Outrage, remorse after Rutgers student's death

<p>if it was you being sentenced 5-10 years to “set an example” you would be singing a different tune.</p>

<p>this is all a tragedy i’m sure</p>

<p>but i agree with the guy that said they should get the same punishment as they should’ve gotten if they dude hadn’t jumped off the bridge</p>

<p>face it, buddies, it’s not in our (human) nature to be completely tolerant. and yeah, some people have certain sadistic attitudes but i believe the event in question was an accident? like did they know he was gay?</p>

<p>^ Ravi knew that Clementi was gay. They had a post of Ravi’s (I believe on his Twitter) where he stated something about finding out that his roommate was gay earlier in the month when school started.</p>

<p>edit: This is the paragraph from ABC News that states that Ravi was aware of Clementi’s sexuality:</p>

<p>Ravi tweeted on Aug. 22, “Found out my roommate is gay,” according to Forbes.com, and then posted a link to a gay men’s website where Ravi said Clementi had placed posts.</p>

<p>@ “Lurker”. That would never happen to me. I’m not an idiot. Like I said before, they will get what they deserve. The 5-10 years they are being tried for-are NOT for murder. The years are for invasion of privacy and committing a hate crime. Now my question is, did they or did they not invade Clementi’s privacy and harass him for being gay? I believe they did. They violated the laws is all I’m saying. So, they get what they deserve.</p>

<p>Mushaboom, you did the right thing, and kudos to your Mom for sticking it out in the housing office. Please tell her so from me! And shame on Housing for the nasty attitude to you & I assume the other students who have these kinds of roommate problems.</p>

<p>Maybe now after Tyler has died, they will pay a little better attention to roommate issues.</p>

<p>Your situation involved your personal safety; it was not about anyone’s tolerance of a roomie having a “friend” over— if I was your Mom I would have brought a cop with me, to explain the importance of the topic to the secretaries. Yes, I can be embarrassing at times! But sometimes you have to whack these people upside their dumb heads. I would have sat there all day if I had to, and been back the next day and the next, to help my kid get her room changed.</p>

<p>Your story really makes me wonder if Tyler received similar treatment at the hands of this housing office, and that is behind his suicide? I had been wondering what had transpired betwen when he went to the RA (the right step to take) and his assertive postings on the gay website, and the point at which he decided all was hopeless and he borrowed the car to go to the bridge. Could it have been the secretaries in Housing? </p>

<p>One of the schools to which my dau is applying has an interesting guest policy for dorms—no one is allowed to stay overnight, except same sex friends/relations, and the roomie has to sign a paper saying they are OK with the guest, and the guest can only stay for two nights together. IDs are left at the desk & it is manned 24 hr.</p>

<p>When we first learned of this policy (on the tour) I thought, “a little 50s isn’t it?” but upon reflection, as a parent, I like it. It protects the student from the roommate-as-bully situation, the nights spent on the sofa in the lounge (which I endured) or having to listen to “intimacy” in the bed across the room. It’s the room of both of them, and both of them have a right to peace and quiet (and safety) in it. God knows you pay enough for it.</p>

<p>As to Ravi & Wei — at the least, they should be expelled, and charged as described for their violations–not to mention, NJ has hate crime statutes. They violated Rutgers’ harassment policy big time, and repeatedly. I assume Rutgers made this policy known to all freshmen at their orientation. Ravi is a heedless jerk and for an honors student, Wei is pretty brainless (why did she let him touch her computer to broadcast his roommate, once she realized what he was doing?).</p>

<p>^ My mom does really look out for me and I appreciate all that she does. My dad as well! But apparently they didn’t take him serious enough the first time he came to housing (I think it might be because he has an accent since English isn’t his first language, but who knows).</p>

<p>My mom was very serious too. My mom told me how she was willing to live with me in my dorm if housing didn’t give me a new room just to show my roommate how uncomfortable it is having 3 people living in such a small place for more than 3 days. Knowing my mom, she *would * do it o.O</p>

<p>The thing I hate about Rutgers is that they don’t do SIGN INs with guests like they do at other schools. No ID. No 24 hours desk duties. I could just bring a guest and they wouldn’t know how long they’ve been there (as evident with my situation).</p>

<p>It is easy for an outsider to enter the buildings as well, especially the buildings with more floors and more students, such as Clothier and the three river dorms on College Avenue. You could get into the building if you want. Just wait by the door for some kid to swipe in, say thank you and enter behind him/her, and walk right up the stairs (or take the elevator) and find yourself wandering the floors.</p>