MYOS1634, I’ve puzzled over that myself. Two kids 12 years,such bad schools…I’d move! Living in a hovel in a good district would trump living in a decent house/apartment in a bad district, for me. But everyone is different regarding these sorts of things.
^Agreed 100%.
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For engineering, you really have few/no choices other than your instate schools with your stats and your financial situation.
Your parents are likely firm since they’ve already set the pattern with not paying for older brother. Even if they were to help a bit, I don’t see them rationalizing helping more than a very small amount…otherwise they’d be on the hook to help brother as well.
I suspect that your parents are wanting to recover from paying for your high school in a state with very high taxes. They probably need to turn their focus on funding retirement and perhaps paying for home-needs that have been ignored while funding private high school tuitions for you and sibling.
Penn State is out. no way is that affordable.
Seriously, everyone in NJ isn’t going to Rutgers, main campus. That state has too many other good univs. A degree from Rutgers will carry you thru.
** The rest of the country highly respects Rutgers even though somehow a bunch of 17 year olds from NJ does not.**
If you retest and get much better scores, then maybe Mississippi State would be affordable …it’s has big Div I sports and good merit with late app dates. Have you tried the ACT?
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Who knows how bad it really is. The state of NJ pays a LOT per student. The parents just may believe that a private is much better. I’m know that our local schools in Calif and AL were fine (judging by the high NMFs each reported), but I don’t like public K-12 schools, so my kids went to private.
Wow, Penn State would cost you almost 4 times the $12,000 of Rutgers!
Rutgers costs about $23,000 instate right? what did the NPC list for aid? scholarship, grant?
Going back to http://automaticfulltuition.yolasite.com/ , seems like the only obviously cheaper option would be the automatic full ride scholarship at Prairie View A&M, if the deadline has not passed (full tuition scholarships would probably result in a similar net price as Rutgers). There are some competitive full rides at http://competitivefulltuition.yolasite.com/ , but those are probably reaches for the scholarships.
In reply #14, the OP said that Rutgers’ NPC said $12,284.
@mom2collegekids I wouldn’t say that the rest of the country “highly” respects Rutgers. It’s respected, but not “highly” respected. However, Rutgers is one of the only NJ schools (along with Princeton, TCNJ, Stevens, and Rowan) even worth attending at all. OP would be much better served going to Rutgers than attending Mississippi State for sure.
As a matter of fact: OP, why don’t you look at Rowan? Public, low cost, great engineering program, rising school overall. It’s a great deal.
And Rutgers beats Prairie View, a university where most students score between 16 and 18 on the ACT (790-970 SAT CR+M).
With the student’s current stats, along with eng’g major and “school spirit” interests, schools like Prairie View will not likely work.
I agree that attending Prairie View, with its much weaker student body, doesn’t make much sense.
If the other instate publics have eng’g and “school spirit” then consider those as well. But for now, it appears that RU is the best school.
And yes, Rutgers is well-respected across this country. As someone who worked for two major aerospace companies in Calif, I know that’s true. Nobody thinks, “oh, it’s just Rutgers.” That’s a 17/18 year old mindset.
What companies have you worked for @LBad96 ?
And Rutgers and NJIT have better student stats than Rowan.
@mommdc BUT…NJIT ranks last of them in terms of school spirit/social scene. NJIT is also criticized for the quality of its professors. https://m.reddit.com/r/NJTech/comments/3jkwgt/the_bad_professor_epidemic_of_njit/
I would rate Rowan higher than NJIT any day of the week (although NJIT is respectable)
Rowan is currently divided between engineering and education (very good) and everything else (not so good). In terms of environment, Glassboro is better than Newark. Both are good choices for students who don’t like Rutgers&TCNJ, or didn’t get in.
Where do you come up with this stuff? Mississippi State has a perfectly respectable engineering program. If Mississippi State is cheaper for him than Rutgers AND he wants to try going to school in another part of the country, it’s a fine option. I certainly wouldn’t go there without visiting and seeing what it’s like for OOS students, but it might be worth considering.
Rutgers engineering is better, and Rutgers is a better school overall than Mississippi State. There are other southern engineering schools he can go to without having to step foot in Mississippi.
I guess social scene and school spirit is the main criteria for an engineering school?
This student is limited by finances. Whether there are “better” schools that will accept him is meaningless. His issue isn’t finding schools that will accept him, a number will accept him. The issue will be affording those schools.
I don’t understand this “better engineering program schools” does this mean if he gets accepted to UAF ( University of at Fairbanks) he won’t get a good job?
@NASA2014 not as good as he would from Rutgers.
@LBad96, you have exactly zero facts to back up that kind of statement. ^^^
Please stop. You are not an engineer, are not studying engineering, and have no direct experience with the hiring practices of engineering employers.
As long as a student graduates from an ABET-accredited program, has a decent (~3.0) GPA, has internship or co-op experience, and is willing to relocate if necessary, there is no reason to pay a significant premium (or assume a lot of debt!) for a higher ranked school.
Biomedical engineering, which the OP is interested in, usually requires graduate level work, but one can get there by earning a degree in other, more general, engineering disciplines.
It’s harder to find since the site was updated in 2014, but CC has a terrific Engineering Major forum, where questions like this can be addressed by practicing engineers and academics. I suggest students and parents go there for honest, clear-headed advice, which engineers are great at offering!