<p>I have a BS in engineering (not PE) and would like to do a master in PE to get into the field. Currently, i have two admissions from U of Tulsa and ULL. So..</p>
<p>which one do you think is better in quality, intenship and job recruiting?</p>
<p>And which area, among drilling, production, reservoir, should be chosen in terms of job prospect? </p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>there’s no money in this field anymore, so go to the IB section. good luck</p>
<p>“there’s no money in this field anymore, so go to the IB section. good luck”</p>
<p>could u explain why u think so? and what is IB section? thanks</p>
<p>Mayerster,</p>
<p>I am in the same boat, and not sure of where to go ? When did you hear from ULL ? Any funding ?</p>
<p>Can anyone please shed some light on Mayerster’s questions ? It’s decision time and we need your help.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Our petroleum engineering jobs have been vaporized. My buddies along with myself are up **** creek without a paddle at the moment. Everything from chemical, mechanical, electrical, and petroleum job offers in oil went from plentiful to scarce. My fathers work time has been cut. Many of the other engineers we know are out of work for atleast the next 2 months. This is on land and coastal drilling by the way. The only jobs right now are for PhD guys who want to do deep water exploration with 20 plus years of exp. Thank you democrats for electing the man who basically said,“I’m going to rip the oil companies a new ass hole”. Amen. Oh, did you here about his plan to enforce a fine for companies who do not meet carbon emission standards. It will increase every year for the company’s until it will be more economical for them to convert to green energy. Oh yeah, may I mention the smell of mergers is in the air. All the perks of electing a democrat. Oh, he hasn’t even unleashed his tax plan yet. It will be a sad 4 years, a nightmare if he is relected again. By that time I’ll be finding work in geo thermal, or some other nonsense. Oh yeah, let me also mention that our universities budgets are going to be cut substantially, smaller schools have already laid off a significant number of professors. Put it this way, for Louisiana, if oil isn’t around 80 dollars a barrel our state budget is in the negative. Currently, the LSU board of supervisiors is fighting the board to withdraw the 70 million or so they want to rip away from our budget. Which would literally be devistating. Oh, but you won’t here anything like that on CNN, it is all peace and love with them. Texas is even more ****ed. When the governor of texas is throwing around succeeding from the union like you throw around a ball to your dog, yeah, things aren’t going so well for us down here at this time.</p>
<p>wait till the new salary reports come out for the college of engineering majors, oh joy. Can’t wait to see salaries bottom out. I hope you voted for the right person, if you voted democrat and you want a career in anything oil related, you are a perpetual dumb ass.</p>
<p>foreverlsu
is that jus for the petroleum jobs or the service companies too?</p>
<p>i assume if one is hit the other one suffers as well but i mean to the extent that you have described for straight up petroleum jobs</p>
<p>What you think? Jobs in everything to do with oil have been vaporized, there is nothing, like I said, drilling engineers are looking for work. The only ones making it are the big companies like chevron, shell, BP, exxon, but the thier internships and job offers have vaporized. It went from so many jobs you couldn’t even fill them all, to nothing, pssffff. Oh joy.</p>
<p>“When the governor of texas is throwing around succeeding from the union like you throw around a ball to your dog, yeah, things aren’t going so well for us down here at this time.”</p>
<p>lol…seriously? typical bitter southerner who still can’t get over the fact that they lost the war lol. </p>
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<p>“The only jobs right now are for PhD guys who want to do deep water exploration with 20 plus years of exp.”</p>
<p>Oh by the way, I know at least 8 people interning at shell this summer from Michigan Engineering, and a lot more at the typical big names. They are still recruiting all the way from the midwest. BP and Conoco both posted internship and co-op listings and did on campus interviews at our engineering career center in the last 2 months. Think about it. If hiring is this bad, why would they take the trouble to come all the way to the midwest?
