloss over the fact that it’s a hoax because it’s still a useful metaphor?</p>

<p>This isn’t the first time this sort of contrived outrage has been used at Oberlin to call attention to one person’s (perhaps shared) discontent over events and feelings that are far less spectacular and far less dramatic than the hoax that’s perpetrated. Apparently this happened with an Asian student who spray-painted a threatening ethnic message on the Memorial Arch, a controversial monument dedicated to the memory of members of the Oberlin community (missionaries and family members) who died in the Boxer Rebellion. That created several weeks’ of outrage before an Asian student came forward to confess that it was a cry for attention to point out the racism that she thought was inherent in the monument in that the monument ignores the thousands upon thousands of Chinese who were raped and/or killed…while glorifying the accomplishments of a handful of white people. That’s not to say that her points were not valid. Unfortunately, she created all sorts of other debates that detracted from her intended point (example: one feminist position was dismay that she stayed anonymous for so long because that ran contrary to their agenda point in which women should be empowered to act boldly, which is also a point with some validity that was now competing for attention with the protestor’s thesis) and, as you see from that example, forced people to retreat from the important point. Worse than the lost message is the discrediting this act serves on others who follow with valid grievances. Whatever short-term positive impact may be gained, the long-term effect inevitably runs counter to the hoaxster’s intent.</p>

<p>Integrity and credibility and trust are important. Indeed, where a constructive dialogue is sought, they are essential. They are difficult badges to earn. And earning them back is even more difficult – just ask Greg Mortenson. The discussion on race should continue and never stop. There’s never cause to rest on one’s laurels as **macmill **asserts. But the big transgression here deserves considerable attention because s/he has betrayed a community trust and inflicted grave wounds on that important conversation by putting her allies, the people she was presumably trying to assist, in that unfortunate hole of trying to regain those badges.</p>

<p>Dy’er Maker, thanks for the update. It’s a shame this was done by someone who fits both groups and was either a cry for attention or some form of self-hatred. At least we now know the offender was not an “other” (aka “straight white person”). </p>

<p>In my opinion, sometimes minorities cry racism way too quickly. One problem my Obie D has noted is the same phenomenon she saw in high school: a lot of racial self-segregation, which can breed paranoia about other groups. My D socializes with everyone. She doesn’t see the point of students from racial minorities (or sexual minorities) deliberately segregating themselves, and she refuses to do it. Self-Balkanized, you begin to feed on each other’s negativity, and the collective mentality becomes “they” (the majority) dislike/hate/disrespect us, etc. There are obvious benefits from associating with other people with whom you share a similar cultural background, but taken to an extreme it can be a negative. Unfortunately, in this regard, Oberlin is like every high school, college or university. </p>

<p>Multicultural organizations are great. Language theme houses are a terrific idea. But single race theme houses in 2010? Sometimes I wonder if this country has progressed at all since I graduated in 1975.</p>

<p>Sorry for rambling. I’m just not hearing about “daily infractions” (race and/or sexual orientation-based) from my Obie kid, and we have the kind of close relationship where we talk every day about everything.g And are the “daily infractions” committed by the administration, faculty, staff, or other students? And what constitutes an “infraction at Oberlin?” A failure to say hello or extend an invitation to lunch, or does it have to reach the level of spray-painted racist graffiti, even though only a gay minority student has done such a thing in at least the last 38 years?</p>

<p>As a so-called minority, I think sometimes people get carried away by the most minor faux pas. I’m from a generation that experienced real, vitriolic, cross-burning, gun-pointing, brick throwing, racial hatred and we didn’t let that stop us. I’m curious to know more about what constitutes “daily infractions.”</p>

<p>I just heard from my kid that the college found more graffiti on a bench near one of the academic buildings. The same person? A copycat who heard about Dascomb, had too much to drink (or smoke), and thought it would be funny to keep it going?</p>

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<p>**The above comment in the Opening Post has no relationship to the reality of campus life at Oberlin. </p>

<p>Numerous posters have replied with appropriate links to help readers find other sources for a balanced review of last weekend’s incident. Thank you.</p>

<p>The misleading, incendiary original thread title (“Hate Speech at Oberlin”) has just been modified to read “One Incident of Hate Speech at Oberlin.”</p>

<p>– Moderator Paying3Tuitions **</p>

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<p>paying3tuitions, this is totally true. Just to follow up on my post #31, regarding the graffiti on the bench (the location was a bench by the new Kohl building), I have it on good authority (okay, I called campus security) that it was not related to the Dascomb issue and not done by an Oberlin student. Remember, the campus is spread out and partly “integrated” into the town of Oberlin. By my eyes, the Kohl building is one of those structures on what passes for the “edge” of recognizable campus. Methinks a townie became bored eating an ice cream cone while waiting for his mom to pick him up. </p>

<p>After two years, I have to take my D2’s opinion that Oberlin is the most prejudiced free environment she’s ever been in other than her own home. And, yes, she’s a person of color.</p>