Out Of State Vs. In-state

<p>how much harder is it to get into UNC if you are not a resident of North Carolina? I heard 83% of the incoming frosh are from NC, is that a reliable stat? Also, if I get a 4.0 GPA/2050 SATs, will I have a better chance than an NC resident with a 3.2/1370 SATs? I ask this b/c I saw that some of the current UNC students had low SAT scores.</p>

<p>You need within a 1900+ on the SATs from OOS. It's insane.</p>

<p>jkess: The percentage is usually 82% in-state, but I think this year's incoming class was 81.5%. While there will always be a broader range of SATs among the in-state students, than OOS, it still gets very competitive in-state. I also think that UNC doesn't seem to depend <em>solely</em> on numbers (ie., SAT scores; GPA). Also, I'm not sure, but I doubt they compare OOS applications with in-state; rather, you're basically completing with the ~11,000 or so out-of-state applicants. Even if they did just look at the numbers and compare your scores with in-state applicants, you'd be competing with all the top in-state students who would have comparable scores/gpa, etc., as any out-of-state applicant. And they have the added advantage of being in-state residents. So you just need to have a stellar application all around, including well-written essays. (Just my 2 cents--for what it's worth.)</p>

<p>My D is OOS and did not have fantastic SAT's... I think it was something like 1800. I really believe admissions looks at the whole person... In her case, I think the essays were very important, and her leadership positions and community service.</p>

<p>I have similar stats (4.23GPA/2080 SAT/32 ACT) and I got in OOS...but I know that my extracurriculars, essays, and recommendations helped me quite a bit.</p>

<p>thank you guys for all the feedback</p>

<p>you only need 1900 to get in from OOS? Are you sure because I got a 30 on the ACT, which is like 1980-2050 on the SAT depending on who you ask to convert it, and people say that I'm a reach. My GPA is about 3.87 or so UW in the toughest classes, but still. 1900 seems really low given how people boast about how hard it is.</p>

<p>i think what loslobos meant was that you need at least a 1900 to even have a shot from OOS. of course, there are always people who have perhaps outstanding ECs, etc, which make up for low test scores, but in general if you're from OOS, you need pretty good scores</p>

<p>by law of the general assembly since UNC is publicly funded, 82% of students must be from in-state. an admissions officer told me that they do not compare application to application but rather use a holistic approach. also OOS are not compared to in-state. from what i've seen to be accepted as an OOS student you really need a hook.</p>

<p>i'm guessing my NIH/HHMI internship might be enough to push me in OOS with my 1900 SAT, 30 ACT, and 3.93 UW GPA</p>

<p>even though unc is by no means my dream school, it is probably going to be one of the only true "reaches" i apply to</p>

<p>how hard is it for international ? same as oos or harder ?</p>

<p>well even though the acceptance rate for international applicants is about 10% (50/500) as opposed to about 20% for OOS, there are waaay less international applicants. 11,000 students from OOS apply to UNC every year, but only 500 apply from abroad, so maybe the 10% rate is a bit misleading? but theres also the possibility that those who apply from outside the country are all very qualified. but in the end, there are still only 50 spaces set aside for international students each year =/</p>

<p>the unc website said that the average SAT score for admitted international students is about 1300 on the old scale, and a score of at least 600 on the TOEFL is considered competitive.</p>

<p>how would a 3.65UW gpa in the hardest classes w/ a 2200SAT look for an OOS student like moi?</p>

<p>I think to have a decent shot from OOS you need around a 2050. But then, of course, there are always those who get in with lower scores.</p>

<p>I would say mid 19s</p>

<p>I think they do put heavy emphasis on ECs and Essays to keep those like myself without the great SAT scores in competition. I am OOS and I scored an 1800 in four tries at the test but my essays about living as a military kid and a medicine conference I attended as well as all my ECs and leadership roles put me over. If they went for stronger SATs I don't think that I would be attending this school in August.</p>

<p>Totally agree with Stan.... I think a lot of emphasis is put on EC's, especially leadership roles and community service, and the essays.</p>