Not to mention 5 of my friends here from engineering are starting full time in oil companies in Houston. This is just counting people I know. And this is from a school all the way in the midwest</p>
<p>The petroleum industry is very cyclical, take a look what happened in the 80’s. I graduate in a week from Texas Tech and will begin working for Halliburton in Midland Texas this summer. When I interviewed they said there is a very large age gap currently in the industry with a large amount of employees approaching retirement which means future positions to fill. It will get better, oil is always going to be a valuable commodity, and it a great industry to get into. Once oil stabilizes back to around 60-80$ and the entire economy rebounds everyone will try to get back on this ship. I know Tulsa is doing good graduate research right now and that would be a good option, I do not know much about ULL.</p>
<p>To my old friend, Forever LSU, hang in there. Went through this back in the early eighties as newlyweds. Like many southern jobs, it’s feast or famine. Those who buy expensive houses and cars during the feast will be sweating it for a few years, but just hang in there. It may take eight years, but the cycle will come around again.</p>
<p>Yet another reason to get some addition skills/courses under your belt. If you haven’t taken any computer classes yet, do it now. Any type of programming, no matter how obsolete it will seem, C, Java, Fortran, heck, even Cobalt. If you can fit it in your schedule and doesn’t cost you extra in tuition, do it. You can always go to a temp staffing company and pick up hourly work that will pay better than flipping burgers at Mickie D’s, although not by much, but heck, it will put food on the table.</p>
<p>As for dems and reps, remember, it is our dear rep governor that is putting all these budget cuts on higher education, which is really shocking, considering how educated he is. I’m really not very politically savvy to engage in meaningful colloquy on this subject, but as a parent, I for one am glad I didn’t put all my hopes on sending my kid to college with TOPS. While it was in danger of becoming a need only program, I’m afraid the whole thing is going to go away in a short order. I know Mr. Taylor had something to do with creating it, but I don’t know if the government has a hand in its funding or not. </p>
<p>Again, like I said, tighten your belts, hang in there, we go through this every 20 years or so.</p>
<p>My brother is an attorney over in Houston, and he’s feeling it big time over there as well, so it’s not just Louisiana that’s going to suffer, it’s all of us.</p>
<p>Interested to hear how Oklahoma is affected by all of this.</p>
<p>We’ll see how it is come the fall. Hopefully everything will pick up in the next 6 months. Yeah, houston, lol, shell wanted to stick me in houston, I turned that down, lol. Chevron was nice. Go with a company that actually wants to give you experience actually doing your job. Not attending meetings, lol. I wouldn’t live in a city, I’m not a city person, find it rather depressing. I can’t stand houston to begin with. Your friends can have every bit of that 5 o’clock traffic, hahaha.</p>
<p>Yeah, montegut, there is no telling what is going to happen with the carbon regulations obama will enact. That will all go away once we get a republician in office. If we ever get another one in. Which shouldn’t be to hard, wait untill he enacts his tax reforms, oh, that will put the last nail in the coffin.</p>
<p>During the oil crunch when we were newlyweds, husband was offered a transfer to Houston. I didn’t want to leave my grandparents. About eight years ago or so, lots of good friends transferred to Houston. Oh, well, at least they missed Katrina. With one of the big companies, Texaco, Chevron, Conoco, don’t remember, so many mergers. </p>
<p>Yes, son has same feeling about Houston. Had to live there for four months after Katrina. I think the traffic did him in, although it’s almost the same here in NO now. </p>
<p>Anyway, because of that, he won’t even look at a school in Texas, much less Houston. Which is really a shame, because I’ve wanted him to go to Rice ever since before he was born. </p>
<p>But back to the original poster, I have to comment on ULL, because Forever brought up a good point about city life. </p>
<p>Lafayette is a really nice small town/city. It has all the convenience of the city, but it has the beauty of the nature here in Louisiana that many of us city folks don’t get to see. The food is phenomenal. Must go to Pat’s. Unfortunately, Lafayette does have five o’clock traffic, but all towns here in LA do now since Katrina.</p>
<p>ULL is a little known gem down here. Many kids are now heading there rather than LSU. Absolutely fantastic computer engineering school, so if you do go there, pick up some computer courses while there.</p>
<p>Don’t know much about Tulsa, but son’s best friend’s dad, who graduated from Rice with a chem eng degree and works for an independent oil firm, started his career there, and they’re checking out Oklahoma schools, although son will major in mech eng, not a fan of chemistry. </p>
<p>Good luck to you on your endeavors, and now is probably a good time to stay in school and get an advanced degree in the oil business, and wait out this slump.</p>
<p>yeah, a lot of ULL grads are getting into MIT grad school and the likeness, pretty insane.</p>
<p>ULL: public, much less expensive than TU, much much larger, students mostly in state (96%), 68% admitted, commuter school, smaller city.
