<p>I just realized that I may not be putting my summer science program in the right place. I attended the University of Pennsylvania Summer Science Academy (also, I wrote UPenn Summer Science Academy since I did not have enough room for the whole thing - is this fine?) in summer of 2005 and it wasn't for college credit, just for learning physics. Am I putting this in the right spot, or should it be in another area such as under extracurricular activities?</p>
<p>My son had the same question about Governor's School and Summer Program at Brown.</p>
<p>If you don't get credit for a course, I don't think it belongs under any other school category. It would be an EC. I don't see how it could be otherwise because any course work has to be supported with official transcripts and something without credit wouldn't have one, would it?</p>
<p>My daughter did two summer programs at Brown. The first summer was a short course and wasn't for credit; she listed it as an EC. The second summer was for college credit, and was shown as a college attended.</p>
<p>When she applied to colleges, however, she did submit the written evaluation from the first summer program as supplemental information.</p>
<p>Well, I'm not sure if I agree, DianeR. There are two different areas on the Common App. The 2nd one is for classes that award college credits so I would put summer classes for credit there. These are considered college classes, not HS programs.</p>
<p>But what goes under the 1st category then if you can't list the HS summer programs that don't award college credit? It specifically says "List all other secondary schools, including summer schools as well as summer and other programs you have attended, beginning with ninth grade." I think this section is for HS enrichment type programs instead of those that award college credit.</p>
<p>Any other opinions? Anyone else in the Columbia University Honors Science Program? Could that be listed? I'm getting so confused as my son keeps changing things.</p>
<p>I think that I am going to put the my program as the first thing in additional information, especially since I did it with a concentration in physics and that is my major, so that'll catch their eye, and also so they know that I'm not using that space just to put a bunch of random stuff down. This is how I'm listing it:</p>
<ul>
<li>Penn Summer Science Academy (PSSA), a non-credit summer program at the University of Pennsylvania, with a concentration in physics (06/2005 – 07/2005) </li>
</ul>
<p>I'm not heading it as University of Pennsylvania first since I think that may turn off colleges, who may think that I'm applying to University of Pennsylvania as a first choice (i'm not even applying there). Does that sound good?</p>
<p>I don't disagree, jerzgrlmom. I never said that college-level courses should go in the secondary school category. At least I didn't mean to ... I can see how my inartful second sentence may be construed that way. But, as I explained, we put college-credit courses in the college-course area.</p>
<p>I was just making the point that courses that don't yield credit, HS or college, should not be listed in the categories that deal with credit courses. Or was trying to, anyway LOL</p>
<p>I hear you and agree. What do you think SHOULD go in the first section then, that asks for summer pgms? My son has changed his stuff so many times that I can't keep up - probably better I don't try. But this one time he did ask my opinion and I'm so not used to being asked for help, I'm confused... this process was much easier with my daughter.</p>
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<p>It is unfortunate that the common application doesn't explain itself very well. A college isn't a secondary school, which is what they ask for, even though it can have noncredit programs for secondary school students.</p>
<p>What else might go in the category? Well, any other program or classes at other secondary schools. They do exist. At least that is how I would read it. Perhaps the college programs developed after this form was dreamt up?</p>
<p>Or perhaps they just are missing the comma that would clear up everything ... reminds me of a case that was just decided where bad comma placement cost a company a couple million. </p>
<p>Guess what, though? Given the way one can argue it either way (insert a comma or postulate that they are defining colleges with noncredit programs for high school students as secondary schools for the purpose of the question), I imagine colleges see these programs BOTH ways, listed in the secondary school category AND as additional information. And I'm willing to bet it does not make the LEAST bit of difference! </p>
<p>My daughter put her noncredit program down as additional information, for what it's worth :) I think what you have is fine, waffle.</p>
<p>That's a good e.c. to list.</p>
<p>So, would Governor's Schools count? HS juniors are selected and receive no credit for the classes. Strictly enrichment. But just like the Columbia University Science Honors Program, the NJ Gov Schools are held on college campuses - but I wouldn't call them college courses. But I don't consider Columbia SHP a college program either... Maybe Common App is looking for those leadership conference programs for HS students? Too confusing and frustrating. My son hates to give up EC slots for these programs - and some of his schools won't accept resumes/activity lists.</p>