D24 seems to open up more when it’s just her and I in the car (compared to D26, who likes to open up when D24 isn’t home at all). Anyway, today on the way to & from this place near us called “Salad & Go” (which has amazingly good & inexpensive salads…very high quality for ~$7 each), D24 opened up a lot about a couple of other girls in her grade. She’s commented about these 2 students before. Super high achievers, lots of humble bragging comments lamenting how they “only” got 1490 or so on the SAT, commentary from 1 girl about stuff like “I HAVE to go to an Ivy. I mean, if I don’t, I’ll just DIE” and other fun stuff like that.
We’ve already had the money talk months ago w/both of our kids, at the advice of our school counselor. But lots of D24’s classmates’ parents just haven’t done that yet. Lots of them end up telling their kid the equivalent of “Just get in and we’ll figure out how to pay for it.”
D24 was complaining about how annoying & over the top intense these 2 girls are, how every time they ask her something about applying to college, what they’re really doing is using it as an excuse to brag to others about themselves.
Anyway, D24 said that in 1 particularly epic conversation at the end of this past school year, 1 of the girls was going on and on about Ivy League stuff. D24 & the other friends were listening, saving positive & affirming stuff (“Oh, that’s cool,” or “I heard it’s really hard to get in there, but good luck!”). D24 made a comment about making sure that you’ve run the NPC at some point so if you DO get in, then you’ll know if it’s affordable for your family or not.
And then the other student sort of went off the deep end about D24’s comment, even threw in a typical snarky teenage girl passive-aggressive comment about “well, SOME people are just a little SENSITIVE about how they can’t afford things” (the student’s parents bought her a brand new electric vehicle for her when she turned 16 and the kid is generally socioeconomically clueless, especially around other students in the grade whose families are not well off financially…this sort of class-conscious stuff from that student bothers D24 intensely).
Anyway, these 2 particular girls are very ‘prestige-aware’ when it comes to applying to college. And like a lot of HS students who are generally clueless about this whole process, they assume that if they haven’t heard of the school, then that must mean that the college is a poop school and not worth even looking at.
So I reintroduced my D24 to the concept of the Elevator Speech. I’m bringing it up here since not only my kid, but all of our kids, AND us parents are going to end up doing a lot of Elevator Speeches over this next year.
I gave D24 an example from all of the times I got poop from other HS students and parents for where I wanted to/was going to college (UCSB). I’ve lost count over the years the # of times people have pooh-pooh’d my alma mater for being a “party school.” They usually all shut up when I told them that I won a regents scholarship, was an honors student, could check out books from the library for the entire quarter, and that renowned physicist Stephen Hawking worked at the Institute for Theoretical Physics at UCSB for awhile.
D24 & I talked about how once school starts, everybody’s going to be talking about “where are you applying” and then “where do you want to go?” and then “where did you get in?” and later on “Oh…why are you going…THERE?!”
So in the car, we sort of brainstormed about some possible Elevator Speeches for a few of the schools she’s going to be applying to. You can see a trend here…involves a quick fun fact about the school or cool reason why The Child likes that school:
- U of A - “It’s away from home, but close enough to visit home if you want to. Plus, their biology department is doing some really cool research in ___ and I’m really interested in that. And my aunt lives in Tucson, so she’s going to come take me and my roommate out to brunch regularly if I go there.”
- NMSU - “It’s only a 5 1/2 hr drive from home or about an hour plane ride from the El Paso airport. Smaller school than U of A and there’s a good chance I can get into the honors college. Plus, the food in NM is great and they have a pre-health LLC dorm. U of A doesn’t have that. Plus, it’s several thousand $$ cheaper than U of A.”
- Southwestern Univ - “It’s walking distance to downtown Georgetown, which was voted the best small town in Texas. And last year, 100% of their students who applied to med school got accepted to med school. Since I want to be a PA, I thought that was pretty great.”
- Austin College - “Everybody there was really friendly. They have a really great pre-health advising program where pre-health students get to do multi-week internships in healthcare in the local community. And this year, they just started a PA grad school, so if you start at Austin College as a freshman and you have a 3.5 cumulative GPA, you get a guaranteed interview for their PA grad school. I thought that was pretty cool since I want to be a PA after college.”
I told D24, “I guarantee you…spit out 1 or 2 quick facts about whatever the college is, and whoever you’re talking to will back off and be, like, ‘Oh…wow…that’s interesting. I didn’t know that.’” AND the other person will probably end up feeling like a bit of an idiot for putting their foot in their mouth because they’d just blurted out, “Oh nobody’s ever heard of THAT school, they must be willing to take ANYBODY!”
BUT you’ve put them in their place in a classy, assertive, and polite way. And a fair amount of the time, the other person just doesn’t know any better or is being insecure about their own choices/options.
What ALSO came out of that conversation to and from “Salad & Go” was D24 saying that she’s pretty interested in the 2 schools in Texas. She also commented that her BFFs also really want to go out of state for college. I suspect that her going on the school trip to France has given D24 a lot of self confidence because she’s stopped talking about how she wants to go to U of A entirely because she’s afraid that she won’t be able to make any friends.
Kiddo is taking orders at Mickey D’s as I type this. She’s even driving herself to and from work today. I wouldn’t be lyin’ if I said that I said a prayer asking for a bubble of protection around the car today.