TU: private, much smaller, more diverse (50% out of state), D1 football, much better academically, more selective (46% admitted), residential campus, city/metro area two to three times as populated as Lafayette, LA city/metro area.</p>
<p>ULL is also a more tight knit school as compared to LSU. ULL you’ll meet your dean the first day, where as here, if you see the dean you must have been sent from god or you got into some serious CACA. I would say ULL does the better job of teaching and organizng the curriculum than LSU does. The LSU petroleum engineering department has an idiot for a coordinator, many a petroleum student has been mislead by him and has been forced to take an extra year because they didn’t take their classes in order. Here, certain classes fall in only one semester. So, if you don’t end up taking the right classes, you’ll have to wait a whole year before you can take it again. Which really can go bad if you a mislead. Also, ULL is not into the whole weed out process like LSU is. They actually want to teach you, where as here, they want to see how many people they can eliminate from the program. We’ve had guys that have transfered from LSU to ULL who said it was 10 times easier. They also have people who take certain courses outside of LSU at places like Southern University because some of our professor’s are horrible at teaching some courses. Petroleum Engineering isn’t really problem solving, it is more analysis and interpreting. The thing is if you are the type of person that learns from a book, or learns from doing example problems petrol eng. is not like that. It is important that you have a good teacher, because there aren’t any books to teach you. There is no book on reservoir or anything of the likeness. Everything you are tested on is based off of actual industry examples, actual well log diagrams, actual reservoir images. Also, the classes are all based off of audio listen as opposed to learning by seeing or doing. If you are not a good audio learner you will be trouble. Everything in petrol is theorectical, it is not concrete like a few of the other engineering disciplines. Petroleum engineers don’t make the highest engineering salaries for nothing. And only if you are good will you make above that of other engineers. You must also take into accout the lifestyle of working on rigs and in the middle of nowhere. It is becoming increasing hard to find suitable wells to drill. Also, petroleum engineering is the most stressful of the disciplines, they have people who have finished their petroleum degree who went work out in the field for a while, who came back and decided to major in something else. Put it this way, if you like geology, gambling, like not having a definite understanding of what is going to happen next, and having an irregular lifestyle that is away from home, then petroleum engineering is right for you. Many people work off shore for a while and dont’ want any more of it after. It doesn’t matter who your are, at some point you get tired of it. That is why many of the professor’s who teach in this field didn’t even spend 10 years in the field, they had seen enough, and wanted to get back to a normal lifestyle again.</p>
<p>Increasing difficulty of finding wells means increased difficulty of analyzing and interpreting the information retrieved from reservior analysis. It is by no means a walk in the park. You will never see a petroleum engineer listed as one of the least stressful careers like civil or mechanical engineering.</p>
<p>I’ve come across this thread kind of late and I’m just wondering did the industry ever pick back up.</p>
<p>I get the sense things have picked up ever so slightly - I know two people who graduated last year from UH and ULL who just got jobs within the last month. With that said Mr. Obama’s drilling moratorium is likely to reverse whatever little gains have been made.</p>