Penn CAS Apps & Selectivity?

<p>@ muerteapablo:</p>

<p>You’re reaching and you know it. Pathetic effort!</p>

<p>“Columbia accepts 46% of its class ED, very close to Penn’s number. Are they also trying to inflate their yield?”</p>

<p>This is the best you can do? Because Columbia does it too? <em>yawn</em></p>

<p>slipper - Of course the admissions head would say something like that in an alumni magazine. Given Dartmouth’s distinctiveness and its yield over the years in RD, the ad comm probably concluded that the school can afford to take this stance on admissions. If D was losing too many good students in the RD round, it would adjust its position accordingly.</p>

<p>Are you kidding me? Stanford games its yield by depending totally on Californians to dredge up its application numbers.</p>

<p>Stanford is disgustingly reliant on California to fill its freshman class every year - nearly 40% is from that state. That is truly ridiculous. If it had any serious competition on the West Coast (Caltech is only 200 kids/year) - like the Ivies and MIT have in each other the Northeast - its numbers would be significantly altered.</p>

<p>That’s why Stanford’s appeal is so provincial, not nearly as global as HYP - and why it loses comparatively many more applicants to schools like Penn, Columbia, Brown, and Dartmouth.</p>

<p>Stanford is essentially a state school for smart people.</p>

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<p>guys stop feeding the ■■■■■, seriously</p>

<p>Sorry, I can’t resist a good thrashing.</p>

<p>Can I admit that I would have chosen Stanford, if I had gotten in, over Wharton, where I will be going next year?</p>

<p>But yeah, shouldn’t the mods do something about ■■■■■■??</p>

<p>wow, mp, easy there…</p>

<p>There are 3 generations of Quakers in my immediate family, hoping for the 4th – but your characterization of Stanford is off the mark. Do you think that the population size of Californian might have a little something to do with the enrollment of people from there at Stanford? Besides – before the current budgetary crisis, Californians had some very good, and affordable alternatives to Stanford, in Cal and UCLA.</p>

<p>Cal and UCLA are equivalent to Stanford in terms of graduate offerings, but definitely not undergraduate. Stanford is the only school of significant enrollment (Caltech has only 200/year) on the West Coast that matches the selectivity or prestige of the Ivy League.</p>

<p>@ muerteapablo:</p>

<p>No hard feelings. My criticisms of Penn were genuine, but I probably crossed the line.</p>

<p>@mp</p>

<p>Nobody has said that Cal and UCLA were equivalent to Stanford. And you were the one arguing against the selectivity and prestige of Stanford.</p>

<p>I took issue with your inaccurate portrayal of Stanford as

So I don’t understand your post on the UCs. Truth of the matter is, that Stanford is a world class institution and as much as I love Penn, I do not believe Stanford is an inferior school or that it loses many admitted students to Penn.</p>

<p>Stanford has an edge on Penn in just about everything, except for</p>

<p>-earthquake avoidance
-snowball fights
-awesomeness that makes ilovebagels choose it over stanford</p>

<p>I also feel that what some poeple say about Stanford is true (no, not “9 out of 10 girls in california are beautiful, and the 10th goes to stanford”) but that they are like ducks in a pond…looking very serene and chill on the surface, but paddling furiously to keep afloat.</p>

<p>At least at Penn, everyone was upfront about being a hard-working SOB ;)</p>

<p>lol, come on guys… you can spin it however you want, but at the end of the day Stanford is a more desirable school than Penn. let’s be real here. </p>

<p>Penn’s peer schools are more along the lines of “Columbia/Chicago/Dartmouth,” not “HYPSM.”</p>

<p>ilovebagels, did you actually choose Stanford over Penn? wow… interesting.</p>

<p>Obviously Stanford is more desirable than Penn. I’m not trying to misrepresent things.</p>

<p>I do not, however, think that Stanford is the bastion of righteous admissions that nyccard seems to think it is, and in many ways it reflects the same admissions standards as Penn.</p>

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<p>I think you mean “choose Penn over Stanford,” and yes (as a double-legacy with near-perfect scores and not from California, it’s not quite as hard to get in). And I definitely made the right decision :)</p>

<p>How much harder is it to get into stanford from cali?</p>

<p>Well, there you go, nyccard. ilovebagels chose Penn over Stanford. Obviously the divide isn’t as clear-cut as you think it is.</p>

<p>How do you like them apples?</p>

<p>I can certainly understand why someone would consider Penn more desirable than Stanford. Have you spent time at both schools? They present completely different lifestyles and day-to-day experiences. Both are great schools, so the decision should be based on how one wants to spend the next four years. My younger son (who attends a high school that feeds Stanford) would pick Penn over Stanford any day of the week (although Columbia is his ultimate favorite).</p>

<p>Penn > than all. Fact of life.</p>