Teach your student what’s right. And then mind your own business.
I heard doesn’t mean it’s happening and what other families do is for them to worry about, not you.
Regardless of the reason, ED has breakage meaning rarely do schools have a 100% enrollment rate.
Personally, I would be reluctant to do anything based on a mere rumor.
By the way, keep in mind whatever plan this kid may think they have, it might not work out that way in practice even if they are admitted both places. Like, they could be reminded at that point of their commitment. It might be explained to them that the EA school could be notified they are violating their ED commitment, and that college could well withdraw their offer if they so choose.
Finally, I would keep in mind that most rumors of high schools being blackballed also appear to be just rumors. Obviously, if colleges got the sense that a high school’s counselors were willing going along with this sort of strategy on a regular basis, OK, then maybe they would have to stop admitting kids from that high school ED.
But if this is a one-off thing where the ED college thought the counselors were doing their best, and normally kids from that school fulfilled their commitments, and it was just this one kid who decided to break their commitment, I am skeptical they would really take that out on future kids.
OK, thanks all. Good to get a gut check. Will move along with no further action.
My daughter wanted something from one school that she actually really disliked. I think she just liked the color. 
The one school she didn’t want anything from was Yale. I couldn’t believe it. She wasn’t going to apply we were just in the area and wanted to see it. You can bet I got something though. As a Gilmore Girl fan I couldn’t forgive myself for not getting a shirt.
S’s response to sister when she bought swag from her college a few years ago - “Arent you already giving them enough money?”
My thoughts:
Because of the conversation about portals and decisions, I asked D24 if she would want me to open her decision if she was out and too busy.
She looked at me like I was crazy and said that she would never be too busy to look.
After thinking about it a second, she did concede that she might turn off her notifications if the decision might be coming in at an inopportune time.
D24’s ED school emailed her late last week saying they still hadn’t received her semester 1 senior grades. As her school is on a trimester schedule, this is no surprise, as the trimester just ended. D24 reached out to her (school assigned) college counselor last week, to make sure everything was set, and he said grades would be submitted 11/21. However, the final submission deadline is today, and as of right now, the portal still shows semester 1 grades as missing. ED school and college counselor are now on break (counselor said don’t even bother emailing him this week bcs he’s out of the office)…do we assume grades have been submitted and just haven’t been updated?? Should D24 email ED admissions office so they know she’s on top of it or let it go? She is worried if she emails, she will come off as pushy, but if she doesn’t email, she’ll come off as disinterested.
Probably it is just a gap of time before the portal is updated.
But unless I misunderstood something, there is no point trying to contact the ED school today anyway, since they are on break.
So if something went wrong, you will have to get it corrected once the ED school is back.
I second this and I also know that quite a few kids are not doing the right thing with ED/EA rules.
I knew a kid who got into Williams thru ED, but she didn’t withdraw her application from MIT EA which she was accepted too. I think if it wasn’t for all sns posting about MIT acceptance, she might’ve went to MIT instead fo Williams.
Me neither. I’ve never even seen their apps (any of my three).
Definitely no way to fix it right now, but the thought process for emailing the ED school today, despite being on break, is to show that she was on top of it, in case the college counselor was not. But I think we are just going assume the college counseling office has it under control, and hope that on Monday her portal will show as complete.
At small private schools when the college counselors are not overworked, it is a common practice for the high school senior applying ED to bring their laptop to the college counselor so that he/she can witness the ED applicant’s outstanding applications to make sure that there is no gaming the system. Likewise, when an ED applicant is accepted, the college counselor witnesses the applicant withdrawing the remaining regular decision or EA applications.This practice protects the school because if applicants from a specific high school show a pattern of not following the ED rules, that college will remember and not take applicants from the following year. This practice protects the fellow classmates who might be applying to similar colleges. Perhaps the counselor would be able to review everyone’s laptop to make sure that no-one is gaming the system because that is NOT fair.
My two cents is I am sure that is fine, meaning in the event you do have to reach out on Monday, that will evidence more than enough diligence.
I strongly believe that is the correct position in this and most things in this arena. Especially because you are basing it on “my kids have heard about”. Definitely not worth an accusation, even an anonymous one, and it very well could backfire and look like you are snitching for some kind of advantage for your own kid (even if it isn’t the reason).
D24 unexpectedly got her first acceptance! It is a safety, but one that she would be very happy to attend. We did not realize they send out EA decisions on a rolling basis when she applied, and are so excited to have this early acceptance! Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
Agree.
I realize this is a different situation but thought posters might find this worthwhile.
Last summer my son and I attended a college admissions seminar which featured a few admissions directors from competitive LACs, and one of the trends they talked about was having parents and kids contact admissions offices to complain or tattle on other applicants. The admissions officers said that they had to look into every complaint but that it often didn’t reflect well on the complaining party.
The counselors know where you apply based on where all your info is being sent. For ED, the counselor also has to sign the ED form.
There is no way the counselor knows if you withdraw your apps after an ED acceptance and I think everyone hopes the student and family are honest.
At our small independent school, the counselor did remind our kids (both had ED acceptances) to withdraw their EA and State school apps. They did and each received a note from the EA school admissions rep thanking them for withdrawing and congratulating them on their ED acceptance. Did not hear anything from our huge State school.
Last year a student at their school committed to their ED Ivy school where one of my kids attends (posted immediately all over social media) and “forgot” to
withdraw an app to another equally wishlist school - guess what - a few months later they got in to school B and announced on social media that they were now attending school B with the parent saying they had a change in financial circumstances. Not believable and not a great reflection on this family, upset kids that didn’t get into school A or B and anger all around. I am sure the administration of my kids former HS are disappointed and really left the tight community disappointed too.
Even though it is a small independent schools, the counselors are still working long hours and I don’t think anyone believes they have a lot of extra time - at one point you have to trust people to do the right thing.
I tried to be clear in my post that I never considered talking about or reporting the individual kid. The idea was to tell the counselor that all kids with ED applications might need a reminder of the rules governing ED. That’s it.
And as I made clear in my subsequent post, I’m not planning to do even that. So I think we can call this matter settled.
He should email his ED admission office as soon as possible asking for extension to send the grades.