<p>Catchy title eh?
Wel, I say many open minded entries in this site so I just thought of starting a discussion on something my dad and I have been discussing abt. </p>
<p>How did life evolve on Earth?
I understand upto the part of organic molecules and stuff being produced during the adverse conditions of early earth. This must be highly probable. I can accept that organic molecules upto amino acids and all can get formed but then how did this thing called life come abt. I mean to say u can have a DNA which is a molecule in a living being and plays a great role in life but the DNA alone doesnt have a life. What I'm driving at (and making a mess about it) is that how did this function of trying to survive and reproduce and all come about. It couldnt have just started from nothing. I dont believe that God created life nor do I believe that it just happened all of a sudden. There must've been an evolution from non living organic molecules to living things being formed. Well, if anyone hasany ideas please tell me</p>
<p>After taking a course in AP Biology, I've become religious. I believe that evolution did occur, however that there was a higher being out there that kind of ushered the events to "work."</p>
<p>i think the chances of gases in the atmosphere creating organic molecules and then in turn creating amino acids and then in turn creating even a single protein is pretty slim.</p>
<p>I'll get this off my chest immediately: their is no Christine doctrine against believing in evolution, and arguing against evolution is foolish in the face of many pieces of scientific evidence...although the entropic argument against it is intriguing.</p>
<p>I simply don't see WHY it all would have happened if there were no God. People may disagree about who or what God is, but I just don't see how there could not have been some sort of higher power. Otherwise, what is the purpose of it all? Why? There's no point without a higher power.</p>
<p>I beleive that RNA came before DNA. Cells may have started as a simple lipid bilayer enclosed by RNA. DNA probably came about due to a need for more efficent way of replicateing RNA, and storage of genetic meterial. I think that in the beginning 'organic soup' that at one point viruses and cells diverged to form 2 different functions. Vriuses became the parasite needing cells to replicate while the cells were more more independint. </p>
<p>In labs protobionts, which are theorised to be similar to pre-cells, have shown many of the qualities of a living organism. They can devide an obtan homeostatisis using an electrochemical gradiant, using transport accross a polymer membrane.</p>
<p>The first unit of reconisible life probably occured when RNA and replication protiens were engulfed by a spherical membrane and the RNA and the membrane started to replicate together. Variations started to arise as the RNA started to mutate and Natural selection started to occur.</p>
<p>This is not a debate. Scientific inquiry does not permit religious issues to interfere. Evolution is science. Creationism is not. It does not matter which is correct. Science points to evolution. This is a question about science. Leave it be.</p>
<p>thats exactly what i am saying iamthestarman,
it seems impossible that life was created in a muddy little pond "by accident" some billion years ago without divine intervention</p>
<p>Again, just because evolution occured doesn't debunk the notion of God, there is nothing in Christian teaching that says God couldn't have created the pinpoint of energy that led to the big bang. Creationists give regular Christians a bad name, because you have to realize that 7 Days doesn't necessarily mean 7, 24hr days. For example, the creation of Man from dust could be inkling into evolution, if you consider that event may have occured over millions of years. You can separate evolution from the question "is there a God"...I direct you to Aquinas' 5 proofs of God.</p>
<p>Personally, I believe you can neither confirm nor deny the existence of God, as you talking about existence beyond the realm of spacetime, an area no one can explore yet. I do believe that the universe comes/came from God, or the "first mover" that crafted the universe and set it in motion, intervening as necessary but working beyond space and time. Meh, my two cents.</p>
<p>Every system, left to its own devices, always tends to move from ORDER TO DISORDER, its energy tending to be transformed into lower levels of availability (for work), ultimately becoming totally random and unavailable for work.</p>
<p>Entropy, which is the amount of disorder in any system, is always increasing.
i want to draw particular attention to the phrases "left to its own devices" and "order to disorder". Obviously if evolutionism assumes no divine intervention occured then the earth was left to its own device. this contradicts the law because in a system left to itself goes from order to disorder so the atmospheric gases (N2, CO2,and H2O) which are very disorderly(high entropy) cannot create a molecule (like amino acid) with a significantly lower entropy.
if dont believe in divine intervention, then it is IMPOSSIBLE to to create a simple amino acid much less a complex protein molecule.</p>