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And it explains a little more about the owner’s motivation. Are they interested in keeping CC discussions going or merely in grabbing past info and data? Road Trip Nation shows probably generate a lot more advertising money than this site does. Do they care about the date that something was posted or are they looking for member statuses and user names? Is the top banner a list of what they use for their data mining?

How long will they keep CC before they sell it to the next entity who wants access to the wealth of information posted on this site?

@Roger_Dooley Thanks for the post. It must be disappointing for you to see your “baby” be run the way it is. As frustrating as it is, glad to be part of the volunteer team to keep this going. It’s a good site and provides valuable free advice to many students who wouldn’t have access to information important to navigating the increasingly complex college admission process (whether it being a first gen, urm, or student who cannot afford a private counselor). This clears up a lot and hopefully this new company takes a look, listens, and at least considers the feedback from its dedicated users. They should consider a statement like you just put out. Happy 4th.

Road Trip Nation acquires College Confidential - Article from May 2018.
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2018/05/prweb15454091.htm

And hence the Princeton Review never ending video.

Maybe letting Princeton review see this forum of disgust would set things in motion. Don’t think they would want to be associated with something so negative.

Given Princeton Review’s past experience in the college discussion world, this should be an interesting ride…

Anyone know which members work for Princeton Review?

Headed over to Reddit. Glad to see so many re-creating their screen handles over there.

So now we’re shills for P Review?

Guess what’s back? The spam popups.

To be fair I only used Princeton review books for the sat and AP exams lol

@lookingforward… I know I mentioned this twice but if you use a browser like “Brave” no pop-ups or ads. It’s really great and secure BTW. You can adjust things in the settings also
https://brave.com/features/

I check in to see if anything changes but Dooley’s post pretty well has explained the current situation . Kudos to him for creating a great site. It’s been a fab run and the usefulness to so many over the years is a real tribute. Thanks!

Reddit isn’t the same or “as good” a platform for our particular use but we’ll figure it out. It’s easier to navigate than CC at the moment.

I have noticed that while some young posters complain about “those know it all” parents from CC that the majority appreciate solid advice and upvote it. Much from parents.

High schoolers answering questions that they haven’t got solid knowledge about is useless to them. They aren’t stupid. They want good advice. Just like here.
You can tag yourself as a parent on reddit.

Just saying your good advice and especially expertise is needed more than just on this site if you want to help kids.

Has anyone else noticed the large number of relatively new posters on cc?

Yep. Lots.

I was probably spending too much time on CC. The new format has solved that problem…can’t find anything, & even if I could the pale font & space-wasting formatting make me sea-sick.

Roger Dooley’s comments were helpful, and they fit with CCadmin Soren’s comment about relying on “functionality from a vendor, so not all issues are addressable and items that may “seem” easy to fix are not necessarily quite that easy.” It sounds like there are 2 issues:

  1. Why the update happened in the first place and what this reflects about the current forum management/ownership, including how the forum is valued and the future of the website.
  2. What can be done to improve the current situation.

Regarding the first issue, there are lots of websites with articles about college admission, many of which are have articles that are far superior to the basic articles on CC. The articles aren’t what makes CC unique and valuable – it’s the forum. CC had the most popular college admission type forum that I am aware of, with hundreds of quality posts each day, and many interesting discussions, full of knowledgeable posters contributing content. No other college admission forum I am aware of came could approach CC in this aspect, including Reddit. CC was in a class by itself. These quality threads were indexed and well ranked in Google, which led to new posters frequently joining and making quality contributions to the forums, further increasing in the forum’s size and dominance in market share. That’s how I originally found the website, as I expect did most quality contributors on the site. I found the forum threads, not the articles.

It sounds like the RoadTrip Nation/Strata Education Network management may have different values. Upon RoadTrip’s acquisition, there appeared to be more a focus on the articles by “experts”, perhaps in an effort to better compliment and link to RoadTrip Nation’s more career oriented content. This includes the new careers section, hiring editors, and making editor content prominently linked including more recently showing articles on the first screen length of the forum home page, rather than the forum index.

There have also been a history of technical issues since the acquisition from RoadTrip Nation. For more than a year, the seemingly highly valued articles and much of the non-forum content did not display with Firefox – the 2nd most popular desktop browser. I’d expect any quality, professional website designer to test with Firefox before deployment, and if somehow a failure occurs with Firefox to quickly address and resolve the coding issue. The fact that the Firefox failure occurred and remained in the content for more than a year makes me believe that there were serious problems in handling the technical and design aspects of the website. Perhaps the tech stuff was handled by a not stellar vendor, and updates were not made in a timely manner due to some combination of poor communication with forum users (many users mentioned the FireFox issue, including the article poster) and avoiding high costs.

This does not bode well for the 2nd issue – what can be done to improve the current situation. Like the earlier issue with FireFox not being supported, the new forum design updates have some critical design problems that should not have occurred with a quality vendor – issues that make the forums difficult to use and are driving some quality posters away, ultimately making the CC website less valuable. These problems have been described many times throughout the thread, yet many of the critical issues have not been addressed, nor have there been any message about correcting the most critical existing design issues in the future.

I’ve owned multiple websites with popular forums in the past. Forum expenses beyond hosting costs can be quite low, and problem/design corrections can be near immediate. If the current vendor solution isn’t working well, or the custom integration with the website content is too expensive, then I’d suggest looking for a new solution. I expect most users would be happy to use a primarily default coding forum, without extensive customizations beyond the subforum divisions, so long as it had a similar format to the earlier structure.

A summary of post counts in the College Admissions and Search Subforums is below. Looking at previous years, the past 7 days appears to be have had the fewest posts for this week (6/27 to 7/3) of any year during the post 2005- history that is available in the search function. I’m not sure what the goals of this update are, but I’d be very surprised if it is meeting those goals.

Post Count in College Search And Selections Subforums
Week Before Update – 465 Posts Per Day
Past Week – 340 Posts Per Day,

So has anyone been getting emails to threads but No links are in the email. This has happened for about 2 hours now. So I get an emailed thread but no hyperlink or even description in the email.
Things seem to be getting better ?.

@Data10 I’d like to think many posters here can be considered experts in the forums they specialize in. Maybe this new company should consider that. Some of my posts were directly linked and referenced by one of the most well known UC private admission counselor on her widely read and distributed blog posts.

@Data10 - thanks- would love to see more comparison of traffic in threads then and now. Got any more?

Question— Just how much do you think RoadTripNation paid for this boondoggle?

Some comparisons are below:

College Admissions and Search Subforums
Before Forum Update* – 167 threads updated per day
Past ~Week* – 117 threads updated per day

Colleges Majors Subforums
Before Forum Update* – 30 posts per day
Past ~Week* – 19 posts per day

What Are My Chances?
Before Forum Update* – 13 threads updated per day
Past ~Week* – 4 threads updated per day

Community and Forum Issues
Before Forum Update* – 3 posts per day
Past ~Week* – 75 posts per day

*Before Forum Update is for the 6 day period from 6/19 - 6/24. Past ~Week is for the 6 day period from 6/28 to 7/3. Results are based on outputs of advanced search feature using the date within 3 days mode – number of posts or threads listed / 6. This method only counts a thread once, if updated each day. I misunderstood this advanced search feature when making my earlier post, such that the specific numbers were incorrect, but magnitude of change was similar.