<p>Quote:“This is absolutely not true.”</p>
<p>I have been certified through the Tennessee Association of Christian Schools, Florida Association of Christian Colleges and Schools, and Association of Christian Schools International. These all require certain courses that are not available at a public school (Ex: Bible Doctrines, Philosophy of Education from a Christian Perspective, etc.). If you graduate from a secular institution, in order to be certified, you will take these courses.</p>
<p>If you would like to get an accurate account, you may contact PCC. I asked PCC to send me the names of schools that have accepted their pre-Pharmacy students into graduate school. I received a list several pages long, that included many well-known Universities from around the nation. Keep in mind, that, for example, a student who wants to earn their Ph.D in Pharmacy, has to take a national PCAT entrance exam. Schools look at that score, along with the student’s GPA. If the scores are high enough, the student is admitted. Believe what you choose, but I know hundreds of PCC grads who went on to earn their MAs, MSs, and PH.Ds from Universities around the nation. You are simply misinformed.</p>
<p>This looks like a fun discussion.</p>
<p>PCC has awesome summer camp programs. Two weeks to lie in the dorms, eat the food, swim, ice skate, bowl, rock climb, etc., for a fairly reasonable price. The end result had me certain that I would definitely keep friends who went there so I could get in to take advantage of all the fun, but would never be enrolled as a student - no way in h*ll.</p>
<p>I have some friends that go there (but can’t take advantage of it because I moved), and they love it. It takes a certain kind of person, one that doesn’t mind being treated like a child by authoritarian parents. Being 18-24 is the ideal time to make mistakes. In the journey to growing wiser, one MUST make mistakes. Being imperfect is what eventually makes one wise. But PCC has never claimed to encourage wisdom. There is a big difference between wisdom and education.</p>
<p>I chose against PCC because I want the freedom to date once I’m ready, go see films at my discretion, and maybe even have a glass of wine every now and then. How can Christians expect to influence those around them if they are confined? PCC, IMHO, misses the point of being in the world, not of the world.</p>
<p>If I am trusting a school with my money, education, and future, I want them to trust me.</p>
<p>Brielle says “Being 18-24 is the ideal time to make mistakes. In the journey to growing wiser, one MUST make mistakes. Being imperfect is what eventually makes one wise. But PCC has never claimed to encourage wisdom.”</p>
<p>I read your post and the statement came to mind “When I was a child I spake as a child…” An ideal time to make mistakes ? Yea, I know a few girls who “made mistakes” and have a child to care for as a result. I’ve known those to “make mistakes” and get behind the wheel of a car after drinking too much. We bury them - or their victims. I could go on, but will not waste my time. Please speak for yourself only when saying how one must make mistakes in order to grow wiser. I would suggest real maturity would come when one learns from the mistakes of others. Perhaps you will discover this in a few years - after you’ve made mistakes - and learned the hard way.</p>
<p>@PCCGrad: Please only speak for yourself. You have not walked in my shoes, and I would never wish it on you. PCC prohibits going to a tanning bed - that has nothing to do with drunk driving or premarital sex.</p>
<p>In general, the “child” of Biblical days was grown up around 13 years of age… ;)</p>
<p>Creekland - Childhood today seems to extend much farther. Brielle - Please choose your college based on tanning bed policy. You have not walked in the shoes of many, yet you suggest that PCC students don’t mind “being treated like a child.” Speaking for myself - I did not have to make mistakes to grow wiser. I was able to see the consequences of others who made mistakes and learn from them. But by all means, you go on and make your mistakes.</p>
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<p>I don’t think humans are any different now than 2000+ years ago. I think adults treat children differently - sometimes for better and sometimes not - but human beings then were essentially the same now IMO. My guys have all been quite mature by the time they’ve left for college (18). They’ve done well in college and I’m proud of many of the decisions they’ve made.</p>
<p>We all make mistakes - and learn from them - but not all make the kind of mistakes “rules” try to protect them from. Many students simply don’t need - or want - the imposed rules. If others do need - or want - them they can choose their college accordingly.</p>
<p>I agree with the idea that some do not want or need certain rules. I disagree with the suggestion that those who put themselves under rules “don’t mind being treated like a child.” That is a snide remark about students at PCC - or any college with strict rules - that should not go unchallenged. My son is quite mature also, and loves it at PCC. I asked him if he thought I was being “harsh” to Brielle. His response “she deserves it.”</p>
