<p>HAHAHAHA come on you little guy! a LOL? is that everything?!?! You are so incredibly lame, Penn is above cornell in every general ranking out there!! Are you inventing things again? oh, I forgot you always invent! Loser</p>
<p>Please, greenexcess. You’re liable to start a flame war.</p>
<p>Gugupo only sees selectivity in terms of acceptance rate, which is presumably why he hilariously labeled Penn and Swarthmore as comparable, “excellent” schools while simultaneously denigrating Penn students as “■■■■■■■.”</p>
<p>Brown and Dartmouth are not less rigorous than the other Ivies. If anything because of the undergraduate focus they might require more work. Who cares about grad school ranks, it doesn’t matter. I think some people in CC just don’t get this. Look at any placement study or elite grad school makeup, those two are always close to HYP level. Anyway my point is that any ivy is going to be about the same in this area.</p>
<p>Jamaica- as a pre-med at an Ivy (with lots of friends doing pre-med at other Ivies) it WON’T MATTER. Med school isn’t one of those areas where the grad school has a huge impact. My brother’s friends at Dartmouth all went to top 10 med schools (places like Harvard and Penn) and talking to some of them at his wedding it seemed like the undergrad focus and doing things like a thesis was what interviewers cared the most about (outside of GPA and MCAT). Going to a big research university won’t make a difference.</p>
<p>muertrapablo</p>
<p>Although you are correct that if you average all scores Penn is above Harvard, Yale, Princeton, this is a very strange thing to do. Penn had more programs ranked.
It really would be more appropriate to compare averages of nonzero scores.
In this type of a ranking a zero score indicates that the university was not ranked in that area.
If you look at the average of non zero scores it does give you an idea of which schools are really strong as research institutions. Penn at 14 seems about right and I should say that 14 is actually very good. Note for example where Duke, Johns Hopkins and Carnegie Mellon are , all very strong institutions.</p>
<p>According to Businessweek, Cornell’s undergrad business program is as selective as Wharton</p>
<p>And according to U.S. News (the one actually taken seriously)?</p>
<p>According to US News Wharton MBA is #5, which is worse than Northwestern.
And it is taken very seriously by Penn (Wharton) students.
Northwestern is better than Wharton.</p>
<p>Oh really, and according to U.S. News what’s the undergraduate business ranking?</p>
<p>Easy now. New rankings come out in august, then you can have your little flame war.</p>
<p>Ha ha Do you know which univeristy has the best hotel management program in the world ?</p>
<p>And you know who keeps avoiding questions that refute every single one of his theories?</p>
<p>Gugupo, you are a loser dude, get a life. Seriously</p>
<p>Gugupo - You’re embarrassing those of us affiliated with Cornell. I don’t know if you’re a student or hopeful student or alumni or what, but please just stop. </p>
<p>You’ve hijacked multiple threads in your attempt to denigrate Penn, and it’s a losing battle. Muertopablo learned her lesson the hard way when she first transferred to Penn and went on a blind rampage against Cornell because it wasn’t the right fit for her. It got ugly. </p>
<p>If someone can honestly say Penn provides a universally better education than Brown, or Harvard a universally better education than Penn, then those people do not understand the real world and are lost in a sea of charts. </p>
<p>The type of student and the field are far stronger barometers. As such, the OP isn’t studying business or hotel management, so don’t bring them up. Irrelevant.</p>