Out of state students who plan to become Californian residents

Colleges and Universities A-Z University of California - Berkeley
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<p>I was wondering what the percentage of out-of-state-students at Cal become California state residents by their sophomore or junior years in order to pay in-state tuition? </p>

<p>Are any of you future students planning to do that? </p>

<p>I just don't see why a top student would choose Cal over a top-notch private school and pay the out-of-state tuition (comparable to those private schools) if they have to pay an additional year's tuitio due to not being able to get required classes to graduate in four years time. </p>

<p>I am wondering why someone would choose to pay more money, unless, of course, they plan to become a state resident and switch to paying the in-state tuition for the last four years.</p>

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<p>[Establishing</a> California Residence for Tuition Purposes, Office of the Registrar](<a href=“http://www.registrar.ucsb.edu/residenc.htm]Establishing”>404 - Page Not Found)</p>

<p>this should give you an idea how to do it…</p>

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It’s pretty infrequent at Cal not to get into required classes. Berkeley is also very generous with AP credits by allowing you to skip entry level courses, unlike privates. A top student would likely have AP credits.</p>

<p>Some majors, like those in the college of engineering, require you to graduate in four years.</p>

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<p>With all due respect, you have already graduated. The cutbacks and recent changes have made things a lot more complicated for current students.</p>

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<p>^ Okay…and from what I’ve read on these boards and talked with current students, the cuts haven’t impacted undergrads.</p>

<p>Your talks of cuts don’t change anything I’ve stated…if you have tons of AP credits, you can probably graduate in 3.5 years. CoE requires you to graduate in 4 years. The cuts have not caused Berkeley to change these policies.</p>

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<p>I had no idea you could become a California resident to pay less tuition…does this actually work? That link is for UCSB. When would they update your financial stuff?</p>

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<p>[University</a> of California - Admissions](<a href=“http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/admissions/undergrad_adm/ca_residency.html]University”>http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/admissions/undergrad_adm/ca_residency.html)</p>

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<p>“The process of obtaining California residency for tuition purposes is extremely difficult for undergraduates with nonresident parents (this includes transfer students from community colleges and other post-secondary institutions within California). Virtually all nonresident undergraduates with nonresident parents remain nonresidents for the duration of their undergraduate career at the University.”</p>

<p>per, [Residency</a> for Tuition Purposes - Office Of The Registrar](<a href=“http://registrar.berkeley.edu/current_students/residency.html]Residency”>http://registrar.berkeley.edu/current_students/residency.html)</p>

<p>Good luck…</p>

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<p>Financial independence would include proof that your parents have not claimed you on tax filings for last few years, that you have a source of income to explain how you paid for your own apartment or house for the last few years, or perhaps a court order making you emancipated. </p>

<p>They demand various evidence for people claiming to have become residents and if any of it contradicts the claim that you have been absolutely financially independent of your parents for a while, then you are back to being an OOS.</p>

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<p>wow so it’s almost impossible, hmm what if your parents put a ton of money in a Californian bank account that you opened up and technically that’s your money not your parents and you also have a job, and you used that money to pay for apartment, and do all your tax returns under a Cali address, get a Cali driver’s license, and your parents take you off their tax returns. Is that enough? lol</p>

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<p>A bank account filled with money your parents gave you doesn’t demonstrate financial independence, whether or not it’s in your name.</p>

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<p>but they won’t know my parents gave it to me, I could say I earned it working and show them documents that show I earned the money in Idaho and transferred it here?</p>

<p>PS: hopefully no Berkeley official is reading these threads…lol</p>

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<p>There is a law suit in California right now that addresses this issue. You can’t have two types of California State Residencies. The University system will probably lose on this one. Especially if they end up granting amnesty to all illegal aliens in the USA… imagine the illegal immigrant being considered an ‘in-state’ resident over an American.</p>

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<p>Even if you have enough money and a job to support yourself, and your parents take you off their tax returns, it can still be really difficult.</p>

<p>Get married, I think that works. Or maybe that’s just for international students.</p>

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<p>hmm really? any Cali female resident want to tie the knot?.. lol jk XD</p>

<p>That’s almost as bad as marrying someone get be a part of their health insurance plan, which I think actually happened.</p>

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<p>First off, if they are granted amnesty they are no longer illegal immigrants.</p>

<p>Second, this already happens.</p>

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<p>what if one of my parents moves to CA for one year? until i get residency…</p>

<p>then could they move back?</p>

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<p>They could. But houses in California are rather expensive by national standards; I’m not convinced that would actually save you money over just paying OOS tuition.</p>

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<p>dae0582 - if the income doesn’t move with the parent, probably still a problem. If the parent is filing California income tax, then it would work to make you a resident for tuition purposes.</p>

<p>However, if they move back, you are gambling that they don’t ask you for proof later - which they could - as the parent would no longer be a resident. </p>

<p>Also, California state income taxes could easily be higher than the tuition you save by having the parent come here, particularly if coming from a state with no income tax or another country. Once a resident, your income is taxed by the state and country where you reside.</p>

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<p>oh yea you have a good point rider730…</p>

<p>however I do know a Cal graduate who did this for a year and has never had any problems since…</p>

<p>do u think the CA law has changed alot since about 5 years ago? (i know the economy has for sure)</p>