Out of State Tuition...

Paying for College
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<p>Is it true that if you attend an state university and you are an out of state student, you only have to pay out of state fees for one year, because the next year you can establish a residence there? How does this work..?</p>

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<p>I do not know any states that make residency easy for undergrads. In order to get state residency, your parents often have to move there and in many states file tax forms there. It is easier if you are a grad student or over 24 as you are no longer dependent on your parents' address. Still, you have to have a primary reason for being in the state other than being a student, difficult to establish when you are a full time student. My D is going through this process for when she goes to medical school. THough she has gone to college in that state for 3, years --it will be 4 before she is done, that alone will not be a basis for her to get state residency for tuition purposes.</p>

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<p>TO get out of state tuition-
you could have your parents move there-
IF you are independent ( 24- have a dependent of your own or married)
you can move to that state- work for a year and then apply to schools.
Some states are a tad more flexible than that- so best to check with school.
Some states also have reciprocal agreements with connecting states so that students only pay 150% of instate tuition- you might want to look into that as well.</p>

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<p>our family lives in PA and my cousin who is from PA went to UCLA, we have family over in California, so she simply provided her aunts address on app, so she was charged as a California resident.</p>

<p>In reality, how can they prove how long you been in California before applying..</p>

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<p>NO this is not true.</p>

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<p>Would marrying a resident get you in-state residency?</p>

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<p>Would marrying a resident get you in-state residency?</p>

<p>Yes, i would assume if she or he is from the state of your selected college. But if you are going to marry someone simply to be considered in state resident, chances are you wont be married very long</p>

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<p>If you are married you would be considered an independent student and YOUR address would be considered your primary residence for tuition purposes. Having said that...you would have to check specific state schools to see their policies on how long you must reside in the state and under what circumstances for instate tuition. BUT being married is one of the ways you can be independent re: finaid...and that might be a consideration too.</p>

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<p>Yes, marrying a resident would get you in-state residency in most states. But you do have to check each state's rules. Usually state schools ask a few directed questions on the app that are good indicators of whether or not you are a state resident. Sometimes you can game the system as you always can especially if you are willing to lie. Not a good idea, as it is just not the way to live one's life and there is, of course, the risk and penalites if you get caught. I know that my brother told me of his friend's D who did get in state treatment in CA because they scammed the system, and were caught within the first term. They do apparently check up on this. Unless you apply with a home address in-state, and have divorced parents with one living in the state, it is going to look awfully odd that you are going to school in another state unless it is a boarding school. I am not familiar with the CA state universities' app forms, so I don't know what questions they specifically ask. I do know families who have bought an address in another state to get the in state designation, but I don't know if they got away with it. I know for Michigan, NY and some other states, your parents have to have paid a year's taxes in that state to qualify in addition to having a residence there. When you look at all of the personal questions asked in an app, it is easy to flag a scam unless you outright lie.</p>

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<p>"In reality, how can they prove how long you been in California before applying.."</p>

<p>High school transcripts........</p>

<p>I would NEVER recommend this EVER!</p>

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<p>I do not know how California checks on state residency. In some states, you do have to have filed a return for the year before, which is easy to check. Also, if things look fishy, there are verifications and investigations that come about.</p>

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<p>well. here is my situation. cal polytech thought I was an instate student. then it turns out I am not. (I actually called and told them I am not...... kinda stupid.). anyways. they emailed me and told me I only have to pay out-state tuition for one year. and all I have to do is get a drivers license and a bank account. Is it true???????????????</p>

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<p>In reality...high school transcripts...parents' tax returns for the previous year (some schools require TWO years), history of mail received or credit cards. There are TONS of ways to show that you are NOT a state resident. And it is fraud to say you ARE when you are not.</p>

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<p>I chair residency appeals at a college in Georgia. In our state, you must have lived in the state for the preceding 12 mnths prior to requesting in-state residency WITHOUT having been a student at a college or HS in the state. I usually ask for a copy of a utility bill with an in-state address that shows that the student or their parent had established a domicile in the state > 12 months prior. And yes, marrying an in-state resident would qualify. I believe Georgia's requirements to be fairly typical of many other states.</p>

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<p>Out-of-staters with plans of cheap UC education, heed my words:</p>

<p>Do not mess with the UC's residency requirements, its kung fu is strong. Trust me.</p>

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<p>UCs ask:
Where you/parents have file tax returns for the past 3 years?
Where are you/parents registered to vote, when did you last vote?
Where do you/parentd have a driver's license, when did you last renew it?
How long have you been CA residents?
Have any of you been out of state for more that 6 weeks in the past 12 months- i.e., are you only here for the school year and you go "home" on breaks?</p>

<p>It is pretty comprehensive. My D has a friend whose dad is a CA resident, but mom lives in anaohter state, the girl pays OOS fees because she graduated from high school while living with mom- that is her state of residence.</p>

<p>I would not recommend cheating/lying, though you could have an unusual family situation which might not meet every condition yet still qualify. In that case, simply call and talk to them to ask about your situation.</p>

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<p>She did not apply to UC's right out of H.S. Im not sure how long the time period was. I am pretty sure, she went out there June of 2002, then started at UCLA Fall 2003, so that's a year right there.</p>

<p>I dont know the ins and outs, i have heard it takes 1yr to establish residency. she was out there for about 14 months before actually attending the school, so she was probably out in Cal. for about 8-10 months when applying? She did have a job, but like i said, she infact did provide relatives address.... and it did work......</p>

<p>The difference between UCs for instate and out of state resident is $6500 for instate to about 24,000 out of state, i know she plans to stay in California after graduation and eventually buy real estate out there, so that might of been the reason they granted her California residency...</p>

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<p>Jim:</p>

<p>That is the danger in going by heresey, no one truly knows what other people had to put on their forms and it can sound like your classmate is "cheating" or working the system, when in fact, they are perfectly legal. One of my D's UC friends is not a citizen, but his parents moved their in 11th grade and have green cards, he pays instate fees, another friend has parents living ina different state and she pays in state fees as she grew up in Ca and her family did not move until after she began the UC school.</p>

<p>There are many complications and the 1 year spent living in CA may have been sufficient, if she has a CA DL & voted and registered a car there and paid income taxes in CA.</p>

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<p>Please don't take offense at this comment...but if she was certain that she HAD instate residency, WHY did she feel compelled to use a relative's address? She should have had her own CA address if she was really residing in CA for the year. </p>

<p>These threads about out of state tuition do not sit well with me. They imply that there are ways to "game the system" to get in state tuition. Again I say...it is fraud to say one is an instate resident when one is really not. There are criteria for the establishment of this. Sure, there are folks who are dishonest and probably do not get caught...but that does not make this the correct thing to be doing.</p>

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<p>Thumper,</p>

<p>She had a job out there but it was one that didn't pay well and because real estate is so high out there, she did not have enough money to buy a house on her own, thus lived with her aunt and used her aunt's address for the application.... the relative's address then becomes her address??</p>

<p>I do not know the ins and outs about what qualifies residency and so forth. Are you saying if she was living out in California for 1 year, she could of had her own address even though she was still living with her relatives.</p>

<p>See i connect your own address with your own place.</p>

<p>PS -i think you need to be out living in Cal for 1yr before even applying to a school, im pretty sure she applyed to UC about 10 months after being there but she was infact in Cal over a year (14 months) when she actually started to attend..</p>