<p>As far as humans being different - or maturing at a different rate: I was at the National WWII Museum in New Orleans a few weeks back with one of my classes. We were talking with a veteran who parachuted into France the night before the D-Day invasion of Normandy. He was 19 at the time. I made the suggestion that an experience like that would cause one to have to grow up quickly. He suggested that young people as a whole grew up much quicker back then. They were more responsible - more mature at 18 than most young people today are at a later age. I tend to agree.</p>
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<p>It all depends upon how they were raised. My kids (all three of them) were doing things at a far younger age than many parents allow. We treated them like the young adults they were, complete with responsibilities. We have no regrets.</p>
<p>There are still many youngsters heading into war at age 19. Some of them do have to grow up quickly. How quickly most mature depends upon expectations and responsibilities.</p>
<p>It’s some parents who have extended childhood - their kids would likely have done fine without it (a few cases being exceptions).</p>
<p>It DOES depend on how they were raised. However, many young people today that I know have few if any responsibilities. Their greatest challenge is to do their homework and get to school on time. </p>
<p>I will disagree with you on your last sentence. I do not believe that kids will naturally “turn out fine.” Perhaps I am misreading your argument. Are you suggesting that having rules is “extending childhood” ?</p>
<p>Brielle - I just read through the PCC student handbook. I find no mention of tanning beds. Perhaps you would be kind enough to reference the rule concerning the prohibition of the use of tanning beds ?</p>
<p>I didn’t see anything about tanning beds, either, but anybody considering PCC should read the guidebook: [Pathway</a> to College Success :: Pensacola Christian College](<a href=“http://www.pcci.edu/Pathway/]Pathway”>http://www.pcci.edu/Pathway/)
This really is a college with unusually strict rules, some of which would be quite restrictive even for people already leading a pretty conservative Christian lifestyle. For example, earphones are prohibited on campus, as a means of preventing unapproved music from being consumed. Many, many things have to be approved by college authorities in advance. It is certainly not for everybody.</p>
<p>Hunt - I totally agree. It is not for everybody. But for those who love and appreciate PCC, we get a bit tired of people constantly being critical. I have never posted a single derogatory statement about any school. Yet there are those who spew misinformation regularly about PCC on this and other websites.
Many students appreciate the environment of PCC. It saddens me to see how many people attack the institution who have no intention of going there. I suppose their intent is to discourage others from attending.</p>
<p>PCCgrad - I think a combo of few (true) responsibilities from a young age and a continuation of needless rules (in high schools and at home) both extend childhood. The responsibilities tend to lead to maturity which leads to not needing the rules for most. </p>
<p>My exceptions are for those not mentally/physically capable of living an independent life.</p>
<p>I criticize lots of schools, including some I really like. But PCC is really an outlier, especially in terms of its student life rules, and there are some things prospective students should understand. This is no different from undertanding Greek life at other colleges, for example.</p>
<p>^^^ And I give pros and cons of many schools and let students decide what is or isn’t important to them. PCC is an outlier (even among Christian colleges) both in its rules and in not being accredited for many of its majors.</p>
<p>Creekland - You are aware that PCC is being accredited through Transnational. (Now, I know that some will not agree with that association. Don’t care.) Yes - we are an “outlier” - but you use that as a negative. Some see that as a positive. To each his own. OK ? You can give pros and cons - but don’t be a tool to spread lies. Don’t believe every post.</p>
<p>PCCgrad, we all get defensive when our alma mater is criticized, but don’t overdo it. Nobody’s spreading lies about PCC–indeed, the truth is off-putting enough for the vast majority of potential college students. Perhaps you could explain to those who are interested what kind of student really fits well at PCC.</p>
<p>I have not spread any lies nor would I.</p>
<p>Those who see PCC’s outlier status as a positive will have no problem reading it that way in the same manner that many who like winter see “horrid winters” as a plus (or non-factor) with U Rochester. As with anything in life, one person’s trash is another person’s treasure (and it doesn’t matter which school one is talking about with either adjective).</p>